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Re: Help converting UCC5304 simplis model into LTSPICE

 

On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 10:14 AM, eetech00 wrote:
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 03:35 AM, Frank Muenchow wrote:

Thanks eetech00 for porting the model. Unfortunately there's a serious bug, it never works with common mode voltage. I tried a correction

/g/LTspice/files/UCC5304_model_test.zip

Good catch Frank..
I changed the A device "0" reference manually on the outputs but forgot about the inputs.??? :-|
I will update the model, noting your revision, and upload in a day or two.

eT

?Revised 2024/05/20 Model has been uploaded


Re: sensitivity (.SENS)

 

marcel wrote, "It is definitely written by a human being, because it consistently misspells 'LTspice" (even in the name of the group)."

That might be a mistake that an AI would make, after finding so many other things on the 'net where it is misspelled that way.

The choice in the group's name would have been one person's mistake.? It may have carried over to all the articles too.? Heck, it's even possible that the AI wrote the article spelling it "LTspice", which the group's owner then edited to introduce that error.? It's possible that all individuals involved in that article never actually used LTspice.

Andy


Re: sensitivity (.SENS)

 

It is definitely written by a human being, because it consistently misspells 'LTspice" (even in the name of the group).

-marcel


Re: FDA217 spice model

 

4n25 is an opto or photo coupler. LED irradiating a light sensitive NPN transistor
fda217 is a photo voltaic isolator. LED irradiating an series array of photo voltaic cells?

They are two different types of components. They are used in a circuit differently


Re: sensitivity (.SENS)

 

cander shelter showed a link to an article at ""

There is considerable misinformation in that article.

It is not clear if the human(s) behind it know what they are talking about.? But I don't think it was written by a real living, breathing person.

The lack of any meaningful useful information suggests that it was written not to inform and educate, but to be clickbait.? It also says that it was written by an AI bot.? And we know what that means.

Andy


Re: FDA217 spice model

 

Carlos,
VISHAY makes a number of Photovoltaic MOSFET Drivers.
VOMDA1271, VO1263xx & LH1262xx.
They also have spice models available.
Some model files even include the .asy file,
All you need is to take the time and effort to search their web site.
Mike


Re: sensitivity (.SENS)

 






On Saturday, 18 May 2024, 17:49:52 GMT+4, cander shelter via groups.io <hoopeer@...> wrote:


do LTspice have .Sens analysis (can perform the sensitivity analysis)?


Re: FDA217 spice model

 

Yes, yes, I'm using it, but as I need to control a MOSFET, they suggested I switch to this other optocoupler as it would better solve the problem I'm facing.
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Carlos Delfino


Em seg., 20 de mai. de 2024 ¨¤s 00:29, Andy I via <AI.egrps+io=[email protected]> escreveu:

I don't know if this helps, but are you aware that LTspice comes equipped with a 4n25 model?

Andy


Re: FDA217 spice model

 

I don't know if this helps, but are you aware that LTspice comes equipped with a 4n25 model?

Andy


FDA217 spice model

 

Hi,?

I started studying a project using 4n25 to control a mosfet, but I was suggested to use the fda217, does anyone have a model of it that they can share?

regards
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Carlos Delfino


Re: Help converting UCC5304 simplis model into LTSPICE

 

On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 03:35 AM, Frank Muenchow wrote:

Thanks eetech00 for porting the model. Unfortunately there's a serious bug, it never works with common mode voltage. I tried a correction

/g/LTspice/files/UCC5304_model_test.zip

Good catch Frank..
I changed the A device "0" reference manually on the outputs but forgot about the inputs.??? :-|
I will update the model, noting your revision, and upload in a day or two.

eT


Re: Help converting UCC5304 simplis model into LTSPICE

 

"/g/LTspice/files/UCC5304_model_test.zip"

Files should be uploaded into the Temp folder only.

Andy


Re: Import LTspice simbol model of UCC5304 problem

 

Frank,

Thanks, I suspected there was something going wrong in that UCC5304 model, but had not gotten to that point yet.? Thanks for finding this problem with it.

If I remember correctly, this was not a published model, it was converted from another program to SPICE.

Andy


Re: Help converting UCC5304 simplis model into LTSPICE

 

Thanks eetech00 for porting the model. Unfortunately there's a serious bug, it never works with common mode voltage. I tried a correction

/g/LTspice/files/UCC5304_model_test.zip


Re: Import LTspice simbol model of UCC5304 problem

 

Here's the link /g/LTspice/files/UCC5304_model_test.zip


Re: Import LTspice simbol model of UCC5304 problem

 

Hello Andy,
you are right about errors in the posted simulation circuit, e.g. duplicated vdd net label. The issue has been also dicussed at Edaboard

There's however a serious problem with the published ucc5304 model. Obviously the LTspice? has never been tested with common mode voltage between input and output.? Reason is inappropriate usage of global ground node "0" in the subcircuit. I made a little testbench showing the problem and post it along with corrected ucc5304 model.

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Re: INA181

 

Do you realize that by putting a single polarity voltage pulse across the inductor the power delivered from that source is ~0.8Watts?
This will heat up the IC and diode. Also, the common-mode voltage on the input is specified as -0.2V max. and the 1N4007 will let it
go way beyond that.

BTW, the circuit works fine as is, including UIC, when the alternate solver is used.

-marcel


Re: INA181

 

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Several points:

  1. ?The .ASY and .MOD need to be in the same folder as the .ASC, not a separate one.
  2. It works if you delete UIC. Don't use UIC unless it's essential.
  3. You set Trise and Tfall to 0, which is impossible. LTspice uses default values, which may not be suitable. I set them to 0.1?, but they could be bigger if you adjust Ton and Tperiod to allow for them.
On 2024-05-19 06:51, gho via groups.io wrote:

I'm only using LTSpice at hobby level. I've created a component for bi-di current-sense amplifier INA181 from PSpice model supplied by TI and a little test schematic (/g/LTspice/files/Temp/ina181a1-test.zip). But using an inductor as load simulation stops with "Singular matrix" error. And with a resistor it gets very slow after a while and output looks not as expected. Maybe someone can make this work better.

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INA181

 

I'm only using LTSpice at hobby level. I've created a component for bi-di current-sense amplifier INA181 from PSpice model supplied by TI and a little test schematic (/g/LTspice/files/Temp/ina181a1-test.zip). But using an inductor as load simulation stops with "Singular matrix" error. And with a resistor it gets very slow after a while and output looks not as expected. Maybe someone can make this work better.


Re: sensitivity (.SENS)

 

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Do you mean the effect of tolerances on component values? It doesn't have anything built-in to do that, but there are several ways to do it, ranging from a simple. STEP to nested .STEP, and some other ways. Please read the Help, several times. The information content is very dense.

On 2024-05-18 14:49, cander shelter via groups.io wrote:
do LTspice have .Sens analysis (can perform the sensitivity analysis)?
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John Woodgate, Rayleigh, Essex UK
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