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Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac.

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan


 

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Susan

That sounds pretty tricky! ?And I’m sorry that you have found incompatibilities, but I’ve started using Howard Oakley’s prolific bits of advice on ?when seemingly insoluble problems start.

My latest problem has been Spotlight, which seems less and less likely to find files when I need them. ?Likewise with Mail, in which Search is not as effective as once it was. ?It might be because of my proliferation of emails and accounts, but I do try to maintain order with Onyx and Rebuild Mailbox processes. ?Anyway, I hope that your home network is rescued.

And in answer to your question, no. ?We use iCloud mainly, but Sync is a useful adjunct, as is Day One for storing events and their corresponding files and scans, but we don’t have a network with a single Home drive.

Chris?

On 29 Sep 2022, at 13:49, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. ?After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. ?It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. ?Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! ?I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac. ?

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! ?Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan


 

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Thank you for all that, Chris. ?Harvey is in a hard place over this and it is a good thing he does not have a proper job to complicate matters; being on the local Parish Council does not quite count as “proper”! ?I’ve given him the ?URL and we’ll see if that helps. He has, after a quick look at the Networks section, decided he may well go back to static IP addresses, although Zen did say that letting DHCP decide them was the thing to do. He has threatened me with Dymo labels on my Macs!! ?Nooooooo!! ??

We don’t use iCloud; the nearest I’ve come to it is Airdrop for transferring photos from my iPhone XR. Photos from my little camera are moved over via a Ugreen USB-C Multifunction Card Reader. ?Harvey resents being asked to pay for iCloud, after iDisk was free. I have an old MacBook that our daughter gave us, running 10.5 I think, which still displays iDisk on its desktop - aww! I use it with the old software that works with our old scanner, so as to transfer documents to the Primary network drive that we can’t reach at present! ?/sigh! ?It also runs a little platform game called Io, created in India by a one man and a dog kind of setup. Fun, for a “bear of little brain”!
Best,
Susan
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On 29 Sep 2022, at 17:41, zuiko via <ftog@...> wrote:

Susan

That sounds pretty tricky! ?And I’m sorry that you have found incompatibilities, but I’ve started using Howard Oakley’s prolific bits of advice on ?when seemingly insoluble problems start.

My latest problem has been Spotlight, which seems less and less likely to find files when I need them. ?Likewise with Mail, in which Search is not as effective as once it was. ?It might be because of my proliferation of emails and accounts, but I do try to maintain order with Onyx and Rebuild Mailbox processes. ?Anyway, I hope that your home network is rescued.

And in answer to your question, no. ?We use iCloud mainly, but Sync is a useful adjunct, as is Day One for storing events and their corresponding files and scans, but we don’t have a network with a single Home drive.

Chris?

On 29 Sep 2022, at 13:49, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. ?After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. ?It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. ?Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! ?I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac. ?

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! ?Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan



 

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on older Macs Drop Copy works between Macs on network. ?I use the usual airdrop between the modern Macs but the old iMac I use DropCopy.
I don’t use iCloud at all except its backing up the new iPad Pro. My old Canon Digital Rebel long ago lost its software and I use one of those multi card readers to transfer photo to Mac.?

Jude




On 30 Sep 2022, at 11:14 pm, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Thank you for all that, Chris. ?Harvey is in a hard place over this and it is a good thing he does not have a proper job to complicate matters; being on the local Parish Council does not quite count as “proper”! ?I’ve given him the ?URL and we’ll see if that helps. He has, after a quick look at the Networks section, decided he may well go back to static IP addresses, although Zen did say that letting DHCP decide them was the thing to do. He has threatened me with Dymo labels on my Macs!! ?Nooooooo!! ??

We don’t use iCloud; the nearest I’ve come to it is Airdrop for transferring photos from my iPhone XR. Photos from my little camera are moved over via a Ugreen USB-C Multifunction Card Reader. ?Harvey resents being asked to pay for iCloud, after iDisk was free. I have an old MacBook that our daughter gave us, running 10.5 I think, which still displays iDisk on its desktop - aww! I use it with the old software that works with our old scanner, so as to transfer documents to the Primary network drive that we can’t reach at present! ?/sigh! ?It also runs a little platform game called Io, created in India by a one man and a dog kind of setup. Fun, for a “bear of little brain”!
Best,
Susan
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On 29 Sep 2022, at 17:41, zuiko via <ftog@...> wrote:

Susan

That sounds pretty tricky! ?And I’m sorry that you have found incompatibilities, but I’ve started using Howard Oakley’s prolific bits of advice on ?when seemingly insoluble problems start.

My latest problem has been Spotlight, which seems less and less likely to find files when I need them. ?Likewise with Mail, in which Search is not as effective as once it was. ?It might be because of my proliferation of emails and accounts, but I do try to maintain order with Onyx and Rebuild Mailbox processes. ?Anyway, I hope that your home network is rescued.

And in answer to your question, no. ?We use iCloud mainly, but Sync is a useful adjunct, as is Day One for storing events and their corresponding files and scans, but we don’t have a network with a single Home drive.

Chris?

On 29 Sep 2022, at 13:49, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. ?After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. ?It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. ?Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! ?I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac. ?

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! ?Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan




 

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I got spotlight to rescan the whole drive. Helped a little not much. Basically its not like how it used to be. Part of this I think is my own fault in that in some cases I have buried files too deep and I am in the process of getting them back to one or two max 3 levels.?


Jude




On 30 Sep 2022, at 2:41 am, zuiko via <ftog@...> wrote:

Susan

That sounds pretty tricky! ?And I’m sorry that you have found incompatibilities, but I’ve started using Howard Oakley’s prolific bits of advice on ?when seemingly insoluble problems start.

My latest problem has been Spotlight, which seems less and less likely to find files when I need them. ?Likewise with Mail, in which Search is not as effective as once it was. ?It might be because of my proliferation of emails and accounts, but I do try to maintain order with Onyx and Rebuild Mailbox processes. ?Anyway, I hope that your home network is rescued.

And in answer to your question, no. ?We use iCloud mainly, but Sync is a useful adjunct, as is Day One for storing events and their corresponding files and scans, but we don’t have a network with a single Home drive.

Chris?

On 29 Sep 2022, at 13:49, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. ?After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. ?It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. ?Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! ?I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac. ?

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! ?Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan



 

Have you tried accessing your modem via browser window and ascertaining what is on your network and which position it is on the network so you can address it ? Type in ….




Jude

On 29 Sep 2022, at 10:49 pm, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac.

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan


 

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It turned out - cross fingers - that there needed to be a cable connection to set the thing up to start with. Now, it seems to be functioning normally via wifi but, of course, we shall see! ?
Best
Susan


On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:41, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

I got spotlight to rescan the whole drive. Helped a little not much. Basically its not like how it used to be. Part of this I think is my own fault in that in some cases I have buried files too deep and I am in the process of getting them back to one or two max 3 levels.?


Jude




On 30 Sep 2022, at 2:41 am, zuiko via <ftog@...> wrote:

Susan

That sounds pretty tricky! ?And I’m sorry that you have found incompatibilities, but I’ve started using Howard Oakley’s prolific bits of advice on ?when seemingly insoluble problems start.

My latest problem has been Spotlight, which seems less and less likely to find files when I need them. ?Likewise with Mail, in which Search is not as effective as once it was. ?It might be because of my proliferation of emails and accounts, but I do try to maintain order with Onyx and Rebuild Mailbox processes. ?Anyway, I hope that your home network is rescued.

And in answer to your question, no. ?We use iCloud mainly, but Sync is a useful adjunct, as is Day One for storing events and their corresponding files and scans, but we don’t have a network with a single Home drive.

Chris?

On 29 Sep 2022, at 13:49, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. ?After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. ?It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. ?Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! ?I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac. ?

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! ?Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan




 

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Susan

I’ve found that a NAS needs a fixed IP address on the LAN to be reliable; DHCP can take a little while to re-allocate IPs sometimes, perhaps on older or mixed systems.

I hope that your cable connection works out, but Jude’s idea of checking what’s showing on your network map is a good one – except that my router is 192.168.0.1 . . .

Chris

On 1 Oct 2022, at 16:19, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

It turned out - cross fingers - that there needed to be a cable connection to set the thing up to start with. Now, it seems to be functioning normally via wifi but, of course, we shall see! ?
Best
Susan


On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:41, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

I got spotlight to rescan the whole drive. Helped a little not much. Basically its not like how it used to be. Part of this I think is my own fault in that in some cases I have buried files too deep and I am in the process of getting them back to one or two max 3 levels.?


Jude




On 30 Sep 2022, at 2:41 am, zuiko via <ftog@...> wrote:

Susan

That sounds pretty tricky! ?And I’m sorry that you have found incompatibilities, but I’ve started using Howard Oakley’s prolific bits of advice on ?when seemingly insoluble problems start.

My latest problem has been Spotlight, which seems less and less likely to find files when I need them. ?Likewise with Mail, in which Search is not as effective as once it was. ?It might be because of my proliferation of emails and accounts, but I do try to maintain order with Onyx and Rebuild Mailbox processes. ?Anyway, I hope that your home network is rescued.

And in answer to your question, no. ?We use iCloud mainly, but Sync is a useful adjunct, as is Day One for storing events and their corresponding files and scans, but we don’t have a network with a single Home drive.

Chris?

On 29 Sep 2022, at 13:49, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. ?After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. ?It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. ?Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! ?I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac. ?

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! ?Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan





 

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We seem - and I do emphasise “seem”! - to have it working most of the time now. My iMac had a slight break in transmission yesterday evening but got back again. I do hope this is the end of the panic! :D?
Best
Susan


On 2 Oct 2022, at 11:05, zuiko via <ftog@...> wrote:

Susan

I’ve found that a NAS needs a fixed IP address on the LAN to be reliable; DHCP can take a little while to re-allocate IPs sometimes, perhaps on older or mixed systems.

I hope that your cable connection works out, but Jude’s idea of checking what’s showing on your network map is a good one – except that my router is 192.168.0.1 . . .

Chris

On 1 Oct 2022, at 16:19, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

It turned out - cross fingers - that there needed to be a cable connection to set the thing up to start with. Now, it seems to be functioning normally via wifi but, of course, we shall see! ?
Best
Susan


On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:41, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

I got spotlight to rescan the whole drive. Helped a little not much. Basically its not like how it used to be. Part of this I think is my own fault in that in some cases I have buried files too deep and I am in the process of getting them back to one or two max 3 levels.?


Jude




On 30 Sep 2022, at 2:41 am, zuiko via??<ftog@...> wrote:

Susan

That sounds pretty tricky! ?And I’m sorry that you have found incompatibilities, but I’ve started using Howard Oakley’s prolific bits of advice on??when seemingly insoluble problems start.

My latest problem has been Spotlight, which seems less and less likely to find files when I need them. ?Likewise with Mail, in which Search is not as effective as once it was. ?It might be because of my proliferation of emails and accounts, but I do try to maintain order with Onyx and Rebuild Mailbox processes. ?Anyway, I hope that your home network is rescued.

And in answer to your question, no. ?We use iCloud mainly, but Sync is a useful adjunct, as is Day One for storing events and their corresponding files and scans, but we don’t have a network with a single Home drive.

Chris?

On 29 Sep 2022, at 13:49, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. ?After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. ?It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. ?Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! ?I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac. ?

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! ?Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan






 

Oooh, techie stuff! I’ll pass that on to my overseer! :D
Best
Susan

On 1 Oct 2022, at 05:09, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

Have you tried accessing your modem via browser window and ascertaining what is on your network and which position it is on the network so you can address it ? Type in ….




Jude


On 29 Sep 2022, at 10:49 pm, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac.

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan


 

My boss tells me this is actually a problem with Windows - oh, now, there’s a surprise! :D
Best
Susan

On 3 Oct 2022, at 12:30, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Oooh, techie stuff! I’ll pass that on to my overseer! :D
Best
Susan


On 1 Oct 2022, at 05:09, Judith Hall <glenidol@...> wrote:

Have you tried accessing your modem via browser window and ascertaining what is on your network and which position it is on the network so you can address it ? Type in ….




Jude


On 29 Sep 2022, at 10:49 pm, Purler <susan.platter@...> wrote:

Do you run a home network? We have had one for years and never had any setup difficulties - until now. Harvey decided that his ageing MacBook Air was not agile enough to be the main man, so to speak, so he laid plans to replace it with my old 13in MacBook Pro, which had an SSD fitted. After some time in process, the plans became a struggle, then the struggle was replaced by a lot of research. It seems there is a (groan) known problem with Catalina, which the MBP was running, when it comes to networks. Apple have done those things which they ought not to have done and made it pretty impossible to use Catalina for our purposes and we are not alone in feeling annoyed at them.

Next stage, Harvey is replacing Catalina on the MBP with the Air’s Mojave installation. Watch this space! I have Catalina on my 16in MBP but still have Mojave on my nearly ten-year-old 27in iMac.

I do hope this works, because I am accumulating scans and downloads that need to go onto what we call “Primary”, which will hopefully be the MBP once it’s been converted from its heresy! Oh I’ve just remembered: I have a thumb drive to put these docs on!
Best,
Susan