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IR2153 Model

 

Hi, I downloaded the IR2153 Model from the Library but I have an issue when trying to run?the simulation?

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I get a message saying:

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Could not open library file "Dead_Time.sub"

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I can't seem to find this file or fix the problem, so I was wondering if someone could help me please.

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I was hoping for a IR2155 Model if someone has one?

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Donna

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Donna wrote:

? "Hi, I downloaded the IR2153 Model from the Library but I have an issue when trying to run the simulation?
? I get a message saying:
? Could not open library file "Dead_Time.sub"
? I can't seem to find this file or fix the problem, so I was wondering if someone could help me please."

Unzip the file. ?The contents need to go in the same directory (folder) where your schematics are. ?Do not attempt to put them anywhere in or under LTspice's libraries, nor anywhere in Windows' "Program Files" directory tree.

Regards,
Andy
 

Hi Andy,

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Thanks for the reply.

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Yes I have the schematic in the same folder as the model files but still no luck.

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I get the same problem when I try to run the IR2153_IC asc supplied with the model files.

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I get a text document error:

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Fatal Error: Could not open library file "Dead_Time.sub"

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Not sure what to do, could you try the model & the asc & see how you go with it?

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I would like to get it working if I can.

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Donna

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John Woodgate
 

In message <l9kqs5+kbtnei@...>, dated Fri, 27 Dec 2013, seenthis1@... writes:

Fatal Error: Could not open library file "Dead_Time.sub"
Can you see a file called that in the folder where you have the .asc? If it was not in a .zip archive that you downloaded, the problem is that the zip is incomplete - it does occasionally happen.

I can't find it anywhere.

Maybe Helmut can tell you where to find it.
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John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
 

Hi John,

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No, there is no file called "Dead_Time.sub" in the downloaded zip file.

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Any help locating this file would be appreciated.

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Donna
 

Hi John,

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No, there is no file called "Dead_Time.sub" in the downloaded zip file.

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Any help locating this file would be appreciated.

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Donna
 

Sorry; when I saw your first message, I didn't notice the name of the model it was looking for was "Dead_Time.sub".

The question about "Dead_Time.sub" has come up before. ?The problem is unresolved. ?The model you are trying to use was uploaded in 2010 by "Christian Mascov" (christian_mascov @ ), who was and still is a member of this group but has not actively participated since 2010. ?It appears he may have created the IR2153 model himself. ?Someone else commented that the logic inside his model differs from the IR2153 datasheet,
and that it may lack the parasitic elements that IRF used in their own SPICE models for similar parts,
so it is questionable whether it would work right, even if you had the "Dead_Time.sub".

The short answer is, you are out of luck with that particular model. ?There is no "Dead_Time.sub". ?Christian forgot to upload it. ?A Google search only turns up questions from other people also looking for that file.

Andy
 

A few other suggestions:

There are SPICE models for other IR21xx driver components (not the IR2155) which you might try. ?You can find them in the Files section of this group. ?IRF also has a collection on their website of their own SPICE models for many of their parts. ?You might browse through it to see if anything looks suitable. ?I have no idea if any of them are similar enough to the IR2153 or IR2155. ?To me, they are just part numbers.

In 2011, someone here suggested the MAX485 as a possible replacement "self-oscillating half bridge driver" with a working SPICE model.

Andy
 

Thanks Andy,

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I will try a few of your suggestions.

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Thank You

Donna
 

Thanks Andy,

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Yes, the IR2153 Model seems questionable at best.

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I will try some of your suggestions.

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Thank You.

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Donna?
 

Hi Donna.
I found myself in the file "ir2153_131.zip". But it, too, was not complete. It does not contain the necessary models. I have an extensive library of models, but I had to add it to the diode model. I ran a test electronic circuitry. The model appeared to be functional. Here it is:

* Model IR2153* (C)TAU 2009, (C) KaV 2010
.subckt IR2153 Vcc Rt Ct COM VB HO VS LO
R5 ARB3_N1 Rt 100
Rdead ARB3_N2 ARB4_OUT 1k
Cdead ARB3_N2 COM 1.8n
RdlyH CdlyH_P ARB5_OUT 1k
CdlyH CdlyH_P COM 910p
RdlyL CdlyL_P ARB3_OUT 1k
CdlyL CdlyL_P COM 910p
GARB1 Vcc COM VALUE={(75u+500u*(V(Vcc,COM)>8)+5m*exp(10*
+ (V(Vcc,COM)-15.6)))*(V(Vcc,COM)>1)}
* Micropower startup VCC supply current 75u
* Quiescent VCC supply current 500u;
* VCC zener clamp voltage 15.6V On ICC = 5mA
EARB2 ARB3_N1 COM VALUE={V(ARB7_N1,COM)*(((V(Ct,COM)
+ <(V(ARB7_N1,COM)*2/3)) & (V(ARB3_N1,COM)>4)) | ((V(Ct,COM)
+ <(V(ARB7_N1,COM)/3)) & (V(ARB3_N1,COM)<3)))}
EARB3 ARB3_OUT COM VALUE={5*( V(ARB3_N1,COM)>8 &
+ V(ARB3_N2,COM)>2.5 )* (V(ARB3_N3,COM)>2.5)}
EARB4 ARB4_OUT COM VALUE={5*( V(ARB3_N1,COM)>0.1
+ & V(Ct,COM)>V(ARB3_N1,COM)/3)}
EARB5 ARB5_OUT COM VALUE={5*( V(ARB3_N1,COM)<8 & V(ARB3_N2,COM)
+ <2.5 & V(ARB7_N1,COM)>1)}
EARB6 ARB7_N1 COM VALUE={V(Vcc,COM)*((V(Vcc,COM)>8 &
+ V(ARB7_N1,COM)>0.2)|(V(Vcc,COM)>9 & V(ARB7_N1,COM)<0.1))}
* VCC undervoltage lockout Hysteresis
EARB7 ARB3_N3 COM VALUE={4*( V(Ct,COM)>V(ARB7_N1,COM)/6)} ; * for Inhibit LO in SD mode
GARB8 Ct COM VALUE={(V(ARB7_N1,COM)<1)*0.8m*( V(Ct,COM)>0.1)}
* ICTUV UV-mode CT pin pulldown current 0.8mA
.IC V(Ct)=0 V(LO)=0; * V(Vs)=0; * V(COM)
S1 HO VS CdlyH_P COM SVL
S2 VB HO CdlyH_P COM SVH
S3 Vcc LO CdlyL_P COM SVH
S4 LO COM CdlyL_P COM SVL
D1 LO Vcc DM
D2 COM LO DM
D3 HO VB DM
D4 VS HO DM
.MODEL SVH VSWITCH (RON=35 ROFF=1Meg VON=2.5 VOFF=2.45)
.MODEL SVL VSWITCH (RON=18 ROFF=.1meg VON=2.45 VOFF=2.5)
.model DM D(Ron=1 Roff=1Meg Vfwd=.5 Vrev=25)
.ends IR2153

Bordodynov.
 

Hi Bordodynov,

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Thank you very much for the model, I will test it out & get back to you.

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Thanks for your time.

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Donna

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