Re: Introduction and an outlook 2024 question
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 12:53 PM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
There, when it is selected, is a button called view settings.
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Daniel, that button is the first one in the Classic (format, not Outlook Classic) ribbon format.? After hitting Alt, V, (at least in English, since View Google Translates to "Sicht," your key combo is likely Alt, S) you can either hit Tab or Down Arrow to drop into the ribbon, then left/right arrow through the controls in the ribbon.? The "Message Preview" menu button is two to the right of the View Settings button.
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You can also double check your ribbon view setting as follows:
1. Hit Alt once.
2. Hit Tab twice.? It does not matter which ribbon you are in, this lands you on the Ribbon Display Options button.
3. Activate the button, and you should be presented with two layout options, simplified ribbon and classic ribbon.
4. Gain focus on the one you prefer and hit Enter.
These instructions for changing the ribbon layout work with exactly the same steps whether your current layout is Classic or Simplified.
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Re: Introduction and an outlook 2024 question
Hi Brian.
Yes this is it. It is just a little different to reach these options.
Here, when i press the alt key, there are three tabs. One of them is view. There, when it is selected, is a button called view settings. And there are all these different options. So the classical menu is not visible even though i have activated the classic menu bar thing. It is confusing yes but i finally found it. There is like the main category mail and then i can tab once and see all the mail related categories such as message handling etc.
And yes, that was translated correctly. Your german is incredibly good. *grins*
Best regards
Daniel
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While I have the German language pack on my machine, I don't want to tweak my system language to use it, or I'd be confused.
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I can tell you that in the English version of Outlook New, you can turn off conversation view in what's called the View ribbon in English, and it's the second ribbon of the three.? The English names are Home, View, Help.? In that ribbon is a control for Conversations, and when activated there are two submenus, one for the message list and the other for the reading pane.? In the option for the message list, I suspect all you need to do is activate the option for "Do not group messages," and you will be good to go.? I'd have to believe that this will show up in German as: "Keine Nachrichten gruppieren."? (Or something close to it, as this is a Google translation and I do not speak German).
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Re: Introduction and an outlook 2024 question
Daniel,
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While I have the German language pack on my machine, I don't want to tweak my system language to use it, or I'd be confused.
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I can tell you that in the English version of Outlook New, you can turn off conversation view in what's called the View ribbon in English, and it's the second ribbon of the three.? The English names are Home, View, Help.? In that ribbon is a control for Conversations, and when activated there are two submenus, one for the message list and the other for the reading pane.? In the option for the message list, I suspect all you need to do is activate the option for "Do not group messages," and you will be good to go.? I'd have to believe that this will show up in German as: "Keine Nachrichten gruppieren."? (Or something close to it, as this is a Google translation and I do not speak German).
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Re: Introduction and an outlook 2024 question
Hi Brian. Oh sorry. I am using the new outlook 2024 as a single component but it normally is part of the ms office 2024. The menu shortcuts don't help since your outlook is in english and has different labels for the features. Mine is in german. Yes that was confusing. I mean the grouping thing. I mean the conversations. All threads with more than one message are in a treeview, which i don't like too much. I rather have them one by one so i hope, i am replying to the right message right now. :-) Best regards Daniel ________________________________________ Von: [email protected] < [email protected]> im Auftrag von Brian Vogel via groups.io <britechguy@...> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Mai 2025 17:34 Bis: [email protected] < [email protected]> Betreff: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Introduction and an outlook 2024 question With regard to message preview text:Alt, V, PL, O ?[View Ribbon, Message Preview, Off] turns off message preview in Outlook classicAlt, V, MP, H [View Ribbon, Message Preview, Hide Preview Text] does the same thing in New Outlook.?I don't know what you mean by grouping, as you could mean Conversation View or you could mean Grouping by date in the mailboxes.--Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)Ninety-nine percent (99%) of American conservatism today consists of creating a false scenario then railing against it as though it were reality.
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Re: Introduction and an outlook 2024 question
With regard to message preview text:
Alt, V, PL, O ?[View Ribbon, Message Preview, Off] turns off message preview in Outlook classic
Alt, V, MP, H [View Ribbon, Message Preview, Hide Preview Text] does the same thing in New Outlook.
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I don't know what you mean by grouping, as you could mean Conversation View or you could mean Grouping by date in the mailboxes.
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Re: Introduction and an outlook 2024 question
Dani,
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Are you using the Outlook Classic or Outlook New variant of Outlook 2024?? It has both, and the answers to your questions directly depend on the user interface you've chosen to use.
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If you are using Outlook Classic, I'd strongly suggest you take time over the next 4 years to work with the new UI as much as you can, and get comfortable with it, because it will become the only option in 2029.
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Introduction and an outlook 2024 question
Hello all.
I am reading this list a long time already but for those who don't know me yet, i will post my introduction below my question so those who want to help me, will have it a bit easier. :-)
I have an entire new computer now and also Microsoft Outlook 2024 (no M365.
I am a bit confused because of the way, settings are managed.
But for now, i need help with two things.
1. When i am in the email list, it shows me the message such as sender's name, subject and date. But even though i have turned off the preview, i can still see part of the message without having to tab or something like that. Can i turn that off?
2. I have turned off that feature, that outlook groups the messages but it still does that. Why?
Thank you in advance for help.
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And now here my intro.
I am Daniel from hamburg in Germany. Most of you do know me i think. Especially Brian Vogel, who helped a lot with my old computer. Now that i have a completely new one, i want to start all over again. If you want to know more about me or have questions, do it privately by sending me an email to:
Kind regards
Daniel
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Re: task switching with outlook new
If you mean how do you move around in Outlook when you've got a New Mail composition window open, and not having all your other open programs be part of your Alt + Tab traversal, you don't.? You couldn't in Outlook Classic, either.
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If you mean something else, then you need to be a lot more specific in your description.
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task switching with outlook new
Good day
How does one ALT tab when you are in a new mail.
Using alt tab and go into claender or other emails.
Is there a setting.
Thanks
Timothy
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Re: Opening Links From Within an Email Message
I do the same thing, or I keep focus on the link and use shift f10, the applications menu to find “open” , but I wanted others to know it frequently happens to me as well. Pressing enter on the link should
work, but often sends focus to the subject line instead.
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I missed the first several messages in this thread, but I have had this issue in MS365 Outlook Classic running Jaws 2025.
When it happens, I go back to the email and use the links list for Jaws, insert+f7 and arrow to the link, then tab to Activate Link and it works each time.
I only do this with email sources I trust.
This is happening less often after the Jaws May update, which may or may not have anything to do with the Jaws update, but I thought I should mention that.
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I often have this issue as well
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On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 02:44 AM, Lana & Don wrote:
two quick presses of the left mouse key
AKA a double click.? You'll see this term used myriad times in mouse centric instructions.? It translates to "activate" in screen-reader parlance.
Something's weird about the email message you're having trouble with, as having focus on a link and pressing spacebar or enter should always activate that link.
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Re: Opening Links From Within an Email Message
I missed the first several messages in this thread, but I have had this issue in MS365 Outlook Classic running Jaws 2025. When it happens, I go back to the email and use the links list for Jaws, insert+f7 and arrow to the link, then tab to Activate Link and it works each time. I only do this with email sources I trust. This is happening less often after the Jaws May update, which may or may not have anything to do with the Jaws update, but I thought I should mention that. ? ? Richard, USA "A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian." -- Pope Francis ? My web site: ?
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Opening Links From Within an Email Message? I often have this issue as well ? ? ? [EXTERNAL] This email came from an external source. Only open attachments or links that you are expecting from a known sender. ? On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 02:44 AM, Lana & Don wrote: two quick presses of the left mouse key
AKA a double click.? You'll see this term used myriad times in mouse centric instructions.? It translates to "activate" in screen-reader parlance. Something's weird about the email message you're having trouble with, as having focus on a link and pressing spacebar or enter should always activate that link. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) Ninety-nine percent (99%) of American conservatism today consists of creating a false scenario then railing against it as though it were reality.
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Re: Opening Links From Within an Email Message
I often have this issue as well
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On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 02:44 AM, Lana & Don wrote:
two quick presses of the left mouse key
AKA a double click.? You'll see this term used myriad times in mouse centric instructions.? It translates to "activate" in screen-reader parlance.
Something's weird about the email message you're having trouble with, as having focus on a link and pressing spacebar or enter should always activate that link.
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Re: Opening Links From Within an Email Message
Tried it on an old message.? It seemed to work but the big test is on a new message which is fresh.?
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Sent: May 24, 2025 8:39 PM
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David could you please try pressing twice the left mouse button on your key board.
And let me know if this works.
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It worked for me.
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I dredged up my memory and tried this on a link I wanted to open.
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Opening Links From Within an Email Message
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Lana, good news.? I have too landed on subject when attempting to open a link.? I’m trying to answer a potential client’s inquiry ????? and all it does is open a message to the company providing the lead.? I use a gaming keyboard although
Susan’s directions are correct.? With “BARK.com” the company I deal with, I can click on the “Contact …” link which basically does nothing or click on another link just below that.? It either opens a hyperlink or the link itself.? So, you are not alone in
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Hi Lana,
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One strategy I use when this happens ((although I haven’t experienced the going back to the subject line part), is:
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Put your pc cursor on the betining of the URL or where it announces link
Then press applications key and arrow up or down to open link and press enter.
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That usually does the trick, although you may have to fiddle sometimes with where to put the cursor (depending on ?whether it is an actual URL or one shown as a smart link (represented by a word).
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Windows 11 and Jaws ?2025.
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I have opened an email in outlook classic .? Within the email there is another link but when I enter on it it just announces the subject.
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Any ideas as to how to open the link.
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Re: Opening Links From Within an Email Message
? David could you please try pressing twice the left mouse button on your key board. And let me know if this works. ? It worked for me. ? I dredged up my memory and tried this on a link I wanted to open. ? LanaFrom: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Sunday, 25 May 2025 3:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Opening Links From Within an Email Message ? Lana, good news.? I have too landed on subject when attempting to open a link.? I’m trying to answer a potential client’s inquiry ????? and all it does is open a message to the company providing the lead.? I use a gaming keyboard although Susan’s directions are correct.? With “BARK.com” the company I deal with, I can click on the “Contact …” link which basically does nothing or click on another link just below that.? It either opens a hyperlink or the link itself.? So, you are not alone in your problem.? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Susan Thompson via groups.io
Sent: May 23, 2025 11:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Opening Links From Within a Web Page? Hi Lana, ? One strategy I use when this happens ((although I haven’t experienced the going back to the subject line part), is: ? Put your pc cursor on the betining of the URL or where it announces link Then press applications key and arrow up or down to open link and press enter. ? That usually does the trick, although you may have to fiddle sometimes with where to put the cursor (depending on ?whether it is an actual URL or one shown as a smart link (represented by a word). ? Regards Susan ? ? ? ? ?????????????? I am using Office 365 latest version. ? Windows 11 and Jaws ?2025. ? I have opened an email in outlook classic .? Within the email there is another link but when I enter on it it just announces the subject. ? Any ideas as to how to open the link. ? Thanks. Lana????
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Chris,
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Thanks for the appropriate guidance.
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Simon,
Your question had nothing at all to do with either Microsoft Office or Microsoft 365.? Direct this type of question to one of these groups, or any one of a number of others:
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Windows Access with Screen Readers Group (Formerly: Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group)
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Owner: Glenn Ervin
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Re: Opening Links From Within an Email Message
Lana, good news.? I have too landed on subject when attempting to open a link.? I’m trying to answer a potential client’s inquiry ????? and all it does is open a message to the company providing the lead.? I use a gaming keyboard although
Susan’s directions are correct.? With “BARK.com” the company I deal with, I can click on the “Contact …” link which basically does nothing or click on another link just below that.? It either opens a hyperlink or the link itself.? So, you are not alone in
your problem.?
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From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Susan Thompson via groups.io
Sent: May 23, 2025 11:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Opening Links From Within a Web Page
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Hi Lana,
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One strategy I use when this happens ((although I haven’t experienced the going back to the subject line part), is:
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Put your pc cursor on the betining of the URL or where it announces link
Then press applications key and arrow up or down to open link and press enter.
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That usually does the trick, although you may have to fiddle sometimes with where to put the cursor (depending on ?whether it is an actual URL or one shown as a smart link (represented by a word).
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Regards
Susan
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Windows 11 and Jaws ?2025.
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I have opened an email in outlook classic .? Within the email there is another link but when I enter on it it just announces the subject.
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Any ideas as to how to open the link.
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Thanks.
Lana????
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Please Google: “disable Waves MaxxAudio Pro”
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Hi has anyone who uses windows11 come across this popup from audio max pro prompting you what you were plugging in your computer such as speakers or headphones etc, how do you disable this?
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Re: Opening Links From Within an Email Message
On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 02:44 AM, Lana & Don wrote:
two quick presses of the left mouse key
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AKA a double click.? You'll see this term used myriad times in mouse centric instructions.? It translates to "activate" in screen-reader parlance.
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Something's weird about the email message you're having trouble with, as having focus on a link and pressing spacebar or enter should always activate that link.
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Re: Opening Links From Within an Email Message
Hi Lana, ? One strategy I use when this happens ((although I haven’t experienced the going back to the subject line part), is: ? Put your pc cursor on the betining of the URL or where it announces link Then press applications key and arrow up or down to open link and press enter. ? That usually does the trick, although you may have to fiddle sometimes with where to put the cursor (depending on ?whether it is an actual URL or one shown as a smart link (represented by a word). ? Regards Susan ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lana & Don via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2025 4:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [M365-Accessibility] Opening Links From Within a Web Page? ?????????????? I am using Office 365 latest version. ? Windows 11 and Jaws ?2025. ? I have opened an email in outlook classic .? Within the email there is another link but when I enter on it it just announces the subject. ? Any ideas as to how to open the link. ? Thanks. Lana????
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