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Re: arbitrary solar cell model

 

--- In LTspice@..., "Hamed" <l0st_l0rd@...> wrote:

Thanks friends for your responses but the point is that
converting this circuit to schematics will make it more
confusing. Actually the output should not have the distortion
in -1.8kA! and it should continue constant like a diode :)
Is there some reason you model must be so complicated and do you
really need to reinvent the diode model? Couldn't you do something
like the following and put all us, your fellow group members and
involuntary consumers of SPAM, out of our collective misery?

[Or you could just feed us wafer-thin after-dinner mints...
Gurgle, burp... Nah, I couldn't eat another thing, I'm
absolutely stuffed! Now, SPAM off!]

* Simple yet effective PV Array model (typical values)
*
* Rp sets voltage slope of curve
* Rs sets current slope of curve
* Isc is short circuit current
* n = number of series cells
* m = number of parallel strings

.param Rp=1 Rs=3m Isc=10 n=60 m=1
I1 0 1 {Isc*m}
D1 1 0 cell n={n} m={m}
Rp 1 0 {Rp*n/m}
.model cell d Rs={Rs} Is=315n n=1.26 Cjo=50u Tnom=25 Trs1=10m Trs2=0m1


Re: arbitrary solar cell model

John Woodgate
 

In message <krgsbq+nfo3@...>, dated Tue, 9 Jul 2013, hamed <l0st_l0rd@...> writes:

Thanks friends for your responses but the point is that converting this circuit to schematics will make it more confusing.
It couldn't possibly do so. If you want more help, please post the schematic.
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Re: arbitrary solar cell model

 

Thanks friends for your responses but the point is that converting this circuit to schematics will make it more confusing.
actually the output should not have the distortion in -1.8kA ! and it should continue constant like a diode :)

kind regards
Hamed

--- In LTspice@..., John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:

In message <krg4eh+9gdc@...>, dated Tue, 9 Jul 2013, sawreyrw
<sawreyrw@...> writes:

No one is interested in a .cir file. If you want help, convert it to
an .asc file and post that to the Files>Temp folder of this group.
The file will run and 'Pick visible traces' allows output node voltages
to be plotted. Both outputs have serious problems, output 2 is stuck at
0 V but output 1 'blows up' to quasi-infinite voltage.

Some people can read netlists well, but I can't.
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Why is the stapler always empty just when you want it?

John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK


Re: .measure script

 

--- In LTspice@..., "mbuni78" <mbuniltd@...> wrote:

Seems there has been quite a bit written about the .meas command which makes it hard to find specific information in previous posts.

Several questions that may have been already answered in the past:

1) Is there an example .meas script posted in the "Files" section that I may have missed?
Files > Tut > MEASURE



2) If there is a syntax error in the .meas file, does the whole script fail or only that particular .meas command?
Only the commands which are wrong and of course the commands
needing results from wrong previous commands.

3) Can I parameterize within a .meas command? E.g. can
I parameterize the start and end times for an average function.
Yes.


.param mbegin=5us mend=20us
.meas Pout avg RLOAD6*I(R2)^2 from={mbegin} to={mend}

Also "from=" and "to=" does not seem to be documented in any ltspice help documentation. I had to grab it off hspice documentation.

Thanks.
Hello,

Please try the mentioned examples.

Best regards,
Helmut


Re: A TVS does not work with load dump test??

 

Hi.
You included TVS diode in parallel to the voltage source? Then, measure the diode current. If the source impedance is zero, the voltage limit is not.
Put your project in the TEMP folder.
Bordodynov.

09.07.2013, 14:38, "eqmqiq" <g9512728@...>:

I try to create a general RC circuit with LED which is usually designed for car lamp use. A TVS(SMBJ24CA) is used for protect from voltage spike(parallel with input). I input a load dump voltage waveform into the circuit, but the voltage is not clamped by TVS, does anybody know what the problem is??


A TVS does not work with load dump test??

 

I try to create a general RC circuit with LED which is usually designed for car lamp use. A TVS(SMBJ24CA) is used for protect from voltage spike(parallel with input). I input a load dump voltage waveform into the circuit, but the voltage is not clamped by TVS, does anybody know what the problem is??


74F and 74ACT models

 

Hy guys

Does anybody know where it is possible to get some models of 74F and 74ACT units?

I couldn't find anything in the group library.

In a university project I should simulate and analyse the frequency spectrum and the cross talk characteristics by using these elements.

In advance many thanks.

Regards

Misho


.measure script

 

Seems there has been quite a bit written about the .meas command which makes it hard to find specific information in previous posts.

Several questions that may have been already answered in the past:

1) Is there an example .meas script posted in the "Files" section that I may have missed?

2) If there is a syntax error in the .meas file, does the whole script fail or only that particular .meas command?

3) Can I parameterize within a .meas command? E.g. can I parameterize the start and end times for an average function.

.param mbegin=5us mend=20us
.meas Pout avg RLOAD6*I(R2)^2 from={mbegin} to={mend}

Also "from=" and "to=" does not seem to be documented in any ltspice help documentation. I had to grab it off hspice documentation.

Thanks.


Re: arbitrary solar cell model

John Woodgate
 

In message <krg4eh+9gdc@...>, dated Tue, 9 Jul 2013, sawreyrw <sawreyrw@...> writes:

No one is interested in a .cir file. If you want help, convert it to an .asc file and post that to the Files>Temp folder of this group.
The file will run and 'Pick visible traces' allows output node voltages to be plotted. Both outputs have serious problems, output 2 is stuck at 0 V but output 1 'blows up' to quasi-infinite voltage.

Some people can read netlists well, but I can't.
--
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Why is the stapler always empty just when you want it?

John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK


Re: Possible to snap to lowest or highest point of plot?

 

--- In LTspice@..., "uoficowboy" <nleahcim@...> wrote:

Hi - I have been characterizing a couple circuits and have
been manually trying to find the highest and lowest voltages
and currents of a circuit I'm simulation. I'd love it if
there was some sort of "snap" feature that would snap to
the highest or lowest point. Or, similarly, if I could just
get the highest/lowest points of waveforms to be displayed
on the schematic itself.

Does anything like this exist?

Thanks!!

Hello,

You could use the MEASURE functions. The results will be in the
log-file. View -> SPICE Error log

.meas peak1 MAX V(..) ....

There are many examples in the Files section.

Files > Tut > MEASURE



Best regards,
Helmut


Re: inductance with a permeability in dependency of frequency

 

--- In LTspice@..., "Herbert" <afu@...> wrote:

Hi there,

dows anybody have an idea for modelling a inductance with a permeability in dependency of frequency ??

I could not find anything in the messages ?!

Herbert
Herbert,

I'd like to help you, but I don't understand your question. What do you want to know?

Rick


Re: arbitrary solar cell model

 

--- In LTspice@..., "hamed" <l0st_l0rd@...> wrote:

Dear friends

in the file below you can find an arbitrary solar cell.
When I put two cells in parallel the answer is correct and when I put them in
series I see a distortion.
I think the problem is related to the diode behavioral model.

I will be thankful if any of you could help me.



sincerely,
Hamed
Hamed,

No one is interested in a .cir file. If you want help, convert it to an .asc file and post that to the Files>Temp folder of this group.

Rick


Re: OT/Left Field...

 

Nick:

I did not mean to be meen, I just presumed there had been no search done.
I did also notice NGspice, and it does sound like a good option,
especially in conection with google drive. It would allow you to design,
simulate, and store results on line hopefully with minimal processing
requirements.

Tim


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Nick <nick@...> wrote:

**


--- In LTspice@..., Tim Jameson <tim@...> wrote:
I have found that Google is my friend. Anytime I start looking for
something, I start at google.com So, with that in mind, I went to
google.com,
and found Droid Tesla[1], another great place to look is wikipedia[2],
the
page on spice lists several implementations with source code[3].
Gosh! I never thought of using Google or Wikipedia. Brilliant idea :)

Sorry for the irony - I write Android apps and am a regular Wiki editor,
so of course, I had done my research.

Its personal recommendations that interest me, from people who understand
SPICE and the technology that surrounds it...



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Possible to snap to lowest or highest point of plot?

 

Hi - I have been characterizing a couple circuits and have been manually trying to find the highest and lowest voltages and currents of a circuit I'm simulation. I'd love it if there was some sort of "snap" feature that would snap to the highest or lowest point. Or, similarly, if I could just get the highest/lowest points of waveforms to be displayed on the schematic itself.

Does anything like this exist?

Thanks!!


Re: OT/Left Field...

 

--- In LTspice@..., Tim Jameson <tim@...> wrote:
I have found that Google is my friend. Anytime I start looking for
something, I start at google.com So, with that in mind, I went to google.com,
and found Droid Tesla[1], another great place to look is wikipedia[2], the
page on spice lists several implementations with source code[3].
Gosh! I never thought of using Google or Wikipedia. Brilliant idea :)

Sorry for the irony - I write Android apps and am a regular Wiki editor, so of course, I had done my research.

Its personal recommendations that interest me, from people who understand SPICE and the technology that surrounds it...


Re: Feature Request: Option to preserve/reload plot settings after simulation run

 

And that is what I said I did. I did a cc to this thread to document that there is continuing interest in this thread and feature.

--- In LTspice@..., "Helmut" <helmutsennewald@...> wrote:

Hello Al,

You have to send your wish to the email address given in the
Help-About of the LTspice program. Mike normally doesn't
read the messages here.

Best regards,
Helmut


--- In LTspice@..., "Al" <alhastings314@> wrote:

Per John's suggestion, the following email was sent to Mike.

Dear Mr. Engelhard,

LTspice is fantastic! I evaluated many alternatives before I selected it. While the price was definitely a factor, the ease of use was the major issue. The user interface is intuitive, simple yet powerful. Well done.

A feature that would be extremely helpful is the "Option to preserve/reload plot settings after simulation run." The Yahoo! LTspice user group has a thread on this subject. They have explained it better than I can. A work around has been proposed in the thread (assigning reload plot to the space bar) helps but its no substitute for having the feature integrated.

I have LTspice IV, Ver 4.19i, running on Windows 7 Home Premium.

Keep up the good work.

Al

cc: Yahoo! Group LTspice via thread "Feature Request: Option to preserve/reload plot settings after simulation run."





--- In LTspice@..., John Woodgate <jmw@> wrote:

In message <20120106140329.7e86cf4f@svelte>, dated Fri, 6 Jan 2012,
Colin D Bennett <colin@> writes:

As the designer of a product, or even a long-time user, you get
accustomed to the interface, and it can take a fresh perspective to see
where usability improvements can be made.
Well, this is no new proposal, and I'm sure Mike is well aware of the
'want'. But it won't come by discussing it here.

Proposals for changes or additions to the program must be sent by email
to Mike at the address given in the Help -> 'About' panel.
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Re: OT/Left Field...

 

Ipad fans may be interested in Spicy. See:
<>

Howard

On 7/8/2013 11:55 AM, Nick wrote:

I am getting fed up with lugging a laptop around when I also use a
tablet....

I would love an Android version of LTspice (which I know is highly
unlikely), or failing that, a good SPICE for tablet use...

Thanks

Nick

PS. Anyone know of any decent Android PCB layout/routing packages...?


Re: OT/Left Field...

 

NGSpice Online looks like an interesting approach. See:
<>
The site provides the following sales pitch.

This site allows you to run ngspice simulations from a web browser environment. Whether you are using a Windows, Linux, or Mac computer, a smart phone, or a tablet, you always should be able to run a SPICE simulation

Howard

On 7/8/2013 12:28 PM, Tim Jameson wrote:
Nick:

I have found that Google is my friend. Anytime I start looking for
something, I start at google.com So, with that in mind, I went to google.com,
and found Droid Tesla[1], another great place to look is wikipedia[2], the
page on spice lists several implementations with source code[3].

These links were discovered in under 2 minutes. Please find the links as a
great place to start.


Tim

[1]
[2]
[3]




On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Nick <nick@...> wrote:

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I am getting fed up with lugging a laptop around when I also use a
tablet....

I would love an Android version of LTspice (which I know is highly
unlikely), or failing that, a good SPICE for tablet use...

Thanks

Nick

PS. Anyone know of any decent Android PCB layout/routing packages...?




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Re: OT/Left Field...

 

Nick:

I have found that Google is my friend. Anytime I start looking for
something, I start at google.com So, with that in mind, I went to google.com,
and found Droid Tesla[1], another great place to look is wikipedia[2], the
page on spice lists several implementations with source code[3].

These links were discovered in under 2 minutes. Please find the links as a
great place to start.


Tim

[1]
[2]
[3]

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Nick <nick@...> wrote:

**


I am getting fed up with lugging a laptop around when I also use a
tablet....

I would love an Android version of LTspice (which I know is highly
unlikely), or failing that, a good SPICE for tablet use...

Thanks

Nick

PS. Anyone know of any decent Android PCB layout/routing packages...?



Re: OT/Left Field...

 

Hi Nick


On 07/08/2013 12:55 PM, Nick wrote:
I am getting fed up with lugging a laptop around when I also use a
tablet....
I would love an Android version of LTspice (which I know is highly
unlikely), or failing that, a good SPICE for tablet use...

Yes, meetoo!!!

As for an android "spice",
theres Everycircuit:



It works very well, though
its not a traditional compatible spice.
The gui is pretty slick.

Other trade offs are that
it has limited ckt space and
its 10$ for the enhanced version.

Its quite usable for smaller things.
I do like it.

Al D.


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