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Re: Convergence Problems.
--- In LTspice@..., "jason.vanryan" <andrewc.russell@...> wrote:
Can you change the circuit step by step so that you can see which modification causes the problems? Best regards, Frank |
Re: Convergence Problems.
--- In LTspice@..., "jason.vanryan" <andrewc.russell@...> wrote:
Hello Jason, Please try my suggestion with cshunt as I mentioned before. Best regards, Helmut |
Article on EDN by Mike Robbins
Hi,
in that article Mike Robins claims superiority of their "CircuitLab" simulator over all other simulators in respect of numerical resolution. He shows a LTspice screen with a totaly off solution. In fact this circuit needs the "alternate" solver to get the right solution. Is there a secret .option for seting the solver? Help says: "There is no .option to specify which solver is used, the choice must be made before the netlist is parsed because the two solvers use different parsers." Why not? Wouldn't it be better than puting a text on the shematic, saying "attention: switch to alternate solver for this deck". Greetings Michael |
Re: Convergence Problems.
--- In LTspice@..., "jason.vanryan" <andrewc.russell@...> wrote:
My problems are still with me. I have tried the ideas above still no success. I took a circuit that is simulating well and appears to be stable ( ie no convergence problems) that uses the same models as the previous circuit. I modify this circuit so that it is a replica of the first circuit discussed above, and the problems return. I am getting pages of ''Heightened Def Con from xxx to yyy' messages in the error log file which I never had before. |
Re: Step Change to k of Coupled Inductors During Transient Analysis
Hi Heinz-W. Schockenbaum and Macy.I do not understand why I needed to
update fonts. I use the browsers Mozilla FireFox and Google Chrome. I looked at her letters with them. Everything is fine. These browsers I reinstalled in May. I will make an attempt to change the font of the letter.Bordodynov. --- In LTspice@..., Macy wrote: Transient Analysis Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 14:35:32 -0000 |
Re: Combining Stepped LTspice runs with Narration
How about record it in Camtasia ......
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Re: Convergence Problems.
--- In LTspice@..., "analogspiceman" <analogspiceman@...> wrote:
Clear- thanks for pointing that out. I'll give it a try. |
Re: Convert model PSpice to LTSpice ??
HSPICE models and netlist files (without encryption) are capable of running
in LTspice. The problem is that HSPICE has so many deviations from generic SPICE. If a netlist uses any of those unique features, it won't work. PSPICE is much more compatible. LTspice is designed to handle nearly all PSPICE syntax. I am not aware of any conversion tools. Andy |
Re: Time domain based frequency response analysis
--- In LTspice@..., "analogspiceman" <analogspiceman@...> wrote:
SIMPLIS type simulators are very fast in part because they approx-analogspiceman, Why not just use a suitable continuous time model like your Canonical_Cells.zip? These models can easily be used in a closed loop system using a "loop gain" (injecting a test signal in the closed loop) type analysis. It seems to me that an FRA is the wrong approach. Rick |
Re: Convert model PSpice to LTSpice ??
John Woodgate
In message <ksmqo7+4skp@...>, dated Tue, 23 Jul 2013, vtlya2000 <vtlya2000@...> writes:
How to convert model from Orcad Pspice or HSPICE to LTSpice?Encrypted files cannot be converted. Unencrypted Pspice files will either run on LTspice or need a few small syntax tweaks to the netlist, unless they use models unique to Pspice. Unencrypted Hspice files will not often convert. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Why is the stapler always empty just when you want it? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK |
Re: LTspice Genealogy - The Heritage of Simulation Ubiquity
Henry McCall <hank@...> wrote:
I believe my answer was correct with respect to programs labelled "SPICE". You were correct that the research work was at "one of the California universities" (U. Cal. Berkeley), and it's true that a Ph.D. thesis was involved. The PhD thesis was not the grandfather of SPICE; rather, it was a summary report about the development of SPICE. The thesis is dated 1973, the same year SPICE1 was released to the public. Your timeframe is off. Early 1970s, not mid to late 60s. CANCER, SPICE's ancestor, was very late 60s to early 70s. In that time, and especially in the 60s, MOS was an uncommon technology. Far more electronic circuits used BJT transistors than MOS. The benchmark circuits that were developed with SPICE (included in Dr. Nagel's thesis) were quite BJT-centric. Back then MOSFETs may have had more analog applications, than digital. Andy |
Re: LTspice Genealogy - The Heritage of Simulation Ubiquity
--- In LTspice@..., Henry McCall <hank@...> wrote:
I believe my answer was correct with respect to programsNah, as far as I know, most of what you wrote was largely bogus and not really based on historical fact. I stand by the history of SPICE as presented on the LTwiki. However, if you can cite and link credible sources that indicate a different or earlier use of the term SPICE with regard to electronic circuit simulation, then I will be happy to modify the LTwiki page accordingly (and issue my humble apologies as well). If you have more accurate information, please present it and you will have my thanks as I truly am very interested in getting LTspice's heritage right. |
Re: Convergence Problems.
--- In LTspice@..., "jason.vanryan" <andrewc.russell@...> wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. This is happening on the latest versionBe sure to try using the Alternate Solver as Andy suggested. This option must be set manually (cannot be set in the simulation commands on the schematic) and it is easy to overlook it having been set on a prior, unrelated simulation. If it gets inadvertently reset, marginal simulations can "suddenly" cease to run. |
Time domain based frequency response analysis
A lot of simulators have added POP/PSS (Periodic Operating Point/
Periodic Steady-State) solvers to their repertoire. Micro-Cap recently added POP capability. They discuss it here: Notice the effect it has on the resolution of the FFT example. Many other simulators take this further with the addition of a time domain based fast running FRA (Frequency Response Analyzer) capability (SIMPLIS, PSIM and NL5 come to mind, but there are others as well). This capability allows the simulator to directly produce Bode plots and loop gain analyses for switched circuits such as switched-mode power supplies (a very good feature, IMO). The application of small-signal frequency-domain analysis to switching piecewise-linear systems presents tremendous challenges. Some years ago I made a FRA completely within LTspice using its special a-devices (still available in our group files section). About that time, Mike added some FRA examples to LTspice that use post processing (.meas statements) to complete the analysis and plot the results. Mike writes about this at length in the FAQ section of LTspice's Help file topic ("How to get a Bode Plot from a SMPS"). He argues that it is not worth the trouble because it is generally not needed in order to be able to compensate a design using an LTC IC because most of them use current mode control. Both of the above LTspice FRA approaches (mine and Mike's) are painfully slow and suffer numerical dynamic range noise problems. SIMPLIS (which has a free, but node limited demo) will solve for the frequency response and/or loop gain of SMPS circuits with no noise issues and will run the complete response analysis within a few minutes (LTspice might take hours to do the same thing). Here is link to a paper in which a basic buck stage is simulated with SIMPLIS. The schematic is on page 16 and the SIMPLIS output is shown on the next page (out to several times the switching frequency). The results shown look very clean with just the right sort of loop response as expected for the extended frequency range simulated. In the past, I have measured SMPS loops with an HP4194A loop gain analyzer. The lab measurements look just like the SIMPLIS results. I have also used the Ridley AP analyzer, but it is not quite as accurate as the HP4194A. I have been told that the Venable analyzer produces very good results as well (perhaps the best of all). SIMPLIS type simulators are very fast in part because they approx- imate all the nonlinear switched devices (diode, MOSFETs, etc.) with line segment approximations through the switch transition (some allow the number of segments used to be specified). Part of their speed comes from the use of the POP/PSS analysis to quickly find the operating point. I think a large part of their speed also comes from having a native frequency response analyzer device directly built into the simulator code. LTspice already has a lot of these types of capabilities (ideal diodes and switches with smooth transitions), POP/PSS sensing (but no accelerator to get there). It has fast state transition sensing devices (the digital a-devices). Personally, I would like to see Mike add a native FRA device to LTspice so that it could generate Bode plot loop-gain curves for switched mode products. It would not be necessary to be as fast as SIMPLIS because LTspice does not use the less accurate line segment approximations, but noise free results would be a must. Run times of one third to one tenth the speed of SIMPLIS (or the others) would be okay. There are lots of tricks Mike could use to speed up the analysis. For example, the Venable analyzer looks at phase change rate to dynamically adjust the spacing of the frequency measurement points. For LTC current mode ICs, all this may not be necessary, but for general SMPS design there are many cases in which second order effects dominate the loop response (series ESR in capacitors, parallel loss in inductors, variable operating point dependent delays in opto-isolator devices, etc.). In cases like these, or when using non standard control methods, depending on averaged models and standard concepts may lead to false conclusions and bad choices in compensation design. A time domain FRA capability in an excellent general purpose simulator such as is LTspice would allow the designer better insight into the circuit and would be a big plus to its feature set. |
Re: LTspice Genealogy - The Heritage of Simulation Ubiquity
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I believe my answer was correct with respect to programs labelled "SPICE". And you can research too. Hank McCall On 7/22/2013 11:45 AM, analogspiceman wrote:
--- In LTspice@..., "analogspiceman" wrote:Segueing back to the history of LTspice, I just found a very in-Here's the pertinent excerpt: |
Re: Convergence Problems.
--- In LTspice@..., "jason.vanryan" <andrewc.russell@...> wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. This is happening on the latest version I downloaded and after I hav set all sim variables to default in the tool tab. I will try the cap idea and see how it works out. |
Re: LTspice Genealogy - The Heritage of Simulation Ubiquity
--- In LTspice@..., "Steven" <swkunkle@...> wrote:
You might find this interesting.Thanks, but that was one of the first pages I found when I first started to research the history of SPICE. Some interviews with early SPICE developers and pictures of them.Yes, it *is* a good reference and worth a read. I really should add it and some more of the best such links to the wiki. I don't know if it adds anything to your wiki, but theYeah, and so did a pencil & paper and then the slide rule. :) (You gotta draw the line somewhere.) CANCER was really the first true progenitor of SPICE (the others you mentioned were just distant relatives without a very good genetic match, in my opinion). CANCER really was the first circuit simulator to utilize sparse matrix techniques and integrated DC operating point analysis, small-signal AC analysis and transient analysis all into one package. |
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