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LTspice models do not work in Qspice
开云体育On 19/04/2025 10:20, suded emmanuel via
groups.io wrote:
Most (SPICE) simulators use the same general syntax, but all or most simulators have features that are not supported in all the others. Some features in LTspice are proprietary and hence not available in other simulators. Examples of uniqueness include VDMOS models and anything that uses an A-device, like UniversalOpamps or logic gates. There may also be a few functions that are not portable. However, unless you disclose which models you are referring to, it's not possible to comment further. If you're wanting to use QSPICE, perhaps you should ask in a QSPICE group. Perhaps it has an LTspice to QSPICE converter, I don't know. --
Regards, Tony |
开云体育On 19/04/2025 10:24, suded emmanuel via
groups.io wrote:
That's not very helpful unless you provide an example. --
Regards, Tony |
开云体育On 19/04/2025 10:46, suded emmanuel via
groups.io wrote:
Can I upload the .subckt file?Of course. Go to Files > Temp and click on the New/Upload button. It would also be helpful if you could also provide a schematic that (successfully) uses the .subckt, and any other files that are not provided with LTspice. Put them in a zip, and upload that. Don't forget to send another message if/when you do that. --
Regards, Tony |
The QSPICE group is currently locked. The Qorvo website has some QSPICE support resources which may provide an answer to your question. DaveD KC0WJN On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 04:35 Tony Casey via <antoniustrevorum=[email protected]> wrote:
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开云体育On 19/04/2025 11:29, suded emmanuel via
groups.io wrote:
UCC27282 symbol is missing. According to your schematic file, it is in your "AutoGenerated" folder. You should copy that to the schematic folder, and edit the symbol ModelFile attribute to remove the hard-coded path. However I can see in your schematic that you have used "standard" LTspice VDMOS models. As I said previously, these are not portable. I also don't see .subckt PROP_DELAY. Did you upload the wrong file? --
Regards, Tony |
Hi Tony,
In the example I uploaded I used BSZ076N06NS3 N-ch MOSFET?
But in Qspice I used IRFR7446 mosfet which I generated the model for in Qspice that is all good, but I think the error is with regards to the UCC27282 model and not the mosfet!
Anyway the uploaded .zip file should work in LTspice, but Qspice is giving me an error:
Fatal error: No such subcircuit: COMPHYS_BASIC_GEN
"COMPHYS_BASIC_GEN" is the 4th line written in the model after ".SUBCKT" command line, could it be the format (sytntax) needs to be written differently?
The reason why I want to run the Qspice simulation to see it simulates faster than LTspice!?
Regards,
Suded
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开云体育On 19/04/2025 13:00, suded emmanuel via
groups.io wrote:
Well, we can't run it because you have not uploaded the missing/changed files. The syntax for COMPHYS_BASIC_GEN seems normal. Many TI models use a similar methodology - they are often made using the PSpice model tool, and they normally work OK in LTspice. The only thing I wonder is whether the PARAMS: VDD=1 VSS=0 VTHRESH=0.5 syntax is accepted in QSPICE. But since I don't use QSPICE, I couldn't test it, anyway. Perhaps you could try changing it from: .SUBCKT COMPHYS_BASIC_GEN INP INM HYS OUT PARAMS: VDD=1 VSS=0 VTHRESH=0.5 .. .. ..to: .SUBCKT COMPHYS_BASIC_GEN INP INM HYS OUT .PARAM VDD 1 .PARAM VSS 0 .PARAM VTHRESH 0.5 .. .. If that works, I guess it will then throw up similar errors in turn for all the other .subckts that use the same syntax - they will need the same fix. If that does doesn't work, I give up. I suggest you ask for help from the QSPICE forum. Similar compatibility questions have been asked there before, right from day one. You can't reasonably expect much help for QSPICE from a group "dedicated to LTspice". -- Regards, Tony |
On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 04:24 AM, suded emmanuel wrote:
If you have that kind of error, it means you forgot to include the subcircuit whose name is "PROP_DELAY".? That would almost definitely be a subcircuit that you made, and that you called from your schematic, which you forgot to include in the QSPICE simulation. ?
Having "PROP_DELAY" in the 1st line of a .subckt model is meaningless.? Why not tell us EXACTLY what that line looked like?? Also, check to see how that subcircuit is imported into the simulation - or more likely, not imported into it, since that seems to be the problem.
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On this basis, I'd say this has nothing to do with compatibility of models in QSPICE.? You simply forgot to load or include the model.
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Andy
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On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 06:15 AM, suded emmanuel wrote:
In what way is it "objecting" to that line? ?
Why do you have that line in your simulation?? Is that the name of a capacitor?? It starts with a C so it must be.? Is it a comment line that you forgot to make into a comment?
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These snippets about errors are not very helpful without more context.
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Andy
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