On 30 Jan 22, at 04:42, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

Mail bobbed up and wanted some extra security --- read it thought.... yeah ok -- bloody nuisance. Nothing in the email page - blank basically ..... you have to tell every single one to load from the web. I thought I had ticked the right box under security to reverse this and tell it not to do this --- but its still doing it - how does one resolve this ? Amny clues anyone ?


Thanks

Jude

On 1 Feb 2022, at 16:12, blue yonder via <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

I have just had something of a fraught two weeks on the Mac front! I have just purchased a ?refurb 27in Retina 5k 3.7 GHz – which I am very pleased with - certainly very fast!

?I had no trouble with Mail - but Micro$oft Office was a pain in the fundament cos it would not cross over. I got on to MS to get some help and got as far as unlicencing my old machine - but the given that I had not yet set up mail I was left with no email! Their ‘help’ as as much use as a chocolate fireguard!. I set up mail which is now working fine, but I haven ?filed MS under Foxtrot Oscar! Will never touch again and certainly not gonna pay a monthly fee.

?I wiped my old 27in 2013 machine and set up ready for use by the new owner and sent it off to Macback after getting a quote of just under 300 sons for my old machine. ?They then contacted me with a revised quote of ?17.00 and told me that the GPU was failed. This must have happened in transit although I was suspicious cos it was absolutely fine when it left here. Anyway they returned it no problem and indeed the GPU was dufff - so 300 squid down the Swannee….sigh.

Anyway new machine is fine so just have to put it down to ‘one of those things’. ?More p1ssed off with MS Office than anything else!

Mail was no problem at all (never had Jude’s problem) and I think I am better off with just Apple products. Have actually got Word working again no thanks to MS.?

On 1 Feb 2022, at 23:20, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Tag — if you had a proper registered Microsoft office on your old machine it should have come over if you did a “restore” from your old Mac to the new one - unless the old one was corrupted in some way.
Or ….If it was old version then the new Mac may have rejected it if not compatible with latest system.

I buy the "home and student version” in a box from Apple shop……. you get an empty box these days with a ‘key” so its a matter of download over the web (I make a copy so I don’t have to do it again and I have it on hand). Then all you do is insert the key and you are up and away. Easy. And it's price is modest for the value I get out of it. By the way I read in the new version coming for the Mac they have done away with the subscription 365.

As far as the subscription 365 — that has never been compulsory — I have never taken it on. When you installed from the boxed copy in the past it does ask you if you want that and yes it is a subscription — and even if you say no you can add it at a later date if you should require it - but in the next version that I understand it has been abandoned.

I can get into the 365 thing backdoor through my old hotmail address at least for parking files if I want :-)


We have been thinking about buying an electric vehicle — those up our valley who have already done so would be laughing with our petrol prices the way they are. But in order to do the miles we need to do in Australia we would have to go a bit higher end as regards battery capacity. I don’t know if the locals who have the Teslas are just running daily to the office — which would be around 70k to the city and back. Yes and the home recharge thing I had realised would be an extra cost.


Jude

On 1 Feb 2022, at 23:20, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Tag — if you had a proper registered Microsoft office on your old machine it should have come over if you did a “restore” from your old Mac to the new one - unless the old one was corrupted in some way.
Or ….If it was old version then the new Mac may have rejected it if not compatible with latest system.

I buy the "home and student version” in a box from Apple shop……. you get an empty box these days with a ‘key” so its a matter of download over the web (I make a copy so I don’t have to do it again and I have it on hand). Then all you do is insert the key and you are up and away. Easy. And it's price is modest for the value I get out of it. By the way I read in the new version coming for the Mac they have done away with the subscription 365.

As far as the subscription 365 — that has never been compulsory — I have never taken it on. When you installed from the boxed copy in the past it does ask you if you want that and yes it is a subscription — and even if you say no you can add it at a later date if you should require it - but in the next version that I understand it has been abandoned.

I can get into the 365 thing backdoor through my old hotmail address at least for parking files if I want :-)


We have been thinking about buying an electric vehicle — those up our valley who have already done so would be laughing with our petrol prices the way they are. But in order to do the miles we need to do in Australia we would have to go a bit higher end as regards battery capacity. I don’t know if the locals who have the Teslas are just running daily to the office — which would be around 70k to the city and back. Yes and the home recharge thing I had realised would be an extra cost.


Jude

On 2 Feb 2022, at 11:33, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Hotmail.com has become outlook.com — maybe you can do something with that ?

I love Office. I think its well worth the money myself. And I am older that you :-)

We’re both retired people but I still do a little work for people in all sorts of things on my Mac.

Frankly I have never expected any help from MS or actually ever sought any - only because I have never needed it.

You can of course look at things like Open Office or Libre office as alternatives. Like pages you need to export to Word if you are sending on to people who don’t have Pages etc.



Both of them have attractive presentation on screen I think..


Jude




On 2 Feb 2022, at 4:40 pm, blue yonder via groups.io <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

Yes - it was a fully registered copy Judith and so I expected it to transfer to my new machine and it didn’t do so with my legal registration. The ‘help’ I got from MS was worse than useless in that it just stopped me using it on my old machine as well. Luckily i retired when I hit 70, so with only about four article a year, I no longer get tax relief on purchases and therefore am perfectly happy with Pages and Mail.
The new machine did not reject Office - I just could not save any documents or get mail…..

Tag Gorton
Skype: tagorton

On 1 Feb 2022, at 23:20, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Tag — if you had a proper registered Microsoft office on your old machine it should have come over if you did a “restore” from your old Mac to the new one - unless the old one was corrupted in some way.
Or ….If it was old version then the new Mac may have rejected it if not compatible with latest system.

I buy the "home and student version” in a box from Apple shop……. you get an empty box these days with a ‘key” so its a matter of download over the web (I make a copy so I don’t have to do it again and I have it on hand). Then all you do is insert the key and you are up and away. Easy. And it's price is modest for the value I get out of it. By the way I read in the new version coming for the Mac they have done away with the subscription 365.

As far as the subscription 365 — that has never been compulsory — I have never taken it on. When you installed from the boxed copy in the past it does ask you if you want that and yes it is a subscription — and even if you say no you can add it at a later date if you should require it - but in the next version that I understand it has been abandoned.

I can get into the 365 thing backdoor through my old hotmail address at least for parking files if I want :-)


We have been thinking about buying an electric vehicle — those up our valley who have already done so would be laughing with our petrol prices the way they are. But in order to do the miles we need to do in Australia we would have to go a bit higher end as regards battery capacity. I don’t know if the locals who have the Teslas are just running daily to the office — which would be around 70k to the city and back. Yes and the home recharge thing I had realised would be an extra cost.


Jude

On 2 Feb 2022, at 10:36 pm, blue yonder via groups.io <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

?Older than me??’ I am now doing a racing start for 76 Judith!! Yeah I have open office and I can save in ‘office’ format so am not really concerned. ?

Tag Gorton
Skype: tagorton

On 2 Feb 2022, at 11:33, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Hotmail.com has become outlook.com — maybe you can do something with that ?

I love Office. I think its well worth the money myself. And I am older that you :-)

We’re both retired people but I still do a little work for people in all sorts of things on my Mac.

Frankly I have never expected any help from MS or actually ever sought any - only because I have never needed it.

You can of course look at things like Open Office or Libre office as alternatives. Like pages you need to export to Word if you are sending on to people who don’t have Pages etc.



Both of them have attractive presentation on screen I think..


Jude




On 2 Feb 2022, at 4:40 pm, blue yonder via groups.io <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

Yes - it was a fully registered copy Judith and so I expected it to transfer to my new machine and it didn’t do so with my legal registration. The ‘help’ I got from MS was worse than useless in that it just stopped me using it on my old machine as well. Luckily i retired when I hit 70, so with only about four article a year, I no longer get tax relief on purchases and therefore am perfectly happy with Pages and Mail.
The new machine did not reject Office - I just could not save any documents or get mail…..

Tag Gorton
Skype: tagorton

On 1 Feb 2022, at 23:20, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Tag — if you had a proper registered Microsoft office on your old machine it should have come over if you did a “restore” from your old Mac to the new one - unless the old one was corrupted in some way.
Or ….If it was old version then the new Mac may have rejected it if not compatible with latest system.

I buy the "home and student version” in a box from Apple shop……. you get an empty box these days with a ‘key” so its a matter of download over the web (I make a copy so I don’t have to do it again and I have it on hand). Then all you do is insert the key and you are up and away. Easy. And it's price is modest for the value I get out of it. By the way I read in the new version coming for the Mac they have done away with the subscription 365.

As far as the subscription 365 — that has never been compulsory — I have never taken it on. When you installed from the boxed copy in the past it does ask you if you want that and yes it is a subscription — and even if you say no you can add it at a later date if you should require it - but in the next version that I understand it has been abandoned.

I can get into the 365 thing backdoor through my old hotmail address at least for parking files if I want :-)


We have been thinking about buying an electric vehicle — those up our valley who have already done so would be laughing with our petrol prices the way they are. But in order to do the miles we need to do in Australia we would have to go a bit higher end as regards battery capacity. I don’t know if the locals who have the Teslas are just running daily to the office — which would be around 70k to the city and back. Yes and the home recharge thing I had realised would be an extra cost.


Jude

On 2 Feb 202212:55:01, at 12:55Wed, 2, Feb, 2022, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

It’s just a number:-) my paternal gran lived to 100, my Uncle Alf sunk twice in the battle of Jutland lived to 96. One cousin died Feb last year 92, and another Feb this year 95, my Yncle Bob went to 93 - My cousin Charlie currently is 92. My maternal GGmother went to 96 and she had about 12-13 kids and outlasted tw husbands. My mother went to 90. I’m hoping I inherited some of the genes :-)

Jude

On 2 Feb 2022, at 10:36 pm, blue yonder via groups.io <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

?Older than me??’ I am now doing a racing start for 76 Judith!! Yeah I have open office and I can save in ‘office’ format so am not really concerned. ?

Tag Gorton
Skype: tagorton

On 2 Feb 2022, at 11:33, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Hotmail.com has become outlook.com — maybe you can do something with that ?

I love Office. I think its well worth the money myself. And I am older that you :-)

We’re both retired people but I still do a little work for people in all sorts of things on my Mac.

Frankly I have never expected any help from MS or actually ever sought any - only because I have never needed it.

You can of course look at things like Open Office or Libre office as alternatives. Like pages you need to export to Word if you are sending on to people who don’t have Pages etc.



Both of them have attractive presentation on screen I think..


Jude




On 2 Feb 2022, at 4:40 pm, blue yonder via groups.io <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

Yes - it was a fully registered copy Judith and so I expected it to transfer to my new machine and it didn’t do so with my legal registration. The ‘help’ I got from MS was worse than useless in that it just stopped me using it on my old machine as well. Luckily i retired when I hit 70, so with only about four article a year, I no longer get tax relief on purchases and therefore am perfectly happy with Pages and Mail.
The new machine did not reject Office - I just could not save any documents or get mail…..

Tag Gorton
Skype: tagorton

On 1 Feb 2022, at 23:20, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Tag — if you had a proper registered Microsoft office on your old machine it should have come over if you did a “restore” from your old Mac to the new one - unless the old one was corrupted in some way.
Or ….If it was old version then the new Mac may have rejected it if not compatible with latest system.

I buy the "home and student version” in a box from Apple shop……. you get an empty box these days with a ‘key” so its a matter of download over the web (I make a copy so I don’t have to do it again and I have it on hand). Then all you do is insert the key and you are up and away. Easy. And it's price is modest for the value I get out of it. By the way I read in the new version coming for the Mac they have done away with the subscription 365.

As far as the subscription 365 — that has never been compulsory — I have never taken it on. When you installed from the boxed copy in the past it does ask you if you want that and yes it is a subscription — and even if you say no you can add it at a later date if you should require it - but in the next version that I understand it has been abandoned.

I can get into the 365 thing backdoor through my old hotmail address at least for parking files if I want :-)


We have been thinking about buying an electric vehicle — those up our valley who have already done so would be laughing with our petrol prices the way they are. But in order to do the miles we need to do in Australia we would have to go a bit higher end as regards battery capacity. I don’t know if the locals who have the Teslas are just running daily to the office — which would be around 70k to the city and back. Yes and the home recharge thing I had realised would be an extra cost.


Jude

On 3 Feb 2022, at 03:10, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Friend up the road turned 100 28th Nov - invited me to his party — he has much more Mac gear than me — iwatch latest, iPad Pro (not as big capacity as mine), iMac Pro, gave MacBook air to grandkid, bought new MacBook Pro, has latest phone - knows how to work the lot.
Writing his memoirs at the moment.


Jude

On 2 Feb 2022, at 11:29 pm, blue yonder via groups.io <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

Indeed. My buddy is hoping for 97. Shot in the back by a jealous husband!

On 2 Feb 202212:55:01, at 12:55Wed, 2, Feb, 2022, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

It’s just a number:-) my paternal gran lived to 100, my Uncle Alf sunk twice in the battle of Jutland lived to 96. One cousin died Feb last year 92, and another Feb this year 95, my Yncle Bob went to 93 - My cousin Charlie currently is 92. My maternal GGmother went to 96 and she had about 12-13 kids and outlasted tw husbands. My mother went to 90. I’m hoping I inherited some of the genes :-)

Jude

On 2 Feb 2022, at 10:36 pm, blue yonder via groups.io <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

?Older than me??’ I am now doing a racing start for 76 Judith!! Yeah I have open office and I can save in ‘office’ format so am not really concerned. ?

Tag Gorton
Skype: tagorton

On 2 Feb 2022, at 11:33, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Hotmail.com has become outlook.com — maybe you can do something with that ?

I love Office. I think its well worth the money myself. And I am older that you :-)

We’re both retired people but I still do a little work for people in all sorts of things on my Mac.

Frankly I have never expected any help from MS or actually ever sought any - only because I have never needed it.

You can of course look at things like Open Office or Libre office as alternatives. Like pages you need to export to Word if you are sending on to people who don’t have Pages etc.



Both of them have attractive presentation on screen I think..


Jude




On 2 Feb 2022, at 4:40 pm, blue yonder via groups.io <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

Yes - it was a fully registered copy Judith and so I expected it to transfer to my new machine and it didn’t do so with my legal registration. The ‘help’ I got from MS was worse than useless in that it just stopped me using it on my old machine as well. Luckily i retired when I hit 70, so with only about four article a year, I no longer get tax relief on purchases and therefore am perfectly happy with Pages and Mail.
The new machine did not reject Office - I just could not save any documents or get mail…..

Tag Gorton
Skype: tagorton

On 1 Feb 2022, at 23:20, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Tag — if you had a proper registered Microsoft office on your old machine it should have come over if you did a “restore” from your old Mac to the new one - unless the old one was corrupted in some way.
Or ….If it was old version then the new Mac may have rejected it if not compatible with latest system.

I buy the "home and student version” in a box from Apple shop……. you get an empty box these days with a ‘key” so its a matter of download over the web (I make a copy so I don’t have to do it again and I have it on hand). Then all you do is insert the key and you are up and away. Easy. And it's price is modest for the value I get out of it. By the way I read in the new version coming for the Mac they have done away with the subscription 365.

As far as the subscription 365 — that has never been compulsory — I have never taken it on. When you installed from the boxed copy in the past it does ask you if you want that and yes it is a subscription — and even if you say no you can add it at a later date if you should require it - but in the next version that I understand it has been abandoned.

I can get into the 365 thing backdoor through my old hotmail address at least for parking files if I want :-)


We have been thinking about buying an electric vehicle — those up our valley who have already done so would be laughing with our petrol prices the way they are. But in order to do the miles we need to do in Australia we would have to go a bit higher end as regards battery capacity. I don’t know if the locals who have the Teslas are just running daily to the office — which would be around 70k to the city and back. Yes and the home recharge thing I had realised would be an extra cost.


Jude

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On 2 Feb 2022, at 22:37, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

There are problems with that car - they are discontinuing it - I think I would reconsider that choice looking at what it’s problems are.

Jude

On 4 Feb 2022, at 1:50 am, zuiko <ftog@...> wrote:

?Jude

They’re discontinuing it because it’s been going for 9 years, I expect. There are certainly no problems with it from my research, and there are many many aficionados (not that that’s an indication of no problems, of course).

It’s blimmin’ expensive, but for me as ex-military it’s cheaper to buy new with the discount than to find a used one which is not much cheaper. And it goes like stink! (have I mentioned that?)

Chris

On 2 Feb 2022, at 22:37, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

There are problems with that car - they are discontinuing it - I think I would reconsider that choice looking at what it’s problems are.

Jude

On 3 Feb 2022, at 21:18, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

Google some more - steering problems and stops steering altogether I read.?
We’re debating electric but we drive more miles probably down here - when our Honda says we have 160left in the tank we’re thinking we should fill up :-)
Jude

On 4 Feb 2022, at 1:50 am, zuiko <ftog@...> wrote:

?Jude

They’re discontinuing it because it’s been going for 9 years, I expect. ?There are certainly no problems with it from my research, and there are many many aficionados (not that that’s an indication of no problems, of course).

It’s blimmin’ expensive, but for me as ex-military it’s cheaper to buy new with the discount than to find a used one which is not much cheaper. ?And it goes like stink! ?(have I mentioned that?)

Chris

On 2 Feb 2022, at 22:37, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

There are problems with that car - they are discontinuing it - I think I would reconsider that choice looking at what it’s problems are.

Jude

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On 2 Feb 2022, at 10:36 pm, blue yonder via groups.io <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

?Older than me??’ I am now doing a racing start for 76 Judith!! Yeah I have open office and I can save in ‘office’ format so am not really concerned. ?

Tag Gorton
Skype: tagorton

On 2 Feb 2022, at 11:33, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Hotmail.com has become outlook.com — maybe you can do something with that ?

I love Office. I think its well worth the money myself. And I am older that you :-)

We’re both retired people but I still do a little work for people in all sorts of things on my Mac.

Frankly I have never expected any help from MS or actually ever sought any - only because I have never needed it.

You can of course look at things like Open Office or Libre office as alternatives. Like pages you need to export to Word if you are sending on to people who don’t have Pages etc.



Both of them have attractive presentation on screen I think..


Jude




On 2 Feb 2022, at 4:40 pm, blue yonder via groups.io <tag.gorton@...> wrote:

Yes - it was a fully registered copy Judith and so I expected it to transfer to my new machine and it didn’t do so with my legal registration. The ‘help’ I got from MS was worse than useless in that it just stopped me using it on my old machine as well. Luckily i retired when I hit 70, so with only about four article a year, I no longer get tax relief on purchases and therefore am perfectly happy with Pages and Mail.
The new machine did not reject Office - I just could not save any documents or get mail…..

Tag Gorton
Skype: tagorton

On 1 Feb 2022, at 23:20, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

?Tag — if you had a proper registered Microsoft office on your old machine it should have come over if you did a “restore” from your old Mac to the new one - unless the old one was corrupted in some way.
Or ….If it was old version then the new Mac may have rejected it if not compatible with latest system.

I buy the "home and student version” in a box from Apple shop……. you get an empty box these days with a ‘key” so its a matter of download over the web (I make a copy so I don’t have to do it again and I have it on hand). Then all you do is insert the key and you are up and away. Easy. And it's price is modest for the value I get out of it. By the way I read in the new version coming for the Mac they have done away with the subscription 365.

As far as the subscription 365 — that has never been compulsory — I have never taken it on. When you installed from the boxed copy in the past it does ask you if you want that and yes it is a subscription — and even if you say no you can add it at a later date if you should require it - but in the next version that I understand it has been abandoned.

I can get into the 365 thing backdoor through my old hotmail address at least for parking files if I want :-)


We have been thinking about buying an electric vehicle — those up our valley who have already done so would be laughing with our petrol prices the way they are. But in order to do the miles we need to do in Australia we would have to go a bit higher end as regards battery capacity. I don’t know if the locals who have the Teslas are just running daily to the office — which would be around 70k to the city and back. Yes and the home recharge thing I had realised would be an extra cost.


Jude