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Re: tutorial on Microsoft word
开云体育Hello Walter: ? NVDA has a series of ebooks on many of the Office products (Word, Excel, Power Point, and Outlook). While these trainings are focused on using these products with the NVDA screen reader, many of the shortcut keys and subject areas are described such that they can be applied using other screen readers. Each tutorial costs about $25 US and there are even bundles that lump these materials together along with technical support. Below is a link to the Word training. ? ? Sample chapters are available for free via a link on the above mentioned page so you can see the style of the training. ? Rick ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Walter Harper
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 5:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [office-accessibility] tutorial on Microsoft word ? Hello, Does anyone know where I can find a tutorial on Microsoft word?? My problem is learning how to format documents an complete filling ?out templates. Walter |
tutorial on Microsoft word
开云体育Hello, Does anyone know where I can find a tutorial on Microsoft word?? My problem is learning how to format documents an complete filling ?out templates. Walter |
Re: Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10
开云体育I don't know if I've actually seen this behavior specifically with JAWS and Outlook. However, when I open Web sites in my Web browser JAWS often doesn't provide me with the Web site in its virtual buffer. This often happens when the browser first loads. It's as if I'm stuck in a kind of limbo and I usually press the tab key which forces JAWS to render the Web page correctly, allowing navigation to function as I would expect. I'm just wondering if something similar is happening with Outlook messages. You could try pressing the alt key twice. The first press of the alt key moves focus away from the message to the ribbon and the second press of the alt key returns focus back to the message itself. I know that I've seen similar things happen with NVDA where it doesn't so much go silent when a window opens but it doesn't seem to know where it is and forcing the application to quickly change focus away from and back to the window helps it to take a second look, so to speak, and things are back to normal. I'm wondering if this technique might also work with JAWS?
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 On 9/6/2020 1:06 AM, Susan Thompson
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Re: Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10
开云体育Hi all, ? I experience regular silences in JAWS 2020 also, but I’m not sure it is just in outlook. ? Try running Narator (control-windows-enter) and give it up to 10 seconds sometimes that kick starts the speech again. If that works, then just toggle Narator off again . ? Just a trick I stumbled on that often works. Regards Susan ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 6217naz@...
Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2020 2:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [office-accessibility] Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10 ? Hello all, A lot of great information here. I have an issue where my JAWS goes silent or rather crashes whenever I try to read an email message. I minimize the window, sometimes JAWS restores function, sometimes I have to reopen JAWS. drew ? |
Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10
开云体育Hello all, A lot of great information here. I have an issue where my JAWS goes silent or rather crashes whenever I try to read an email message. I minimize the window, sometimes JAWS restores function, sometimes I have to reopen JAWS. drew ? |
Re: Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10
开云体育Hi David, I never noticed actually. It happens consistently. drew ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 7:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10 ? Drew, Does this consistently occur with all emails or with specific emails? David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 ? On 9/5/2020 10:37 PM, 6217naz@... wrote:
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Re: Welcome to Our New Members To This New List
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I'm agreeable to discussion of any application that is technically a part of Office, whether it's Office Home and Student or Office Professional. Admittedly, Onenote tends to blur the lines between Office and Windows 10 since there are two versions of Onenote but I'm fine talking about that. Teams does technically integrate with Office and, if I'm going to be consistent with my own guidelines, I should permit it since it's now part of Microsoft 365 so discussion of Teams is totally fine. There is a separate Teams list which I created, probably before I realized that Teams was going to be considered part of Office or at least part of Microsoft 365, which is technically Office plus Teams and another application. Teams questions is totally fine but for anyone who wants a dedicated Teams list you can subscribe by sending an email to [email protected] Teams is a program that I sometimes feel like I'm living in during my work life so I'm happy to answer Teams questions either here or on the Teams list. I'd rather not deal with Skype on this particular list since it's technically not part of Office. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 9/5/2020 11:33 PM, Rick wrote:
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Re: Welcome to Our New Members To This New List
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First, let me thank you for hosting this list. This is not a trivial activity to monitor And I appreciate your work. As a person who uses MS office almost every day, I look forward to exchanging experiences with others who need to use assistive technology to operate Office. In your vision, is this list restricted purely to Office products (i.e. Word, Excel, Power Point, Outlook, and Publisher) or can we discuss other Microsoft apps like OneNote, Skype, Skype for business, Visio, and Microsoft Teams)? Thanks, Rick -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Goldfield Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 8:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [office-accessibility] Welcome to Our New Members To This New List I wanted to welcome all of you to this list. I also want to thank you for choosing to subscribe, considering the large number of groups which are available and which always competes with our time and attention. I realize that there are a ton of technology-related groups out there for blind users and creating yet another one risks further fragmentation. However, about a week ago I ran into a situation where I needed assistance in performing a task with Outlook and I just couldn't figure out the best list to post it to. It wasn't specifically a Windows issue nor was it a screen reader specific question. I realized that what we needed (at least, what I believed that we needed) was a group to ask questions specific to Office, which is why I created this list. The large number of subscribers to this list in such a short period of time confirms that I may have been correct about the need for such a list but time will tell if I'm right or not in the long term. In the meantime please continue to enjoy this list and use it for its intended purpose for as long as you feel it's useful to you. No question is too basic and, while I know this may be an overly used expression, there really is no such thing as a stupid question. I just ask that you follow the rules for this list. Be courteous, try to make your subject lines detailed and be sure to specify the version of the software you're asking about, as in JAWS 2020, Word 2019, Windows 10, etc. JAWS 2020 users are encouraged to update to the August release. JAWS updates often add improvements and fixes to the way that it interacts with Office products and this is also the case for Zoomtext. NVDA users should update to version 2020.2, as well. Finally, please be aware that the first few messages from users need to be approved by me before they get posted to the list. This is a default setting with the Groups.io service. Because I'm working during the day I won't be able to approve users until this evening and so there may be a delay in seeing messages being posted. Thanks in advance for your patience and understanding. Finally, I hope that this list proves to be a benefit to you and that it helps you to learn more about how to best use Microsoft Office. Wishing you the best. -- David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org |
Re: Questions about outlook 365
开云体育Hello: ? It appears that Outlook is not set as your default email application. You may need to adjust your settings. To open the default application settings, press the Windows key and enter “default.” Choose default apps and press enter. This will open the default apps settings. Tab until you find the email choice and change it to Outlook. ? Regarding deleting a message, are you pressing delete in the table view of the messages or in an open dialog displaying the message. The delete key only works in the table view. ? Rick ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Husna Begum via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 9:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [office-accessibility] Questions about outlook 365 ? Hi, ? When I click on an email link, instead of opening a new message and putting the address in the to field jaws 2020 says add an account, but if I copy the link and open a new message and paste the address in, it is fine, how can I get outlook to automatically open a new message when I click on an email link? ? When I am deleting messages why doesn’t the delete key delete the message? Is there any way to make this happen? And if I do ctrlD to delete the message, can I make outlook go into the next message and start reading it instead of having to press enter on each message I want to read? ? Thanks |
Re: [EXTERNAL] [office-accessibility] How to work with comments in word
Hello List:
Comments are a powerful feature of Microsoft Word. In my job and personal work, I use them almost every day. The following describes what you can do with comments using Office 365 on a Windows platform. Some of the behaviors may not be available in Office 2016 or earlier. Comments can be added, edited, deleted, replied to, resolved, and reopened. Word has two ways to visually display comments. The default is to display them in balloons, which visually appear on the right side of a document. The text in the document associated with the comment has some visual shading and a line from that text links it to the balloon. Another method is a separate window which can be to the right of the document or below the document where comments are displayed out of context. Both NVDA and JAWS indicate the presence of a comment as the text of the document is navigated. Neither will indicate if any replies exist. If the cursor moves into text associated with a comment they will announce that a comment is present. If the Application key is now pressed, choices will be provided to Edit the comment, delete the comment, reply to the comment, or resolve the comment. If the comment is already resolved, the last choice will be to reopen the comment instead of resolve the comment. Only the initial comment can be managed this way. Navigating to replies is described later in this document. If you delete a comment that has replies, the comment and all replies will be deleted. No indication that replies are being deleted will be offered. To add a comment, two keystroke combinations are provided by Word (Alt+r, followed by c, which has already been mentioned in this thread, or Control+Alt+m). I prefer the latter. Note, these are Word shortcuts and work with all screen readers. When you press either of these combination, you will be in a text field where you can edit the comment directly. When done, press the ESC key to return to editing the document. Word, not your screen reader, offers additional shortcut keys to navigate the comments in a document. Alt+r followed by n will navigate to the next comment in the document while Alt+r followed by v will navigate to the previous comment in the document. Each of these shortcuts will place you in the comment, so you can edit the comment directly, if desired. Pressing the ESC key will place you back in the document. Pressing Alt+r followed by n will navigate to the next comment, which will be the first reply, if one exists, or the next comment in the document if no replies exist. Word provides the ability to reply to comments. All replies are to the original comment. Even if you are in a reply, replying will be threaded to the original comment and not to the reply. JAWS treats all replies as a reply while NVDA treats them as levels with the initial comment at level 0. Another feature of comments in Word is the ability to resolve a comment. Comments are typically marked as resolved when the content of the comment has been incorporated into the document or the thread indicates it is not needed. To resolve a comment, the cursor needs to be either in the text associated with a comment or the cursor needs to be in the comment text. Press the application key and choose resolve comment. Resolving the original comment will set all replies to resolved as well. If a reply is selected instead, only the reply will be marked as resolved. If someone disagrees with the resolution, the comment can be reopened, again using the application key and choosing reopen. Typically, if someone chooses to reopen a comment, additional replies should be added to indicate why the comment has been reopened. Neither NVDA nor JAWS indicates if a comment is in the resolved state. Right now, the only way to determine if a comment is resolved for a screen reader user is to press the application key and if the options offer resolve comment, it is not resolved, and if the option offers reopen, the comment is resolved. Visually, resolved comments are compressed, showing only one line and are visually dimmed. Comments are also compressed if many are present on the same page of a document. This caused a problem (where the screen readers spoke a bunch of garbage) with earlier versions of JAWS and NVDA and even in the latest version of NVDA, UAI Automation needs to be checked (in the advanced settings) to avoid this problem. NVDA provides similar functionality already described in this thread for JAWS for working with comments. If the mode is changed from edit to browse (NVDA+space), pressing NVDA+F7 will open the elements dialog. Unlike Jaws, which has individual dialogs for items like links, headings, and comments, NVDA merges these all into a single dialog and allows the user to choose which to display by selecting an appropriate radio button. NVDA also combines comments and tracked changes into a single list called annotations. Also, while in browse mode, single key navigation using the 'a' key will move to the next annotation while Shift+a will move to the previous annotation. Besides the technical mechanics of working with comments as described above, there are also many philosophies of how to manage comments. In the various consortiums that I work with, each has their own rules on comment creation and resolution. It is important for any author, editor, or reviewer to understand the expectations of how comments will be managed relative to documents. Often, these are described in some policy or procedure. In one of the consortiums that I work, there is a document describing how comments should be managed. For example, only the original author of a comment can delete that comment. Anyone can reply to a comment. Only the editor of a document can create content that addresses a comment and can then set the comment to resolved. It is critical that all parties understand how to manage comments, especially when the editor is not the original author of a document. Because I spend a significant portion of my day creating, editing, and reviewing documents, many years ago I created an Excel spreadsheet to extract comments from Word documents and placing them (out of context) into an Excel spreadsheet. I am impressed, that even after 15 years, this macro still runs without need for modification. Kudus, Microsoft! This out of context list adds fields not present in screen reader lists, such as the associated text, whether the comment is resolved, page and line number, etc. Visual Basic for applications (VBA) macros were created to perform this function and many aspects of comments are provided beyond what screen readers provide. I am willing to share this automated spreadsheet to anyone who contacts me off list, but you will need to be comfortable running VBA macros, which involves enabling the developer tab on the ribbon. Also, I would request that you do not distribute to others, but have them contact me if they would desire a copy. Of course, I would also appreciate any feedback or problems encountered. Rick Blair softwarethatworks@... From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of skylar covich Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [office-accessibility] How to work with comments in word Thanks for this thread. I too am working with a potential employer which may require document commenting, and also accepting and rejecting and suggesting changes via Track Changes. I'm using Word 2016; that said, Alt + R followed by C works well to make comments, and Control + Shift + Apostrophe or alt + R followed by N to find the list of comments, as the others said. Skylar On 9/4/20, Mcavoy, Matthew <Matthew_Mcavoy@...> wrote: Good morning, Chelsea, -- Skylar J. Covich, Ph.D., Political Science |
Re: Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10
开云体育Drew, Does this consistently occur with all emails or with specific
emails? David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 On 9/5/2020 10:37 PM, 6217naz@...
wrote:
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Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10
开云体育Hello all, A lot of great information here. I have an issue where my JAWS goes silent or rather crashes whenever I try to read an email message. I minimize the window, sometimes JAWS restores function, sometimes I have to reopen JAWS. drew |
Re: Misspelled attribute in speech and sounds scheme
开云体育Leo, I am also unable to get misspelled words to speak with a
different voice in the attributes page. I've tried a couple of
different settings but it doesn't work for me, unless there's
something that I'm missing. If it isn't an error on my part then
it could be a bug with JAWS. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 On 9/5/2020 9:20 PM, Leo wrote:
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Questions about outlook 365
开云体育Hi, ? When I click on an email link, instead of opening a new message and putting the address in the to field jaws 2020 says add an account, but if I copy the link and open a new message and paste the address in, it is fine, how can I get outlook to automatically open a new message when I click on an email link? ? When I am deleting messages why doesn’t the delete key delete the message? Is there any way to make this happen? And if I do ctrlD to delete the message, can I make outlook go into the next message and start reading it instead of having to press enter on each message I want to read? ? Thanks |
Re: Misspelled attribute in speech and sounds scheme
开云体育Oh yes David, I have definitely tried those attributes, and all of them seem to work pretty well, except for the misspelled attribute.
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Re: are their any tutorials for outlook 2016
开云体育You can find a list of from the above link.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 On 9/5/2020 8:56 PM, Owais Patel wrote:
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Re: are their any tutorials for outlook 2016
Owais Patel
开云体育Hello everyone. My name is Owais Patel. I am new to this list, however, I do use office 2016 to complete my daily assinnments for school. One tutorial I recommend is the book "An Immersion Into Outlook 2016" by CathyAnne from Access Technology
?Institute. I hope this helps. ??
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Re: Misspelled attribute in speech and sounds scheme
开云体育Leo, you wrote . >>no matter what I do, I just can’t make jaws announce the
attribute misspelled word using a different voice. -- Have you activated the "Add" button so that you can specify which attributes you want JAWS to speak in a different voice? If you tab through the dialog you should encounter an "Add" button. Activate this button and you should encounter various check boxes for specific attributes.
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Re: Jaws2020 and Outlook 2016
开云体育Hi Brad,
?
Your?2 settings suggestions were both turned off, he only
needed to maximize the screen.? Thanks much for the tip, I'll save it for
future reference.
Take care.? Mike.? Sent from my iBarstool.? Go dodgers! ----- Original Message -----
From: Brad Snyder
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2020 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Jaws2020 and Outlook
2016 1. ?Make sure the Reading Pane is turned off. ?This can be done
in the Ribbon by selecting the View tab, then tabbing to the Reading Pane
button, and selecting Off, or by using the keyboard-sequence, ALT > V > PN
> O.
2. ?Turn off MessagePreviews. ?this can be done in the Ribbon by
selecting the View tab, and then tabbing to the Message Preview button, and
selecting Off, or by using the keyboard sequence, ALT > V > TL >
O.
HTH.
- Brad - On Sep 5, 2020, at 08:35, Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
wrote: Hi All,
?
A friend is having the problem
below and asks the following.? He's running Windows 10, J2020 latest and
Outlook 2016.?
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?I have a JAWS + Outlook
question for you. Do you have any information on how I can make JAWS and Outlook
interact more smoothly? Each time I arrow up or down in the inbox, I have to
press the JAWS key + the up arrow in order to get it to read the first line of
the message before I decide whether I want to open it or not. Is there a way to
get it to read just by arrowing up or down? Thanks for your help with
this.??
?
I don't use Outllook 2016 and
can't help him.? If anyone knows how to fix this, would you please give him
a hand?? It would be greatly appreciated.? Thanks
much.
Take care.? Mike.? Sent from my iBarstool.? Go dodgers! |
Misspelled attribute in speech and sounds scheme
开云体育
Hello everyone, First and foremost, I want to thank the owners and moderators of this list for making possible such a useful group. As ?a college student, I have to say that it’s very important for me being able to squeeze ?the best from Microsoft Word. Now to my point. ? As some of you may know, through the feature called speech and sounds schemes, we can set a particular scheme ?to have jaws announcing attributes with a different voice. However, no matter what I do, I just can’t make jaws announce the attribute misspelled word using a different voice. So, my question? is how to make this work? ? I’m using office 2019 and jaws 2020 latest compilation. ? Thanks for any info! Best, Leo ? |