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No MAX31740 Spice Model

 

Looking for an LTspice model for the MAX 31740 Ultra-Simple Fan-Speed Controller.? Although AD has apparently acquired Maxim, they haven't developed a model for this device.? Has any members attempted to create one?
Thanks,
John


Re: Sim speed

 

That's the home PC:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
System Name XOTIC-PC
System Manufacturer ASUS
System Model System Product Name
Processor 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900K, 3000 Mhz, 24 Core(s), 32 Logical Processor(s)
BaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
BaseBoard Product ROG STRIX Z790-E GAMING WIFI
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 128 GB
Total Physical Memory 128 GB
Available Physical Memory 72.0 GB (Ramdisk is taking 64G)
Total Virtual Memory 170 GB
Available Virtual Memory 79.8 GB
Page File Space 41.8 GB


On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 4:38?PM eetech00 via <eetech00=[email protected]> wrote:
Instead of guessing, use Task Manager to check the performance.
You should be able to easily see which resource is being used the most.

Are you sure the work PC has 128GB of ram?
Specifically, which processor?



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Re: Sim speed

 

Instead of guessing, use Task Manager to check the performance.
You should be able to easily see which resource is being used the most.

Are you sure the work PC has 128GB of ram?
Specifically, which processor?


Re: Sim speed

 

David asked, "Aren't they in the folder you're working in by default?"

LTspice also has a location for "Temporary Files".? Go to its Control Panel > Operation tab.? It's at the bottom of that tab.? I think the default location is your Windows Temp folder.

I do not know with certainty what is meant by those Temporary Files.? LTspice's Help suggests that they are created when doing a Sync Release, so it is not while simulating.? I also once saw it suggested that the Temporary Files location was used while doing a Conversion of .RAW files to Fast Access.? Again, that is not while simulating.

I suppose it is possible that LTspice opens additional unnamed Temporary Files while it is simulating, and it's possible that we don't see those files while it's running.? I am not aware that LTspice does this, but I would not totally discount the possibility.? The files it creates while simulating include the .NET, .LOG, and .RAW files, of which only the .NET file is really temporary.? But the .LOG and .RAW files can optionally be directed to a different directory location, separate from your default (schematic) location.? You would not want that to be anywhere with slower access.

Andy


Re: Sim speed

 

Aren't they in the folder you're working in by default?

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 12:24?PM imnoexpertbut via <mdmyh55=[email protected]> wrote:
Have you modified the settings in LTspice so that? temporary files and working files are in a folder on the ramdisk?



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Re: .imp file

 

Actually, FFT and Inverse FFT are essentially the same algorithms, so the second FFT is really an IFFT, converting the spectrum back into a time-domain waveform.

I expect that the .imp file is the same sort of binary file as an .fft or .raw file.? It should have a readable header at the top that lists the LTspice settings and the signal name, followed by binary data for the remainder of the file.

Obviously it has nothing whatsoever to do with Adobe Audition, but that was the result?because it may be the most common use of ".imp" as a filename's extension.? The web search doesn't check what is actually inside the file.? Nobody actually "owns" any filename extension.

Andy


Re: .imp file

 

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I don’t recommend opening it with a text editor.

11 lines of text, describing the file, 1 line “Binary:”, and 4 MB of … binary.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2023 12:41 PM
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Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [LTspice] .imp file

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I didn't intend to do an FFT of an FFT, but that might have happened by accident.? A spectrum of a spectrum is a cepstrum, which has similar anagrammatic concepts such as quefrency.

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On 2023-07-02 20:31, Andy I wrote:

John wrote, "but I've never seen an .IMP file before."

So you probably never did an FFT of an FFT before.? I think that is the only time you get such a file.? LTspice's Help recommends doing that as a way to get uniform timesteps.? There might be other reasons to do it, but it's not the first thing I ever think of doing.

Andy


Re: .imp file

 

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I didn't intend to do an FFT of an FFT, but that might have happened by accident.? A spectrum of a spectrum is a cepstrum, which has similar anagrammatic concepts such as quefrency.

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On 2023-07-02 20:31, Andy I wrote:

John wrote, "but I've never seen an .IMP file before."

So you probably never did an FFT of an FFT before.? I think that is the only time you get such a file.? LTspice's Help recommends doing that as a way to get uniform timesteps.? There might be other reasons to do it, but it's not the first thing I ever think of doing.

Andy


Re: .imp file

 

John wrote, "but I've never seen an .IMP file before."

So you probably never did an FFT of an FFT before.? I think that is the only time you get such a file.? LTspice's Help recommends doing that as a way to get uniform timesteps.? There might be other reasons to do it, but it's not the first thing I ever think of doing.

Andy


Re: .imp file

 

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Well, I have done? a lot of FFTs in the past , and .FOUR, but I've never seen an .IMP file before.

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On 2023-07-02 20:24, Andy I wrote:

It is indeed an "Impulse response" file, the result of performing an FFT of the FFT's output.? Like regular .fft files, LTspice leaves it around for you to delete if you choose to.? If I'm not mistaken, I think you can also drag and drop it in LTspice if you want to see it again.? Otherwise, it's not of much use to you.

Andy


Re: .imp file

 

It is indeed an "Impulse response" file, the result of performing an FFT of the FFT's output.? Like regular .fft files, LTspice leaves it around for you to delete if you choose to.? If I'm not mistaken, I think you can also drag and drop it in LTspice if you want to see it again.? Otherwise, it's not of much use to you.

Andy


Re: Sim speed

 

Have you modified the settings in LTspice so that? temporary files and working files are in a folder on the ramdisk?


Re: .imp file

 

This is an impulse response output from LTspice. I think it is the FFT of an FFT done. You can delete it.


Re: Importing 2N7000

 

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On 02/07/2023 19:05, John Woodgate wrote:
Isn't the normal way of doing this to create a 'Project' folder that automatically contains folders for each data type (i.e. each .extension) that can all 'see' each other? Like a PCB design project.
The problem with this is it won't contain anything from LTspice's distribution. We know that, over time, devices are added to standard libraries. But also devices are deleted - usually without announcement. If a project uses any of those, it won't be able to find them. This is what has happened to many of LTspice's own example schematics, which are currently being fixed - there are hundreds of them.

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Re: .imp file

 

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On 02/07/2023 18:53, John Woodgate wrote:
I just did a simulation of a simple active filter, to look at distortion of the filtered signal, and after LTspice has closed, it has left a file called 'Filter.imp' in the schematic folder. It's 4097 KB, but LTspice won't open it. A web search suggests that it is a Adobe Audition file. I don't want to have to buy Audition! Changelog doesn't give a clue.
Try opening it in a text editor just for a look, or just try dragging it from Explorer into an open LTspice session - it would then be opened by LTspice as a text file. LTspice initially assumes everything is text unless it turns out not to be.

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Re: Importing 2N7000

 

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On 02/07/2023 18:59, eetech00 via groups.io wrote:
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 09:21 AM, Tony Casey wrote:
Another way that this issue could be solved is an "archive" function, that collects together all the files a project needs and puts them a zip. Ideally, this should be an LTspice function, as it already knows where it got all the files a schematic uses.
Hmm. interestingly, I happen to be working on a powershell script to do just that (although, I'm guessing yours would probably be designed for linux OS).
I imagine, however, that there would have to be options configured by the user to cover the multitude of library management methods.
No, the first very basic mockup was done in a bash script, simply to get an idea how it should work. But anything for the masses has to be multi-platform. I'd not even considered Powershell. I don't know if it is supported in Wine. I don't see why it shouldn't be. DOS cmd scripting works, but after bash, using it is just horrible. Python is inherently multi-platform and can do just about anything. There's also no reason it can't be done in C/C++ and compiled for almost any platform with GCC.

Like I said, though, ideally it should be within LTspice. Other simulators and EDA tools have had this kind of functionality for decades. Vlad and I also talked about this some years ago. Maybe he got further than I did. But I think he was also working in bash at the time, as a fellow Arch Linux user.

If you manage to get something running, I'm sure it would be very well received and appreciated.

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Re: Importing 2N7000

 

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I have a folder named "Components", where I put the basic sims of individual devices. Each one has a folder with the .asc, .sym and model in it.

When I want to sim a circuit that usees one of these devices, I open the .asc, copy the device and .inc or .sub command into the new file. Then I need to open both the "Components" folder and the folder in which I have created the new circuit for copying the needed .sym and model files.

Wouldn't it be nice if just copying the device would simultaneously copy the other files?

Le 02/07/2023 à 19:05, John Woodgate a écrit?:

Isn't the normal way of doing this to create a 'Project' folder that automatically contains folders for each data type (i.e. each .extension) that can all 'see' each other? Like a PCB design project.

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On 2023-07-02 17:59, eetech00 via groups.io wrote:
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 09:21 AM, Tony Casey wrote:
Another way that this issue could be solved is an "archive" function, that collects together all the files a project needs and puts them a zip. Ideally, this should be an LTspice function, as it already knows where it got all the files a schematic uses.
Hmm. interestingly, I happen to be working on a powershell script to do just that (although, I'm guessing yours would probably be designed for linux OS).
I imagine, however, that there would have to be options configured by the user to cover the multitude of library management methods.


Re: Importing 2N7000

 

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Isn't the normal way of doing this to create a 'Project' folder that automatically contains folders for each data type (i.e. each .extension) that can all 'see' each other? Like a PCB design project.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-07-02 17:59, eetech00 via groups.io wrote:

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 09:21 AM, Tony Casey wrote:
Another way that this issue could be solved is an "archive" function, that collects together all the files a project needs and puts them a zip. Ideally, this should be an LTspice function, as it already knows where it got all the files a schematic uses.
Hmm. interestingly, I happen to be working on a powershell script to do just that (although, I'm guessing yours would probably be designed for linux OS).
I imagine, however, that there would have to be options configured by the user to cover the multitude of library management methods.


Re: Importing 2N7000

 

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 09:21 AM, Tony Casey wrote:
Another way that this issue could be solved is an "archive" function, that collects together all the files a project needs and puts them a zip. Ideally, this should be an LTspice function, as it already knows where it got all the files a schematic uses.
Hmm. interestingly, I happen to be working on a powershell script to do just that (although, I'm guessing yours would probably be designed for linux OS).
I imagine, however, that there would have to be options configured by the user to cover the multitude of library management methods.


.imp file

 

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I just did a simulation of a simple active filter, to look at distortion of the filtered signal, and after LTspice has closed, it has left a file called 'Filter.imp' in the schematic folder. It's 4097 KB, but LTspice won't open it. A web search suggests that it is a Adobe Audition file. I don't want to have to buy Audition! Changelog doesn't give a clue.

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)