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Problem description with ADG511 switch


 

Hi,

I have uploaded a file 'Test_switch_ADG511.zip' in 'Files/Temp/' containing problem description with LTSpice simulation for an ADG511 switch. The switch is not behaving the way it is supposed to. More details can be found inside the zip folder in 'Notes.txt' file. I would appreciate if someone takes a look at it.

Thanks
Naim


 

Hello Naim,

Hello Naim,
I have checked your uploaded netlist.

This model requires a logic supply voltage VL (pin 12) connected to Vdd. It's a mistake from ADI when they made this subcircuit. This pin is NC on the real IC. Especially older analog-switch ICs required? this VL for the internal logic circuit of the IC, but not ADG511, ADG512, ADG513.

Required change of X1
X1 IN1 D1 S1 Vss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Vdd Vdd 0 0 0 ADG511¡À5 ; using switch 1 only, VL connected!

The ADG511 switches will be on, if IN1 is 0V.
If you want it in on-state, then set Vin1 to 0.
Vin1 IN1 0 0.0 Rser=.2 Cpar=1p??? ??? ; control pin, 0 V => on, 5 V => off

I have uploaded a schematic example using the symbol DIP16, because a schematic is much easier to understand the circuit.
ADG511_test.zip

Just unzip this file anywhere. You can then immediately simulate my example.

Please report this "wrong" pin VL in the interface of the model of ADG511DS.CIR to ADI. They may have made the same mistake with all variants of ADG511, ADG512 and ADG513. The email address is below.
LTspice@...

Best regards,
Helmut

Excerpt from the subcircuit. Watch VL(pin 12). Pin-12 used in the subcircuit.

* Node assignments
*????????????????? IN1
*????????????????? | D1
*????????????????? | | S1
*????????????????? | | | VSS
*????????????????? | | | | GND
*????????????????? | | | | | S4
*????????????????? | | | | | | D4
*????????????????? | | | | | | | IN4
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | IN3
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | D3
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? S3
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? VL
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? |? VDD
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? |? |? S2
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? |? |? |? D2
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? |? |? |? |? IN2
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? |? |? |? |? |
.SUBCKT ADG511¡À5?? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16


 

Hi Helmut,

Thanks a lot for pointing out the issue and the schematic example. I could never find it out by myself. As a newbie, I was having issues converting the subcircuit to a symbol too. Also thanks for the GNUplot script, which I don't know how to use at this point but will dig into it definitely.

From the subcircuit description of the switch, I could feel something fishy is going on with pin 12, so I connected it to GND once but no luck. I'm glad I didn't solve it myself otherwise I wouldn't find this group out. Such an active community full of experts!

Thanks again. I'll reach out if I have any issue in future for sure.

Naim
P.S. You're correct that they've made the same mistake in all the variants of the switches. I'll inform ADI about that.


On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:29 PM helmutsennewald@... [LTspice] <LTspice@...> wrote:
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Hello Naim,

Hello Naim,
I have checked your uploaded netlist.

This model requires a logic supply voltage VL (pin 12) connected to Vdd. It's a mistake from ADI when they made this subcircuit. This pin is NC on the real IC. Especially older analog-switch ICs required? this VL for the internal logic circuit of the IC, but not ADG511, ADG512, ADG513.

Required change of X1
X1 IN1 D1 S1 Vss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Vdd Vdd 0 0 0 ADG511¡À5 ; using switch 1 only, VL connected!

The ADG511 switches will be on, if IN1 is 0V.
If you want it in on-state, then set Vin1 to 0.
Vin1 IN1 0 0.0 Rser=.2 Cpar=1p??? ??? ; control pin, 0 V => on, 5 V => off

I have uploaded a schematic example using the symbol DIP16, because a schematic is much easier to understand the circuit.
ADG511_test.zip

Just unzip this file anywhere. You can then immediately simulate my example.

Please report this "wrong" pin VL in the interface of the model of ADG511DS.CIR to ADI. They may have made the same mistake with all variants of ADG511, ADG512 and ADG513. The email address is below.

Best regards,
Helmut

Excerpt from the subcircuit. Watch VL(pin 12). Pin-12 used in the subcircuit.

* Node assignments
*????????????????? IN1
*????????????????? | D1
*????????????????? | | S1
*????????????????? | | | VSS
*????????????????? | | | | GND
*????????????????? | | | | | S4
*????????????????? | | | | | | D4
*????????????????? | | | | | | | IN4
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | IN3
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | D3
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? S3
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? VL
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? |? VDD
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? |? |? S2
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? |? |? |? D2
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? |? |? |? |? IN2
*????????????????? | | | | | | | | | |? |? |? |? |? |? |
.SUBCKT ADG511¡À5?? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16


 

Hello Naim,

> Also thanks for the GNUplot script, ...

This ".plt" file is the plot settings file of LTspiceXVII. It contains the plot settings for future simulations. It has nothing todo with Gnuplot.

Plot Settings -> Save Plot Settings


Best regards,
Helmut


 

Hi Helmut,

I see. Now I'm getting how the plots appear automatically. It's helpful. Thanks for clearing that up.

Thanks
Naim


On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 5:11 PM helmutsennewald@... [LTspice] <LTspice@...> wrote:
?

Hello Naim,

> Also thanks for the GNUplot script, ...

This ".plt" file is the plot settings file of LTspiceXVII. It contains the plot settings for future simulations. It has nothing todo with Gnuplot.

Plot Settings -> Save Plot Settings


Best regards,
Helmut