Re: Schematic drawing issues
Now I have it the other way round, white for
schematics (so they print out that way), and light grey for
waveforms to get better colour contrast. I'd like the default
colours to nearly follow the resistor colour code, but with
black as 10, pink as 11 and cyan as 12, so I've set it up that
way.
On 2025-03-10 18:49, Andy I via
groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 05:00 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
.... I have to print to
.JPG, ...
I don't have a Windows driver to print to JPG.? I can print to
PDF, and can go from there to a JPG or GIF or PNG but it's
cumbersome.
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I forgot to mention that I always use a white background on
my LTspice screen (light grey for the schematic screen).? I
never liked the default black background for waveforms, so it is
the first thing I change whenever installing LTspice.
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Andy
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
I wrote:
Sounds like you've got a bad UI problem there.
Sorry, I forgot to provide context.? I was referring to the UI of ADI's Engineer Zone, making it appear as if a new message post could not be completed without a schematic.? Requiring to click "post" after clicking "post" seems counter-intuitive.
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Andy
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 05:00 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
.... I have to print to .JPG, ...
I don't have a Windows driver to print to JPG.? I can print to PDF, and can go from there to a JPG or GIF or PNG but it's cumbersome.
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I forgot to mention that I always use a white background on my LTspice screen (light grey for the schematic screen).? I never liked the default black background for waveforms, so it is the first thing I change whenever installing LTspice.
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Andy
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
Well, the message seems to be an executive
order, not to be disobeyed. Perhaps it could be re-worded, like
'If your question is about a specific schematic, it can't be
answered unless you upload the schematic (.ASC file) for
examination. If it is not about a specific schematic, press POST
again'
On 2025-03-10 18:07, mstokowski via
groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 06:12 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
So I tried. You can't use
the word 'schematic' in a question without uploading a
schematic! This is not sensible. I worked round it by
writing 'circuit diagram' instead. Three cheers for
British English!
On 2025-03-10 12:56, John
Woodgate wrote:
Thanks, Tony. I will
try.
On 2025-03-10 12:50, Tony Casey
wrote:
You have to
start a discussion and title it "Feature Request, or
similar.
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Regards,Tony
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As
someone who has to often ask for schematics, I wish that this
was the case. :-) Actually, when you create any Engineer Zone
post with LTspice as the product, as soon as you click Post, a
pop-up appears asking for any related files — i.e. schematics,
symbols, etc — since the vase majority of cases require one
for debugging. Obviously, feature requests like this, do not.
When you close that pop-up, it does not reappear, assuming you
got the message. It is only a message, not a hard stop, though
it looks like one. You do not need to remove instances of
“schematic”, simply click Post again. Essentially, that is
what you did, but you also changed your post to read “circuit
diagram”.
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mike
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Michael Stokowski
LTspice Team
Analog Devices Inc.
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
IMO, it is odd that Stretching the rectangle's corner marker is ineffective.? It must involve drawing a lasso around it first, or nothing happens.? That is not intuitive.? Consider improving this.
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Andy
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
Raise your hand if you feel changing hotkeys was anything short of a dumb idea.
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It's been said before too.
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Andy
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
Sounds like you've got a bad UI problem there.
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Andy
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 12:41 PM, eewiz wrote:
As for #3 below;
Hit the "S" key.
Drag a box around an entire edge of a rectangle, top to bottom, or right to left.
Drag that edge of the rectangle to a new desired position.
“Drag” is now “Stretch”, hence the “S”. Raise your hand if you felt there is enough distinction between the words “Drag” and “Move”. Feels like one is simply a more specific description of the other.
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Just to clarify the instructions. There are two points that can be dragged to stretch the rectangle, namely the upper left corner of the rectangle, or the lower right corner. You simply drag a box around either of these two points, no need to select the entire edge.
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For fun, or not fun, with the Stretch tool active, drag a box around the entire rectangle; the action is now a Move.
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mike
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 06:12 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
So I tried. You can't use the word 'schematic' in a question without uploading a schematic! This is not sensible. I worked round it by writing 'circuit diagram' instead. Three cheers for British English!
On 2025-03-10 12:56, John Woodgate wrote:
Thanks, Tony. I will try.
On 2025-03-10 12:50, Tony Casey wrote:
You have to start a discussion and title it "Feature Request, or similar.
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Regards,Tony
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As someone who has to often ask for schematics, I wish that this was the case. :-) Actually, when you create any Engineer Zone post with LTspice as the product, as soon as you click Post, a pop-up appears asking for any related files — i.e. schematics, symbols, etc — since the vase majority of cases require one for debugging. Obviously, feature requests like this, do not. When you close that pop-up, it does not reappear, assuming you got the message. It is only a message, not a hard stop, though it looks like one. You do not need to remove instances of “schematic”, simply click Post again. Essentially, that is what you did, but you also changed your post to read “circuit diagram”.
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mike
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Michael Stokowski
LTspice Team
Analog Devices Inc.
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Re: LTspice vs ngspice 12AU7 tube amplifier transient analysis
What is 'MNA', please?
Modified Nodal Analysis.
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No, it is not something everyone ought to know!
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Re: LTspice vs ngspice 12AU7 tube amplifier transient analysis
What is 'MNA', please?
On 2025-03-10 16:48, Carlo wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 09:03 AM, Andy I wrote:
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But does it start with initial voltages, or with initial
currents, as the first step?? I can't even say that much.
From the fact that the MNA system is based on node voltages as
unknowns (including currents for voltage sources) and there
exists the .NODESET directive for node voltages to aid NR
convergence, I believe the first NR iteration is done using
hints (or zero) for devices'voltage.
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Carlo.
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Re: LTspice vs ngspice 12AU7 tube amplifier transient analysis
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 09:03 AM, Andy I wrote:
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But does it start with initial voltages, or with initial currents, as the first step?? I can't even say that much.
From the fact that the MNA system is based on node voltages as unknowns (including currents for voltage sources) and there exists the .NODESET directive for node voltages to aid NR convergence, I believe the first NR iteration is done using hints (or zero) for devices'voltage.
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Carlo.
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Re: LTspice vs ngspice 12AU7 tube amplifier transient analysis
On 3/4/25 12:36 PM, Carlo wrote: I've no idea why their ITS solutions are so different though... * Heater model * * Can be operated from AC or DC power sources. * NB: When operating from DC power sources, "Skip initial transient * solution" must be checked, to make use of this model. * You can beat your brain in as much as you want but you might want a different model. Maybe even the NH12AU7 model which doesn't include the heater. Connect the LM317 to a resistor stand in for the heater. -- David Schultz "The cheeper the crook, the gaudier the patter." - Sam Spade
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Re: LTspice vs ngspice 12AU7 tube amplifier transient analysis
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 06:33 AM, Carlo wrote:
... Without any .NODESET statement I believe the NR initial "guess/hint" for devices' voltage is actually zero.
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Can you confirm my understanding?
Not being intimately familiar with the inner workings, I can not confirm anything.
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But I will agree with the assumption that the initial guess about every node voltage - except for those actually driven by independent voltage sources - probably is zero.? I think it would not be sensible to start with voltages other than zero, would it?
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But does it start with initial voltages, or with initial currents, as the first step?? I can't even say that much.
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Andy
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
So I tried. You can't use the word 'schematic'
in a question without uploading a schematic! This is not
sensible. I worked round it by writing 'circuit diagram'
instead. Three cheers for British English!
On 2025-03-10 12:56, John Woodgate
wrote:
Thanks, Tony. I will try.
On 2025-03-10 12:50, Tony Casey
wrote:
You have to start a discussion and title it "Feature Request, or
similar.
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Regards,
Tony
On 10/03/2025 12:51, John Woodgate wrote:
It
is black if the background is set to white, as I have it, but
the default background is black. The white dots are no more
visible. How do I ask ADI to consider a larger dot option, or
a grid option? I looked on EZ, but I don't see anything but
discussions.
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
Thanks, Tony. I will try.
On 2025-03-10 12:50, Tony Casey wrote:
You have to start a discussion and title it "Feature Request, or
similar.
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Regards,
Tony
On 10/03/2025 12:51, John Woodgate wrote:
It
is black if the background is set to white, as I have it, but
the default background is black. The white dots are no more
visible. How do I ask ADI to consider a larger dot option, or a
grid option? I looked on EZ, but I don't see anything but
discussions.
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If something is true:
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*for certain - it's mathematics
*unquestionably - it's religion
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
You have to start a discussion and title it "Feature Request, or
similar.
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Regards,
Tony
On 10/03/2025 12:51, John Woodgate wrote:
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It is
black if the background is set to white, as I have it, but the
default background is black. The white dots are no more visible.
How do I ask ADI to consider a larger dot option, or a grid
option? I looked on EZ, but I don't see anything but discussions.
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
It is black if the background is set to white,
as I have it, but the default background is black. The white
dots are no more visible. How do I ask ADI to consider a larger
dot option, or a grid option? I looked on EZ, but I don't see
anything but discussions.
On 2025-03-10 11:19, Tony Casey wrote:
On 10/03/2025 11:42, Alan Pearce via
groups.io wrote:
I
thought there was an option to change the dot size, but maybe
there isn't. Don't have a copy handy to check at the moment.
No there isn't, but there is an option to set the dot colour, but
I think the default is black, anyway.
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Regards,
Tony
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
On 10/03/2025 11:42, Alan Pearce via
groups.io wrote:
I
thought there was an option to change the dot size, but maybe
there isn't. Don't have a copy handy to check at the moment.
No there isn't, but there is an option to set the dot colour, but I
think the default is black, anyway.
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Regards,
Tony
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Re: Schematic drawing issues
I thought there was an option to change the dot size, but maybe there isn't. Don't have a copy handy to check at the moment.
Thanks, Andy. I have to print to .JPG, and
doing that directly from LTspice doesn't produce a good output,
so I Print Screen and copy to Irfanview, crop and print from
there. I think I will ask for an option to make the dots
actually visible.
On 2025-03-09 23:59, Andy I via
wrote:
On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 06:07 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
1. I have the background
colour for both schematics and waveforms set to white,
because that saves a lot of toner when printing out.
The on-screen background color does not affect the printed
output, in my experience.? That is true whether or not I have
"Print Monochrome" selected, at least when printing to PDF.? I
suppose Your Mileage May Vary.
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I wonder what I should
see, with the grid enabled.
For schematic grids, you should see dots, not lines.? They are
so tiny, I can barely see them.? Changing the on-screen colors
does not seem to help me see them better.? Perhaps LTspice uses
a size of 1 pixel, making them less apparent with high-res
displays.? As far as I know, the schematic grid dots are
on-screen only, not in the Printed output.? As you might notice
(if you can see them), the on-screen dot spacing is not the
functional grid spacing when you zoom out.? That is, it may show
you one grid dot for every 2 or 4 or X functional grids -
presumably so that the screen does not become filled with dots.
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In contrast, the waveform grids are dotted lines, and they
are much more visible.? I have to tone-down their color so that
they don't overwhelm the waveform lines.
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Carlo
Tony Casey