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TRIAC model


 

Hello,

I'm trying to have a working TRIAC model on LTSpice.

From www.teccor.com I got the following model that I saved to a file called triac.sub. I've put this file on lib\sub folder. On the squematic I've put the ".INCLUDE triac.sub" Spice directive.


*=========================*
* TECCOR TRIACS *
* Triac pinout: MT2 G MT1 *
*=========================*

*SRC=Q8025R5;Q8025R5;TRIACS;TECCOR;800V 25A
*SYM=TRIAC
.SUBCKT Q8025R5 1 2 3
* TERMINALS: MT2 G MT1
QN1 5 4 3 NOUT OFF
QN2 11 6 7 NOUT OFF
QP1 6 11 3 POUT OFF
QP2 4 5 7 POUT OFF
DF 4 5 DZ OFF
DR 6 11 DZ OFF
RF 4 6 8MEG
RT2 1 7 25.4M
RH 7 6 5.25
RGP 8 3 12
RG 2 8 5.8
RS 8 4 1.2
DN 9 2 DIN OFF
RN 9 3 6.12
GNN 6 7 9 3 0.554
GNP 4 5 9 3 0.705
DP 2 10 DIP OFF
RP 10 3 3.56
GP 7 6 10 3 0.373
.MODEL DIN D (IS=764F)
.MODEL DIP D (IS=764F N=1.19)
.MODEL DZ D (IS=764F N=1.5 IBV=100U BV=800)
.MODEL POUT PNP (IS=764F BF=5 CJE=1.12N TF=102U)
.MODEL NOUT NPN (IS=764F BF=20 CJE=1.12N CJC=223P TF=6.8U)
.ENDS



But everytime I try to start the simulation I got the message:
SPICE Error
Too many parameters for subcircuit type "q8025r5"(instance: xu1)

On the "Component Attribute Editor" I have:
Prefix X
InstName U1
SpiceModel triac
Value Q8025R5
Value2 <none>
SpiceLine <none>
SliceLine2 <none>

Please, I need help.

Thanks,

Brusque
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<brusque.listas@c...> wrote:
Hello,

I'm trying to have a working TRIAC model on LTSpice.

From www.teccor.com I got the following model that I saved to
a
file called triac.sub. I've put this file on lib&#92;sub folder. On the
squematic I've put the ".INCLUDE triac.sub" Spice directive.
Hello Brusque,
you were faster with your second posting as I could answer your first
one. I wanted to recommend the teccor company too.


But everytime I try to start the simulation I got the message:
SPICE Error
Too many parameters for subcircuit type "q8025r5"(instance:
xu1)

On the "Component Attribute Editor" I have:
Prefix X
InstName U1
SpiceModel triac
Value Q8025R5
Value2 <none>
SpiceLine <none>
SliceLine2 <none>

Please, I need help.

The field SpiceModel must be empty. That's the only mistake.

You only add the TRIAC symbol from the "misc" directory. Then "right
click" the mouse over the word TRIAC and change it to Q8025R5.
Shure, the command line with the models must be added to the
schematic. Example: .INCLUDE tectriac.lib . Put this file into the
lib&#92;sub directory of SwitcherCADIII.

Have you read the datasheet of this high power TRIAC? It needs nearly
100mA gate current to switch on. Just a hint for the circuit in your
simulation.

Have fun with LTSPICE.

Helmut





Brusque
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Hello Helmut,

you were faster with your second posting as I could answer your first one. I wanted to recommend the teccor company too.
I really like Teccor SCRs and TRIACs. We use them extensivelly on our company. Very expensive, but they are the best I know.

The field SpiceModel must be empty. That's the only mistake. You only add the TRIAC symbol from the "misc" directory. Then "right click" the mouse over the word TRIAC and change it to Q8025R5.
Shure, the command line with the models must be added to the schematic. Example: .INCLUDE tectriac.lib . Put this file into the lib&#92;sub directory of SwitcherCADIII.
Yes, this was my mistake. Now it's working. I still don't understand very well how to manage the LTSpice libraries, but I'm working on it.

Have you read the datasheet of this high power TRIAC? It needs nearly 100mA gate current to switch on. Just a hint for the circuit in your simulation.
This was just an example. I've imported the tectriac.lib and some triacs from OnSemi.

Thank you *very* much,

Brusque

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