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Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
I actually find it more annoying when things like this are posted on screen-reader lists. This has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. It's an Outlook problem. I wish moderators of screen-reader lists would take action to stop people posting things that are not about the screen-readers. This is the correct group for problems to do with Outlook. | Wayne Senior, Dewsbury, England
On Sunday, 12 January 2025 at 19:24:50 GMT, Brian Vogel via groups.io <britechguy@...> wrote:
John,
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Curtis Chong has already answered your question on the JFW Users group in message #30650.
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In the future, I would kindly ask that you do not multi-post the same question here that you are asking elsewhere until you have given sufficient time to see if someone's going to answer.? The following applies to email lists/groups every bit as much as it does to strictly online forums: ?
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019-- |
Regards,
Wayne Senior
Latest stable versions of NVDA, JAWS and Narrator. |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 05:58 PM, janet gross wrote:
This method you are describing will save emails or attachments to the Computer, is this right? -
Janet,
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Since Ann has not replied, I'll jump in.? What she mentioned applies only to Microsoft Word and its save functionality, at least as written, which is using Alt + F, T, S, to get to the Word Options Save pane, and then checking the checkbox for "Save to computer by default."
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When you go to save an attachment or attachments in a message, you should get the standard "Save As" dialog for individual messages, where you pick the Save location, and if you choose to Save All Attachments, you get what is essentially a modified Save As dialog after a dialog that presents you with a short list of all the attachments on the message.? You have to pick the folder where you want all the attachments saved or create a new one where they will be placed.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
开云体育Oh I forgot!!!! End of discussion!!! ? ? Please advise as you like. ? Mike M. ? Mike mcglashon AD9CA Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331 ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 4:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11 ? On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 04:00 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
- Well, Mike, its a common one, and one made by a member of group admin, me, as I am a moderator here.? I expect this convention to be followed, and for precisely the reasons outlined in the linked article. ? If one wants to cross-post, there is a right way to do it.? Posting the same question at the same time on multiple venues where none of them have any idea that it appears elsewhere isn't that way.? Period. End of sentence. End of discussion.? It will not be tolerated as general practice and when I see it occur it will be called out. ? What's unrealistic is your belief that there is not a ton of overlap between the membership of the various blind-centric tech support groups.? That overlap is huge, which makes the appearance of the same question in multiple places an annoyance in other ways, too. -- Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) . . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
开云体育Stomp!!! Stomp!!!! Flail!!!! Flail!!!! See guys he is a awesome moderator. ? ? Please advise as you like. ? Mike M. ? Mike mcglashon AD9CA Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331 ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 4:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11 ? On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 04:00 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
- Well, Mike, its a common one, and one made by a member of group admin, me, as I am a moderator here.? I expect this convention to be followed, and for precisely the reasons outlined in the linked article. ? If one wants to cross-post, there is a right way to do it.? Posting the same question at the same time on multiple venues where none of them have any idea that it appears elsewhere isn't that way.? Period. End of sentence. End of discussion.? It will not be tolerated as general practice and when I see it occur it will be called out. ? What's unrealistic is your belief that there is not a ton of overlap between the membership of the various blind-centric tech support groups.? That overlap is huge, which makes the appearance of the same question in multiple places an annoyance in other ways, too. -- Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) . . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
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This method you are describing will save emails or attachments to the Computer, is this right? Kindly, Janet. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 1:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11 In word, go to options (ALT+f, then T, then s) Tab to "save to computer by default" and be sure it is checked. At 01:12 PM 1/12/2025, you wrote: Hi. I just upgraded to windows-11 and am using the latest versions of |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
Janet and anyone else who wishes to respond to the original question:? It's perfectly fine to do so.? ?Had I not brought up that the message was cross-posted, you'd never have known.
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The answers given in both venues have quite a bit of overlap, but there are some that are unique to each venue.? That's one of the reasons that when cross-posting is done, that the person doing it designate which of the topics on which of the forums should be "the master topic" for replies.? That way everyone knows what everyone else has said.
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I'm just trying to discourage cross-posting, generally, and saying when it's done it should be done "the right way."? That places no restrictions on those providing answers, only those asking the questions.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
开云体育Hello Brian, ? Does this message from you mean I wasn’t suppose to reply to John’s question? ? Kindly, ? Janet. ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 4:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11 ? On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 05:40 PM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:
- John, ? To be clear, I am calm, and I really felt that I calmly expressed "the unwritten rule" about not cross-posting/multi-posting after this occurred by your hand for the first time.? I also had every reason to believe you'd honor the request, and it's clear that you also read the linked article. ? There is absolutely nothing new, at all, about cross-posting being very, very strongly frowned upon when it's done as a "plastering of the same message" across multiple venues.? Doing so causes those who continue to do it to get reputations that they really don't want in those venues. ? The expectation about appropriate technique was stated, and it's my expectation that the membership as a whole will follow it.? I do this in response to "official announcements" from group administration where I am a member only.? I don't make the rules there, but when any member of group administration makes a direct statement on policy, that's policy. -- Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) . . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
开云体育Hi John, ? Yes, I had this same problem with getting the pesty message Map Network Drive, but I still couldn’t save my attachments like you say you could. So now, what I do when I want to save an attachment is to just open the email, control plus shift to the attachment I want to save, and press control plus space bar to select it, and I then press control plus c to copy, and move to the folder where I want to save the attachment, and press control plus v to paste the attachment in the folder. Just remember when you press the control plus space bar to select, Jaws 2025 will not say selected, or at least that is how it is on my Windows 11 24h1 Laptop, although, it might be different on your Computer. I have to admit I am getting so tired of all these different Outlooks MS has been putting out lately.? But yet, I do have to admit I do like the option to just select ?and copy the attachment or the email and place it into any folder. ? I also like when I want to save the entire email with the attachment I can press the context key arrow up or down a couple of times, until I hear copy email to the clip board I then press enter on that, and I then go to any folder I want to place the email into. Please don’t ask me if I am using the MS 365? Outlook Classic or the new Outlook, as I will need to look into that now. MS drives me nuts with all these different Outlooks, some times people don’t even realize which Outlook they are using. ? Kindly, ? Janet. ? ? ? ? ? ? rom: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via groups.io Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 1:13 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: r1 <realman02@...> Subject: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11 ? Hi. I just upgraded to windows-11 and am using the latest versions of Office-365 and JAWS. I’m encountering an issue saving attachments from an email to a folder on my computer. Every morning, I get the NFB’s email with the New York times. To save the attachments to my computer, I do the following: I get into the email and move to Save attachments and press Enter. I press enter on Okay to save all attachments. I shift-tab back to the list of folders and select Newspapers, which is in my Kurzweil Education folder and press Enter. I then tab over to the okay button. It used to be that this would save the attachments. Now it does save the attachments but it also brings up a context menu saying, “Map Network Drive”. A sighted friend did a quick assist and told me that even though JAWS is saying that I’m on Okay, I’m actually on Tools, which is right next to the okay. I know there is an alternative way to save the attachments, however this issue comes up when I’m saving other attachments too. Sorry for the long email. Is anyone else having this issue? John Riehl |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 05:40 PM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:
Let’s all calm down about this. -
John,
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To be clear, I am calm, and I really felt that I calmly expressed "the unwritten rule" about not cross-posting/multi-posting after this occurred by your hand for the first time.? I also had every reason to believe you'd honor the request, and it's clear that you also read the linked article.
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There is absolutely nothing new, at all, about cross-posting being very, very strongly frowned upon when it's done as a "plastering of the same message" across multiple venues.? Doing so causes those who continue to do it to get reputations that they really don't want in those venues.
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The expectation about appropriate technique was stated, and it's my expectation that the membership as a whole will follow it.? I do this in response to "official announcements" from group administration where I am a member only.? I don't make the rules there, but when any member of group administration makes a direct statement on policy, that's policy.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
开云体育Let’s all calm down about this. What I should have done is note in my post that I’d sent this to another email list and named the list. ? ? John ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 5:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11 ? On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 04:00 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
- Well, Mike, its a common one, and one made by a member of group admin, me, as I am a moderator here.? I expect this convention to be followed, and for precisely the reasons outlined in the linked article. ? If one wants to cross-post, there is a right way to do it.? Posting the same question at the same time on multiple venues where none of them have any idea that it appears elsewhere isn't that way.? Period. End of sentence. End of discussion.? It will not be tolerated as general practice and when I see it occur it will be called out. ? What's unrealistic is your belief that there is not a ton of overlap between the membership of the various blind-centric tech support groups.? That overlap is huge, which makes the appearance of the same question in multiple places an annoyance in other ways, too. -- Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) . . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 04:00 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
This is a absolutely unreasonable and unrealistic request. -
Well, Mike, its a common one, and one made by a member of group admin, me, as I am a moderator here.? I expect this convention to be followed, and for precisely the reasons outlined in the linked article.
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If one wants to cross-post, there is a right way to do it.? Posting the same question at the same time on multiple venues where none of them have any idea that it appears elsewhere isn't that way.? Period. End of sentence. End of discussion.? It will not be tolerated as general practice and when I see it occur it will be called out.
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What's unrealistic is your belief that there is not a ton of overlap between the membership of the various blind-centric tech support groups.? That overlap is huge, which makes the appearance of the same question in multiple places an annoyance in other ways, too.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
开云体育I would recommend doing the following:1. ?Open File Explorer and navigate to the folder you desire. 2. ?In the message, shift tab to your attachments and press CTRL + A. 3. ?Alt + Tab to the file explorer window and press CTRL + V. You'll be a happy camper because you'll find your attachments sitting in that folder. ?I usually keep a file cxplorer window open no matter what I do, but especially when I am looking at email. Hope this helps. Follow me on Mastodon: @wiljames@... Pro Max On Jan 12, 2025, at 2:12?PM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:
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Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
开云体育Quoting: In the future, I would kindly ask that you do not multi-post the same question here that you are asking elsewhere End quote: Dear Mr. Brian: This is a absolutely unreasonable and unrealistic request. ?(to use your foot stomping language). Your request assumes that the market places where the questions are asked are filled with duplicity. However, each list is a different street corner and one cannot assume that the same people are passing by. Hence, it is quite reasonable and prudent (absolutely prudent) (again to stomp my foot the way you do) to ask the same question on multiple lists even if some if not many people are passing by a different corner. ? ? Please advise as you like. ? Mike M. ? Mike mcglashon AD9CA Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331 ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 1:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11 ? John, ? Curtis Chong has already answered your question on the JFW Users group in message #30650. ? In the future, I would kindly ask that you do not multi-post the same question here that you are asking elsewhere until you have given sufficient time to see if someone's going to answer.? The following applies to email lists/groups every bit as much as it does to strictly online forums: ? -- Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) . . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
In word, go to options (ALT+f, then T, then s)
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Tab to "save to computer by default" and be sure it is checked. At 01:12 PM 1/12/2025, you wrote:
Hi. I just upgraded to windows-11 and am using the latest versions of Office-365 and JAWS. |
Re: Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
John,
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Curtis Chong has already answered your question on the JFW Users group in message #30650.
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In the future, I would kindly ask that you do not multi-post the same question here that you are asking elsewhere until you have given sufficient time to see if someone's going to answer.? The following applies to email lists/groups every bit as much as it does to strictly online forums: ?
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
开云体育Hi. I just upgraded to windows-11 and am using the latest versions of Office-365 and JAWS. I’m encountering an issue saving attachments from an email to a folder on my computer. Every morning, I get the NFB’s email with the New York times. To save the attachments to my computer, I do the following: I get into the email and move to Save attachments and press Enter. I press enter on Okay to save all attachments. I shift-tab back to the list of folders and select Newspapers, which is in my Kurzweil Education folder and press Enter. I then tab over to the okay button. It used to be that this would save the attachments. Now it does save the attachments but it also brings up a context menu saying, “Map Network Drive”. A sighted friend did a quick assist and told me that even though JAWS is saying that I’m on Okay, I’m actually on Tools, which is right next to the okay. I know there is an alternative way to save the attachments, however this issue comes up when I’m saving other attachments too. Sorry for the long email. Is anyone else having this issue? John Riehl |
Re: searching in outlook
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 12:37 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
f3 for search? -
Yep, much like F2 for rename.? There are instances where Ctrl + F has to be used for the initial search and F3 is the "find next" for the same thing you last searched for.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Re: searching in outlook
开云体育f3 for search? I normally use control plus F in windows explorer. I had no idea about f3 for searching anything. I'll have to play wiht this. thanks. On 1/11/2025 10:38 AM, Brian Vogel via
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Re: searching in outlook
Given that F3 is kinda-sorta the universal accelerator key for search functionality all over Windows apps it's no surprise it's used this way in Outlook along with myriad other applications.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019 |
Re: searching in outlook
开云体育It does appear to be the same thing for me as alt+q. ? ? -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of ?a?a???t?? ??t???p????? via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 12:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] searching in outlook ? Hi Sarah-all, With outlook classic, office 365, latest jaws and win11, I can search by hitting f3 in outlook. Wonder if it is the same effect as produced by control-e. ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Cheers, ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Takis ? From:
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On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami via groups.io ? what I used to do is just stay in the inbox and hit control plus E. then my curser would always land in the search field. I have no idea if this willhelp but those are my observations.
Sarah Alawami | Salesforce Administrator | Accessibility Consultant | Educator
On 1/10/2025 8:23 AM, Ardell, Kristi SDPR:EX via groups.io wrote:
Microsoft Windows Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621) workstation AMD64 [64 bit] NVDA 2023.3 [32 bit] Microsoft Office?16.0.17029.20028 [64 bit] |