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But whatabout vista?
I do not know about you guys, but I hate to putz around with computers. These are just tools, hammers so to speak, and I expect them to behave as such. For your general knowledge? ALL 16 of my computers are still running VISTA. I have invested too much in my software tools, money,time to understand and so on to go out on a whim of some marketing guy that prompts me to upgrade to his last contraption. Been there, done that! And now comes LTC (or shell I say ANALOG) with a new, 'improved" version of heir otherwise decent simulator. And Guess what! It does not find it's own files!? HALAL as one of my friends said :) And so, one more company,LTC, beats the dust. A pity.there is noplace any more for engineering. Just Marketing, Marinating, MARKETING. And hold on to your hats jents. Very soon, to add insult to injury, you will have to pay for it! G. G. |
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?I have Windows version 1.? Do you think LTspice works with it?? Should I blast someone at LTC for daring to come up with a program that doesn't?? Does this mean that LTC beats the dust? (or did you mean bites the dust? he-he) ?And, as you imply, does this mean LTC didn't ever do any engineering? And what about Windows 3.1?? Are you still running it?? Do all your latest programs run on it? Heck, does it irk you that LTspice -- any version -- isn't compatible with DOS 2.11? Andy ? |
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Gunoi Nare
As a mater of fact? Andy, I do still run 3.1. on an old 8MHz DELL AT Computer. It is my127 channel logic analyzer. Resolution of 100pS. Did you see how much something like this kosts? now-a-days? Why shel i scrap it? So? Mr.Gates & Co. get richer? You might own an oil well in the back yard but I assure you I do not. The other days I visited my dentist.? He makes an "Digital Xray' of? my hurting tooth. A space agedigital machine all bells and whistles. "Well he said All is OK I can not determine the cause of your pain." Doc, I said do you still have the 40Year Xray machine, the one that uses film? Yes,but this one,the digital one is 100 times better. Doc,lets make a picture on the old machine. When all was said and done, he exclaimed; Zum teufel... I did not expect this. There was right there in front of him a crack no larger than 250uM. how can you explain to a doctor the notion of resolution,sampling rate and so on. And this is why I stil? keep my HP114t. they do not make thinks like this any more. And for Helmut. Yes I did try VIII on Vista. All my work is done on vista. G
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It would seem reasonable for Mike to provide a short explanation of the
technical reasons for not providing compatibility with XP (would it have
been that costly?).
A significant part of the world still runs XP because the economics of replacing perfectly good hardware with something that will support 7,8, or 10. It is not a trivial expense for a good part of the world, and detractors? don't seem to understand that. Rick |
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John Woodgate
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSurely LTspice IV runs on XP and will continue to do so. As I understand it, the new graphics engine in XVII doesn't work on those legacy versions of Windows, which is hardly a surprise. ? With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO ¨C Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England ? Sylvae in aeternum manent. ? From: LTspice@... [mailto:LTspice@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 9:57 PM To: LTspice@... Subject: [LTspice] Re: No XP? ? ? It would seem reasonable for Mike to provide a short explanation of the technical reasons for not providing compatibility with XP (would it have been that costly?). |
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On 8/7/16 4:56 PM, ricksbmw@... [LTspice] wrote:
While I can't speak for Mike, I can say that often such restrictions are based on the tools used to build the program. Since XP is (past) EOL, many tools don't support generating new programs for it. Since LTSpiceVII is avail for 64 bits, it likely is using a newer tool than LTSpiceIV, and that might not support XP. -- Richard Damon |
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?? Many Linux users dual-boot with Windows for the few Windows programs? without Linux equivalents (Intuit, I'm talking to you). Maybe someone who's locked into XP could try dual-booting with Linux to run LTspice and let us know how it goes. ?? Craig On Aug 7, 2016 5:23 PM, "Richard Damon richard@... [LTspice]" <LTspice@...> wrote:
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Craig wrote: ? ?" ? Maybe someone who's locked into XP could try dual-booting with Linux to run LTspice and let us know how it goes."I'm pretty sure at least two people here have already reported that LTspiceXVII does run in Linux with Wine emulating XP. I contend that Wine emulating XP is not 100% the same as Microsoft Windows XP, so to me at least, it's not surprising if it runs differently on an XP-emulator than on XP itself. Andy |
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Hello Gunoiar
You wrote : "No XP?..........and so on to go out on a whim of some marketing guy that prompts me to upgrade to his last contraption. Been there, done that! And now comes LTC (or shell I say ANALOG) with a new, 'improved" version of heir otherwise decent simulator." That don't seem to be very reasonable. Regards PhB |
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I am seriously concerned about the implications of this thread, I only use XP as it is compatible with all my other tools, does not randomly crash/freeze up and is no longer patched/botched by microsoft so is actually stable. I have no intention of installing later malware into my machines. I don't care about running the latest & greatest LTspice either but will the XT compatible IV continue to be available and do I have to prevent LTspice updates to avoid an automatic XVII installation ?
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Hello iamrogerholden
You wrote : "....and do I have to prevent LTspice updates to avoid an automatic XVII installation ?" I have tried to install LTspice XVII under Vista (I have not XP) : Nothing happens when I ran the installation program. LTspice IV and LTspice XVII installation programs are two different programs. So I think you have nothing to fear about. But only Linear Technology can answer you. Regards PhB |
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iamrogerholden?wrote: ? ?"will the XT compatible IV continue to be available" If you read what Linear Tech has to say about it (on the webpage where you can download both programs), you should have caught this sentence: ? ?"Windows XP users can run LTspice IV, which will still be available in observance of Linear Technology Corporation's zero obsolescence tradition." Also, you wrote: ? ?"do I have to prevent LTspice updates to avoid an automatic XVII installation ?" They are two separate and distinct programs.? I think there is no chance of LTspiceIV trying to install a different program (LTspiceXVII) in its place.? Especially when LTspiceIV continues to be supported, and the XVII installer is smart enough to know not to try to install itself on XP. Andy |
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John..."64-bit WINE" should work on all linux variants at this point.? NO...I don't know of any additional software
XP may need to get it to function with "Vista-like 32-bit applications".? There is a SP4 (service pack 4) for XP most people may not know about.? It is from a Windows Hobbyist in Italy, see: W. Warren ? |
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Gunoi Nare
Well said. Live Long and Prosper. G.
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Gunoi Nare
A better solution would be to Install VBOX from ORACLE. G.
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