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Re: for future reference
I'll allow Teams-related questions on this list. However, before I created this list I did create a separate list specifically for the discussion of Microsoft Teams. To join, you can send an email to
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[email protected] Teams is still a relatively new program and I knew that many people would likely have questions surrounding its use. At the time I had no idea that I'd be setting up a general Office list. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 9/11/2020 7:18 PM, Jason White via groups.io wrote:
Microsoft Teams may also qualify. It’s definitely part of Microsoft 365, which is the successor to Office 365.On Sep 10, 2020, at 17:49, Brad Snyder <wbsjr@...> wrote: --
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Re: Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10
开云体育Hello, ??? I have I downloaded and in stalled the JAWS 2021 beta and have not had any issues with outlook part of Office 2019 on the desktop.? ? From Jacob Struiksma ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 10:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10 ? Hi all, ? I experience regular silences in JAWS 2020 also, but I’m not sure it is just in outlook. ? Try running Narator (control-windows-enter) and give it up to 10 seconds sometimes that kick starts the speech again. If that works, then just toggle Narator off again . ? Just a trick I stumbled on that often works. Regards Susan ? ? From:
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On Behalf Of 6217naz@... ? Hello all, A lot of great information here. I have an issue where my JAWS goes silent or rather crashes whenever I try to read an email message. I minimize the window, sometimes JAWS restores function, sometimes I have to reopen JAWS. drew ? |
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Re: for future reference
开云体育Brad, Microsoft is planning to make Teams available for users of
Microsoft 365 subscriptions. I believe an iOS version is now
available but the Windows version is still not available for those
users. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 On 9/12/2020 12:48 AM, Brad Snyder
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Re: for future reference
开云体育I have a current subscription to Microsoft365 Professional, and access to Microsoft Teams is definitely NOT included.I have been able to join a meeting hosted by others, but my account does not allow me access on my own. My understanding is that access to Microsoft Teams is reserved for corporate accounts. ?Individuals do not have access to Teams, but may join meetings hosted by corporate users. - Brad - On Sep 11, 2020, at 18:18, Jason White via <jason@...> wrote: Microsoft Teams may also qualify. It’s definitely part of Microsoft 365, which is the successor to Office 365. On Sep 10, 2020, at 17:49, Brad Snyder <wbsjr@...> wrote: |
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Re: MS Office for Mac query
开云体育I have had positive experiences using Microsoft 365 programs on the Mac, especially Excel, Powerpoint, and Word. You may work using the ribbons as you would using a Windows Machine, or you may use the wonderful pulldown menus common to all Mac applications, with what I can tell, you have the same options as you would using the ribbons. Documentation on the Microsoft Office Accessibility pages is excellent. There is one key difference, depending on the kinds of tasks that you need to perform. As you may know, some Windows screen readers have their own proprietary commands to make tasks more efficient within Microsoft applications.? These screen reader specific hotkeys can save you lots of time.? They are not essential, but they can increase productivity quite a lot. You do not have those on the Mac but it is still possible to get things done without difficulty. Thanks.. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of HSG Director
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 4:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] MS Office for Mac query ? Greetings all ? Just wanted to find-out from the users how does Office for Mac accessibility and usability compares with JFW and Office in a Windows environment? I am an extensive user of Outlook, PowerPoint, Excel and Word looking to make an informed decision before switching to a Mac. ? I’d truly appreciate any useful feedback. Additionally, any suitably qualified trainers can contact me off list ? ? Many Thanks ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io ? Here’s the link. You need to select the Mac OS tab. Note also that the insider versions of Outlook for Mac (in the fast ring) offer a chance to try a new user interface that differs greatly from that of the production releases. However, the new user interface doesn’t yet offer all of the features of the old one, which is why it isn’t the default yet. You may wish to try it if you’re dissatisfied with the older version. ? Outlook for Mac works relatively well with Voiceover. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lisa Baker ? Does anyone know where I can get a list of outlook commands for the Mac? Lisa |
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Re: Automatically adding previously used addresses to the address book in Outlook2016
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I am thinking we may be confusing two different things There is a mechanism in outlook (determined by settings), which looks at sent messages and autofills the address fields as you type close to one that matches something in a previously sent message. this seems to be the default behaviour/setting. This is I suspect why people often think they have lost all their contacts when they re-install. This function is not using the contact which you have saved. One sure way to access that is using alt-K then down arrow to select, for check contacts after starting to type a name or address Regards Susan -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ricky Lomey Sent: Friday, 11 September 2020 5:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Automatically adding previously used addresses to the address book in Outlook2016 Hi all, Geetha, how did Outlook Express automatically add previously used addresses? I remember there was a setting where you could add an address by arrowing to add to address book, I think and then pressing enter, trying to remember the option directly above it, no, that just said address book, I think, I know there was also contacts which I never checked, thinking it's merely a duplication of the address book but when I typed an address in the to field that wasn't in the address book, it wasn't automatically there unless I think one could reply to all. I notice that in Outlook 2016, whenever I use an address and I type it nect time, it's there even though not in the address book, discovered that it's put into contacts, ctrl-y for go to folder and then to one's contacts folder or a quicker way I discovered by fluke once, I typed ctrl-n to do a new message ahdn then randomly typed f, can't remember what I was doing, I think trying to insert a plain text file or something, arrowed down and there I found some names that weren't in the address book yet though I'd used them, so you type ctrl-n and then any letter of the alphabet or number if the address starts with a number and arrow down till you find it, not sure if this helps and I usually delete such a contact until they reply and I then decide whether I want to use it again, in which case I open the message with enter, tab once and then do d for add to Outlook contacts and fill in the details and then tab to save. Many thanks. Ricky -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Geetha Shamanna Sent: Tuesday, 08 September 2020 21:52 To: [email protected] Subject: [office-accessibility] Automatically adding previously used addresses to the address book in Outlook2016 Hi all, Unlike Outlook Express, MS Outlook does not automatically add previously used addresses to the address book. IN Outlook2016, is there a setting that one can configure in order to get Outlook to do so? All the previously used addresses otherwise disappear when one migrates an email account and the corresponding .PST file to another computer. Many thanks. Geetha |
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Re: MS Office for Mac query
开云体育Greetings all ? Just wanted to find-out from the users how does Office for Mac accessibility and usability compares with JFW and Office in a Windows environment? I am an extensive user of Outlook, PowerPoint, Excel and Word looking to make an informed decision before switching to a Mac. ? I’d truly appreciate any useful feedback. Additionally, any suitably qualified trainers can contact me off list ? ? Many Thanks ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: 10 September 2020 18:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] outlook commands for mac ? Here’s the link. You need to select the Mac OS tab. Note also that the insider versions of Outlook for Mac (in the fast ring) offer a chance to try a new user interface that differs greatly from that of the production releases. However, the new user interface doesn’t yet offer all of the features of the old one, which is why it isn’t the default yet. You may wish to try it if you’re dissatisfied with the older version. ? Outlook for Mac works relatively well with Voiceover. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lisa Baker ? Does anyone know where I can get a list of outlook commands for the Mac? Lisa |
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Re: for future reference
Microsoft Teams may also qualify. It’s definitely part of Microsoft 365, which is the successor to Office 365.
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Re: Margin and paragraph questions regarding Word
Yes, typing enter alone starts a new paragraph. The details of how it’s formatted then depend on the paragraph style, which you can modify if necessary.
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Re: Outlook 2019
Ward,
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While I have read about software which can convert Thunderbird email messages into a format which can be recognized by Outlook I think it will be easier and possibly safer to just add the email account into Outlook. If the account uses the Imap protocol, which most do these days, then any email messages and email folders should get recreated as Outlook folders. The exception will be Thunderbird's local archive folder which, assuming that you've used it, doesn't get imported since that folder is specific to Thunderbird. However, all of your other email folders, along with any emails contained within those folders, will become available to you in Outlook without the need to install third party software. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 9/11/2020 4:28 PM, Ward Dudley wrote:
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Re: Possibly OT, having Dropbox issue
Chelsea
Apologies. It was resolved off-list. I may have future Word questions,
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however, so I'll keep that in mind. Chelsea On 9/11/20, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:
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Re: Possibly OT, having Dropbox issue
The topic of configuring Dropbox is off topic as Dropbox is not an Office application.
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David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 9/11/2020 10:54 AM, Chelsea wrote:
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Possibly OT, having Dropbox issue
Chelsea
Hi all,
As I say in the subject, I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I have a very important Dropbox question. I've officially started my job today, and they use a shared Dropbox folder. I've figured out how to get to the preferences and I've found out where the selective sync is, but I can not tell how to select a folder or subfolder, and I have no way of telling which folders/subfolders are selected. Jaws doesn't say anything. I need to sort this out asap, because I don't want everybody else's work synced with mine, etc. Thank you, Chelsea |
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Re: Margin and paragraph questions regarding Word
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On Sep 10, 2020, at 21:45, Rick <softwarethatworks@...> wrote: Hello Andre: I disagree with your comments regarding tabs in Microsoft Word. Tabs are controlled by a Tab stop dialog which is accessed within the format paragraph dialog (Alt+t). Tabs are not based on screen and printer resolution. Tab stops are based on units of measurement (here in the US, the default is a tab stop at every half inch). One can modify the tab stops on a paragraph by paragraph basis, allowing for precise alignment. However, in most cases, like tabular data, tables may be a more preferred method of aligning various columns of text. While I agree that using tabs in general is a practice that should be avoided, there are many places where tabs are quite beneficial. Word defines many different types of tab stops . Left Tab : Left-aligns the text at the tab stop. . Center Tab : Centers the text around the tab stop. . Right Tab : Right-aligns the text at the tab stop. . Decimal Tab : Aligns decimal numbers using the decimal point. . Bar Tab : Draws a vertical line on the document. Imagine that you want to create a header or footer in your document and you have three fields to display (document title, page number, and version). Using the various types of tab stops, you can left align the title, center the page number, and right-align the version, all in one line. While you can do this with a table, a table introduces arbitrary widths to the fields that are not encountered when using tab stops. To understand Word and paragraphs, Word identifies anything ending with a Return (Enter) as a paragraph. This includes a block of text, a single item in a list, a heading or title, and even a blank line. Word offers a plethora of items that can be customized on a font and paragraph basis, including font size, color, style (bold, italic, strikethrough, etc.) and paragraph indent or outdent, paragraph spacing, numbers and bullets, etc. ?The real key is that if one is serious about using Word in a professional environment, modifying individual paragraphs or performing a select all and applying formatting changes is a abysmal process. Word provides a powerful feature known as styles accessible from the Home ribbon. Many Word documents are composed of text that are formatted differently based upon their intent. For example, captions for tables and figures, bulleted and numbered lists, hierarchal lists, heading, table of contents, etc. Selecting all and performing holistic paragraph and font changes can dramatically impact a document. Styles provide a way to compartmentalize changes to a particular feature and can be used to quickly modify the look and feel of a document without impacting any of its structure. Imagine you are tasked with changing the font of only paragraphs in a document (and not any of the captions, table of content entries, heading, or title). On a one page document, this is probably not difficult, but on a 300 page document, this would be a daunting task if one had to go and modify every paragraph that contained content. If all those paragraphs were the same style, a single change to the style would change the entire document. NVA provides a mechanism to announce styles in its Document formatting dialog (NVDA + Alt + d). There are many good references on the web describing how to use styles in Word, and many books devote one or more chapters to the topic. I will not try to repeat that information here, but am willing to answer individual questions. The real key to learning the intricacies of Word is a willingness to experiment and explore that vast features offered and to ask Google, Bing, or this group when you get stuck. Be sure, when asking Google or Bing, that you add the words screen reader (or screen magnifier) as part of your search. Regards, rick. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andre Polykanine via Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 6:05 PM To: Chelsea <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Margin and paragraph questions regarding Word Hi Chelsea, Enter yes, but not Tab. Enter ?does ?separate one paragraph from another, that's true. but the size of a tab is changeable even on one system, and it does depend on screen resolution, printer's DPI and so on and so forth. That's why I told ?you not ?to ?use ?tabs ?nor ?spaces anywhere when formatting is involved. -- With best regards, Andre Munich, Germany Skype: menelion_elensule Twitter (English only): @AndrePolykanine ------------ Original message ------------ From: Chelsea <Lady.arwen15@...> To: [email protected] Date created: , 11:56:56 PM Subject: [office-accessibility] Margin and paragraph questions regarding Word ?????Hi Andre and all, So how does Word know one paragraph from the other if I'm not supposed to use tabs or spaces? My editor specifically told me to press enter followed by tab to get a new paragraph. Thanks, Chelsea On 9/9/20, Andre Polykanine via <andre@...> wrote: Hello Chelsea, |
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Re: How to run an accessible compare documents with Word
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There is a compare feature in Word that is accessible via the Review ribbon (Alt+r followed by m. This feature has improved as Office evolves. In its early days (office 2013 and earlier) it had numerous problems, but in Office 365, it is quite usable. This brings up a dialog that allows you to choose 2 documents to compare and will generate a comparison with changes highlighted as if someone enabled track changes. The first thing I do after performing this comparison is to save the compared results into a new document , close Word, and then reopen the compared document. It now appears as a document with tracked changes. Word also provides a feature to merge changes from multiple authors, but I have never tried this feature so I am unable to comment on its usability. Rick -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andre Polykanine via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 5:58 PM To: Chelsea <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] How to run an accessible compare documents with Word Hello again Chelsea, I might be wrong but it seems, there's no usable way to compare two Word documents if you're blind. What you can do however (and it's a more correct way to proceed, I should say) is to ask your editor or whatever person changing your document to turn on track changes. That can be done either on the Review ribbon, in the Tracking submenu, or just by pressing Ctrl+Shift+E. Thus, when he or she sends you the document back, you will hear different revisions in the document. That works great with JAWS, but I heard NVDA also does work. -- With best regards, Andre Munich, Germany Skype: menelion_elensule Twitter (English only): @AndrePolykanine ------------ Original message ------------ From: Chelsea <Lady.arwen15@...> To: [email protected] Date created: , 10:24:54 PM Subject: [office-accessibility] How to run an accessible compare documents with Word Hello, Another crucial part of my job involves running compares on documents. I have my completed work, and I receive another document with revisions in it. How do I compare the two so that I know what the revisions are? Thanks, Chelsea |
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Re: Margin and paragraph questions regarding Word
Hello Andre:
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I disagree with your comments regarding tabs in Microsoft Word. Tabs are controlled by a Tab stop dialog which is accessed within the format paragraph dialog (Alt+t). Tabs are not based on screen and printer resolution. Tab stops are based on units of measurement (here in the US, the default is a tab stop at every half inch). One can modify the tab stops on a paragraph by paragraph basis, allowing for precise alignment. However, in most cases, like tabular data, tables may be a more preferred method of aligning various columns of text. While I agree that using tabs in general is a practice that should be avoided, there are many places where tabs are quite beneficial. Word defines many different types of tab stops . Left Tab : Left-aligns the text at the tab stop. . Center Tab : Centers the text around the tab stop. . Right Tab : Right-aligns the text at the tab stop. . Decimal Tab : Aligns decimal numbers using the decimal point. . Bar Tab : Draws a vertical line on the document. Imagine that you want to create a header or footer in your document and you have three fields to display (document title, page number, and version). Using the various types of tab stops, you can left align the title, center the page number, and right-align the version, all in one line. While you can do this with a table, a table introduces arbitrary widths to the fields that are not encountered when using tab stops. To understand Word and paragraphs, Word identifies anything ending with a Return (Enter) as a paragraph. This includes a block of text, a single item in a list, a heading or title, and even a blank line. Word offers a plethora of items that can be customized on a font and paragraph basis, including font size, color, style (bold, italic, strikethrough, etc.) and paragraph indent or outdent, paragraph spacing, numbers and bullets, etc. The real key is that if one is serious about using Word in a professional environment, modifying individual paragraphs or performing a select all and applying formatting changes is a abysmal process. Word provides a powerful feature known as styles accessible from the Home ribbon. Many Word documents are composed of text that are formatted differently based upon their intent. For example, captions for tables and figures, bulleted and numbered lists, hierarchal lists, heading, table of contents, etc. Selecting all and performing holistic paragraph and font changes can dramatically impact a document. Styles provide a way to compartmentalize changes to a particular feature and can be used to quickly modify the look and feel of a document without impacting any of its structure. Imagine you are tasked with changing the font of only paragraphs in a document (and not any of the captions, table of content entries, heading, or title). On a one page document, this is probably not difficult, but on a 300 page document, this would be a daunting task if one had to go and modify every paragraph that contained content. If all those paragraphs were the same style, a single change to the style would change the entire document. NVA provides a mechanism to announce styles in its Document formatting dialog (NVDA + Alt + d). There are many good references on the web describing how to use styles in Word, and many books devote one or more chapters to the topic. I will not try to repeat that information here, but am willing to answer individual questions. The real key to learning the intricacies of Word is a willingness to experiment and explore that vast features offered and to ask Google, Bing, or this group when you get stuck. Be sure, when asking Google or Bing, that you add the words screen reader (or screen magnifier) as part of your search. Regards, rick. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andre Polykanine via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 6:05 PM To: Chelsea <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Margin and paragraph questions regarding Word Hi Chelsea, Enter yes, but not Tab. Enter does separate one paragraph from another, that's true. but the size of a tab is changeable even on one system, and it does depend on screen resolution, printer's DPI and so on and so forth. That's why I told you not to use tabs nor spaces anywhere when formatting is involved. -- With best regards, Andre Munich, Germany Skype: menelion_elensule Twitter (English only): @AndrePolykanine ------------ Original message ------------ From: Chelsea <Lady.arwen15@...> To: [email protected] Date created: , 11:56:56 PM Subject: [office-accessibility] Margin and paragraph questions regarding Word Hi Andre and all, So how does Word know one paragraph from the other if I'm not supposed to use tabs or spaces? My editor specifically told me to press enter followed by tab to get a new paragraph. Thanks, Chelsea On 9/9/20, Andre Polykanine via groups.io <andre@...> wrote: Hello Chelsea, |
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Re: for future reference
开云体育Marilyn asked: >>Is OneDrive a part of Office?
You guys really do keep me on my toes. ? I did a double take
with this question because Office 365 does provide a terabyte of
storage space with OneDrive and so it could be argued that since
more people might use OneDrive as a result of purchasing Microsoft
365 that we should permit OneDrive discussions on this list.
However, technically OneDrive is not part of Office and so I'd
like to keep OneDrive discussions to a minimum. However, it is
reasonable that someone might want to know about strategies to
efficiently save their Word documents or their Excel spreadsheets
to a folder on OneDrive or, for that matter, on Dropbox and, in
that context, I think discussions along those lines are fine.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 On 9/10/2020 5:54 PM, Marilyn Rushton
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Re: for future reference
开云体育Is OneDrive a part of Office? ? Marilyn. ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] for future reference ? I’m not the Admin, but MS Office components are Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Access, Publisher and OneNote. I think that’s it. ? Microsoft Edge is a web-browser, but not an Office component. ? Google Chrome is not even a Microsoft product.
? On Sep 10, 2020, at 16:34, Ann Foxworth <annfoxworth@...> wrote: ? Maybe the admin can let us know which MS products are not a part of office. I, for one, am ignorant on this subject. ? ? Ann Foxworth ? From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?Brad Snyder ? What does this have to do with MS Office???
? On Sep 10, 2020, at 13:16, Ricky Lomey <rickyl@...> wrote: ? Hi list ? ? |
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Re: for future reference
开云体育I’m not the Admin, but MS Office components are Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Access, Publisher and OneNote.I think that’s it. Microsoft Edge is a web-browser, but not an Office component. Google Chrome is not even a Microsoft product. - Brad - On Sep 10, 2020, at 16:34, Ann Foxworth <annfoxworth@...> wrote: Maybe the admin can let us know which MS products are not a part of office. I, for one, am ignorant on this subject. ? ? Ann Foxworth ? From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?Brad Snyder Sent:?Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:23 PM To:?[email protected] Subject:?Re: [office-accessibility] How to find an extension in Google Chrome ? What does this have to do with MS Office???
? On Sep 10, 2020, at 13:16, Ricky Lomey <rickyl@...> wrote: ? Hi list ? |