Re: Spark gap physics.
yep. LTspice was my retirement job
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Mike Engelhardt
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#147407
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Re: POSH (Powershell) tool to manage "user approved" LTspice cmp files
hi eewiz Thanks for the help.. Some user info- All controlled cmp files have a fixed name of "MYstandard.xxx" where .xxx=.bjt, .dio, etc. The script is currently hard configured: 1. All user cmp
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eetech00
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#147406
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Wow, locating hydrocarbon's!
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Richard Andrews
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#147405
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Re: Spark gap physics.
I am thinking now I'll have to use e (elementary charge), calculate the number of atoms for the direct path of the gap, use Paschen's voltage and do some magic with them.
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Richard Andrews
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#147404
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Re: Spark gap physics.
I've had very good luck modeling a spark gap as a switch in series with 20V drop in each direction.? The test case was a parallel tank circuit(about 10uF capacitance at 2.5KV and 10uH inductance)
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Mike Engelhardt
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#147403
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Re: Spark gap physics.
I'm not sure what you mean there, I think the arc, or the detection event in a GM tube can be considered 'low' resistance. I'd like to re-establish credentials as to why we're discussing this on
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Bonkers
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#147402
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Just a thought, I was thinking the resistance drops non-linearly and what ever the source can supply is the current.
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Richard Andrews
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#147401
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Re: Filters (Butterworth, Chebychev etc.)
Oh sorry. Uploaded again.
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Christoph
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#147399
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Re: Filters (Butterworth, Chebychev etc.)
Your zip contains filt.sub and filter.asy, but your model is looking for filter.sub Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 9:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [LTspice] Filters (Butterworth,
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Bell, Dave
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#147398
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Understood, he's using the neon as a G-M tube, but the common G-M circuit already addresses the issue very simply.? G-M tube capacitance is about 5pF, the neons I've just measured are under 1pF, so
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Bonkers
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#147397
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Re: Filters (Butterworth, Chebychev etc.)
I uploaded my filter attempt to the file section. Hope all is self contained and it works. Anything to correct? ¡ª Christoph
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Christoph
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#147395
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Bonkers, " It is possible that the high current pulse when the bulb triggers is responsible for some of the chaotic behavior.? In order to remove the effects of the high current spike when the lamp
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Richard Andrews
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#147394
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Re: Spark gap physics.
no probs - and yeah, don't know why he's using a couple of transistors, a very high value resistor is all that is used for G-M tubes. The high voltage ensures avalanche multiplication, and the low
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Bonkers
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#147393
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Bordodynov, My subcircuit and symbol ( /g/LTspice/files/Temp/paschens-spark_gap.zip )
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Richard Andrews
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#147392
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Paschen's Law *({B} * {p} * {d}) / log({A} * {p} * {d}) - log(log(1+(1/1.2)))-{C}* has nothing to do with resistance except that I believe you need to know the voltage to find the current.
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Richard Andrews
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#147391
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Going to this thread and downloading the downloaded file, I was hoping to see the model of the arrester. What I saw had nothing to do with LTspice, except of course the arrester symbol. I am very
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#147390
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Thanks Bonkers, I've been to techlib missed that circuit.
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Richard Andrews
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#147389
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Tor, thank you, I've seen it. Looks over complicated, but I'll keep it in mind.
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Richard Andrews
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#147388
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Yes, that's true. Right now I am assuming small cylindrical electrodes.
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Richard Andrews
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#147387
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Re: Spark gap physics.
Interesting topic, relates also to neon bulbs, gas arresters etc. I was going to mention that some (all?) neons have some radioactivity - as it bleaches out any variation in striking voltage due to
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Bonkers
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#147386
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