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Re: SPICE Error
--- In LTspice@..., Tan Micheline Tambayong <micheline.tambayong@...> wrote:
I already uploaded the file under name Pefficiency_analysis.asc.Methode how to calculate efficiency is missing. Please notice that R1 is not connected to gnd. I suppose you calculated like this: voltage should be: V(n003)-V(n004). Current is I(R1) so power is (V(n003)-V(n004))*I(R1) Divide Output power by input power?... Your uploaded simulation works for me. hws |
Re: SPICE Error
Hi Micheline,
Could you please post the circuit schematics, Symbols, and models and all relevant files in the Temp files of this group ? It is a lot easier with a schematic to troubleshoot. Best regards, Michael To: LTspice@... From: micheline.tambayong@... Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:21:03 +1000 Subject: [LTspice] SPICE Error Does anyone know what its means when LTspice give error: "Singular matrix: check node n002 Iteration No. 1" The circuit is made by AC voltage source, resistor (series with the voltage source), bridge rectifier, capacitor, resistor paralleled with the capacitor as a load at the output, and ground. The circuit is plotting and simulating just fine for small value of capacitor. But when I increase the capacitor value above 16uF, LTspice give the above error. But for some capacitor values (eg. 20uF) it's fine again, and when I increase it again (eg.21uF), it gives error again. So LTspice gives error for most of capacitor value above 16uF but not all.. Also, for some value, it simulating but then the plot stops in the middle. The value of the capacitor that gives an ok plot and error are randoms (no pattern). So does anyone know, what's the reason that the LTspice behaves like this? Thanks in advance.. Kind regards, Micheline [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: SPICE Error
Tan Micheline Tambayong
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Thanks for the reply. I already uploaded the file under name Pefficiency_analysis.asc. Please try to simulate the power in V1 and power in R1 since I am analyzing the Power efficiency (Pout/Pin) of the circuit. Also if you try to simulate using C = 16uF it's simulating just fine but it gives error when you try C = 17uF... You can try other value of C as well. It gives error for only some values of C above 16uF. Hope you can find out why it behaves as such.. Thanks so much for the help Kind regards, Micheline On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Helmut <helmutsennewald@...> wrote:
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Re: Strange impedance curve
--- In LTspice@..., "gasoltroll" <johan.lans@...> wrote:
Hello Johann, Please set a value for Cpar when you have set Lser. Right-mouse-click on the capacitor. Then set the following. Equivalent parallel capacitance(Cpar): 0p Best regards, Helmut |
Re: SPICE Error
--- In LTspice@..., Tan Micheline Tambayong <micheline.tambayong@...> wrote:
Hello Micheline, This error message simply means that LTspice couldn't solve the matrix. Maybe your circuit has an open nets. Please upload your circuit to this group for a test to the following location. Files > Temp > yourcircuit.asc Best regards, Helmut |
Re: Strange impedance curve
SPICE (and LTspice is no exception) can have additional shunt elements
from every node to ground, added to help convergence. ?I've kind of lost track of exact details, over the years, but there can be a gshunt (conductance) and a cshunt (capacitance) added to every node. I think cshunt is resonating with the tantalum's inductance. I don't know exactly where the value of this capacitance is set (other than an .OPTIONS statement), but I saw in the "Hacks" tab of the Control Panel, there is a setting for "Minimum shunt to main capacitance ratio". ?Changing that number moves the parallel resonance,?so I think it is the cause. ?If you make the "Hacks" value very small, or zero, the curve looks like your Octave plot. Andy |
SPICE Error
Tan Micheline Tambayong
Does anyone know what its means when LTspice give error:
"Singular matrix: check node n002 Iteration No. 1" The circuit is made by AC voltage source, resistor (series with the voltage source), bridge rectifier, capacitor, resistor paralleled with the capacitor as a load at the output, and ground. The circuit is plotting and simulating just fine for small value of capacitor. But when I increase the capacitor value above 16uF, LTspice give the above error. But for some capacitor values (eg. 20uF) it's fine again, and when I increase it again (eg.21uF), it gives error again. So LTspice gives error for most of capacitor value above 16uF but not all.. Also, for some value, it simulating but then the plot stops in the middle. The value of the capacitor that gives an ok plot and error are randoms (no pattern). So does anyone know, what's the reason that the LTspice behaves like this? Thanks in advance.. Kind regards, Micheline |
Re: wanted: opamp browsing, like transistor browsing
carlvanwormer
--- In LTspice@..., "Tony Casey" <tony@...> wrote:
Maybe I'm just a little bit lazy, since there are over 300 amplifiers to chose from in the LT selection window. Yes, they do have a one-line overview of the good specs, but being able to sort (like on the website selector page) is what I was hoping for. Thanks to those who had other suggestions (universal opamp), but I wanted to "play with real opamps" before I ordered some samples for my breadboard. |
Re: Strange impedance curve
I used to get strange differences between linear and log scales in earlier
version of LTspice, though I haven't had any in the last year or two. They were never explained, but they certainly disappeared. If it's not an early version, have a look at the no of points per octave you are using. If you have too few there can be some very strange plotting as the otherwise seemingly excellent interpolation does its best with the derivatives it's given. A bouncing ball shape is one definite symptom of this. CT On 18 September 2011 20:15, gasoltroll <johan.lans@...> wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: simulation of EC81 with the new added subckt to Koren_Tubes.cir failed
--- In LTspice@..., "Suusi M-B" <smalcolmbrown@...> wrote:
great Suusi :-), best regards, Leo |
Re: simulation of EC81 with the new added subckt to Koren_Tubes.cir failed
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Found the problem and fixed it It turns out that I managed to miss the p from the grid plate capacitance so it went from 1.6pf to 1.6 farads hence the weird results I do wish the LTspice's editor didn¡¯t default to overtype every time you paste into a document Suusi Malcolm-Brown -----Original Message-----
From: LTspice@... [mailto:LTspice@...] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 18 September 2011 22:16 To: LTspice@... Subject: Re: [LTspice] Re: simulation of EC81 with the new added subckt to Koren_Tubes.cir failed In message <j55l56+a39e@...>, dated Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Charly Engineering <charly020664@...> writes: --- In LTspice@..., John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:They are clearly very different types of model; the EC/PC86 uses a B-source while the EC81 uses parameters. The transient simulation failure shows that the EC81 model doesn't work, but I don't know why. I don't see any error in it, but I might not recognise one if it bit me. I'm just wondering if LTspice understands those parameters without some extra information. The result is even more bizarre if you delete the 50 ¦ÌF! -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK When I point to a star, please look at the star, not my finger. The star will be more interesting. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
Re: simulation of EC81 with the new added subckt to Koren_Tubes.cir failed
They are clearly very different types of model; the EC/PC86 uses aThe extra informations for the EC81 are in the .subckt TRIODE in the Koren_Tubes.cir. I think they use subcircuits from subcircuits :-)... best regards, Leo |
Re: simulation of EC81 with the new added subckt to Koren_Tubes.cir failed
John Woodgate
In message <j55l56+a39e@...>, dated Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Charly
Engineering <charly020664@...> writes: --- In LTspice@..., John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:They are clearly very different types of model; the EC/PC86 uses a B-source while the EC81 uses parameters. The transient simulation failure shows that the EC81 model doesn't work, but I don't know why. I don't see any error in it, but I might not recognise one if it bit me. I'm just wondering if LTspice understands those parameters without some extra information. The result is even more bizarre if you delete the 50 ¦ÌF! -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK When I point to a star, please look at the star, not my finger. The star will be more interesting. |
Re: simulation of EC81 with the new added subckt to Koren_Tubes.cir failed
--- In LTspice@..., John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:
Maybe the models differ in some vital respect. Please upload your EC86uploaded, thanks, Leo ... |
Re: simulation of EC81 with the new added subckt to Koren_Tubes.cir failed
John Woodgate
In message <j55k6t+5cer@...>, dated Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Charly Engineering <charly020664@...> writes:
I don't understand why the EC86-transient-analyse is succesful and the EC81 with the Koren_Tube-model in nearly the same circuit not.Maybe the models differ in some vital respect. Please upload your EC86 .asc and model. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK When I point to a star, please look at the star, not my finger. The star will be more interesting. |
Re: simulation of EC81 with the new added subckt to Koren_Tubes.cir failed
It would help if you told us what you are trying to make a simulationYes, I work at noise-matched active antennas. The Rser and Cser of the voltage-source simulate a electrical short antenna at about 1 MHz. I would not try to use a tube, but unfortunately I need big signal solidity up to fields of 20 V/m or 30 V/m for usage near a big transmitter. I try to aspire a bandwidth from 10 kHz to min. 30 Mhz. 10 kHz is not simple with a tube. I first tried with an EC86, that works, but an EC81 is much more better like my databook told me. It is the first time, I used a Koren_tube model from the lib. For the EC86 I used another model. Don't think about the 1 mH-transformer, it's only for testing here. I don't understand why the EC86-transient-analyse is succesful and the EC81 with the Koren_Tube-model in nearly the same circuit not. thanx, best regards, Leo |
Re: simulation of EC81 with the new added subckt to Koren_Tubes.cir failed
John Woodgate
In message <j55dke+dhss@...>, dated Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Charly Engineering <charly020664@...> writes:
I asked here for a model for the EC81, Suusi Malcom-Brown-B was so kindly to add the model to the Koren_tubes.cir-lib.-Everything delivers curious results. You have just a 1 mV input signal, which at low frequencies is attenuated further by the 18 pF capacitor and the 1 meg resistor, and the EC81's input capacitance. Then you ac sweep goes to 500 MHz, at which frequency the 1 mH anode load has an enormous impedance and is quite impracticable. It would help if you told us what you are trying to make a simulation of. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK When I point to a star, please look at the star, not my finger. The star will be more interesting. |
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