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Pre-War List of Osada in Kresy
Elizabeth Olsson
Greetings listers,
I have forwarded your question to my Mother (in London). Meanwhile, the first Kresy Book "Wspomnienia z osad wojskowych 1921-1940" includes a list of 87 military settlements and 2 civilian, giving addresses: gm, pow and woj. Some of the articles include lists of names of the settlers too. Maybe not 100% accurate but it's always a start. There are maps and photos too. If anyone wants me to check a specific osada for names, contact me privately. Elzunia Olsson (in Sweden) <<<From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...> Subject: Re: Pre-War List of Osada in Kresy Building on Ewa's letter, I would think that the old "association of osadnicy" may have had an archive in the Polish national archives somewhere - and it would probably have the list of osady, maps, etc. Perhaps Elzunia Olssen can ask her Mum (who is connected to the Association of the Families of the Borderland Settlers) about the name of the old association of settlers. Also, the 2nd Republic Polish government would have had files on the land grants, and they may have been preserved in the national archives in Warsaw. Can anybody suggest a way to move forward with this? Stefan>>> <<<Does anyone know whether or not the Government of Poland ever compiled a complete list of all Kresy osada (settlements) that were in existence prior to the start of World War II? Since many osada were totally destroyed during the War or by the Soviets, I would hate to think that there is no official record of these places. It would also be nice to know exactly which osada were destroyed and which (hopefully) were incorporated into the villages that they were next to, but I know it would be a miracle to find this out! Paul Havers, also a member of our group, has put forth his best effort as always, and has a list of osada on his Kresy site, but it is not all inclusive. It occurred to me that if one does not know which village was next to the osada or village in question, one may never be able to locate the place, which is truly horrible. I am fortunate in that I do know the name of the place of my father's birth. It was Hallerczyn, next to the village of Wysocko, which is near Brody. The Wisniowski and Jesionka families were deported from Brody on the same day, 10 February 1940. Of course, you all know Stefan Wisniowski, who is the moderator of this list. My grandfather Maksymilian owned the mill in Hallerczyn. I think Stefan's grandfather was similar to what we call in the US, the county extension agent. His job was to inform local farmers of the newest methods or to help them with specific problems related to farming. We both like to think our grandfathers knew one another, and I am fairly certain that they did. I can imagine Stefan's grandfather asking mine, "Maks, from what you've seen of the crops, who needs my help?" Eve Jankowicz New Jersey, USA >>> |
Hello swisniowski@... (Stefan Wisniowski),
Hello Everyone, I recently received an email from someone who is researching the KOBYLANSKI line. ?She has informed me that there are organizations in Poland that are working to makd known the information about our ancestors who had been "relocated" to Syberia and Kazakhstan. ?She didn't give addresses for some of them, but I have written to ask her for them. ?Here are the names and information that she gave me. ?I hope these will help our cause. IN Wroclaw: Children of Siberia ?Polish children who sere sent to Siberia Sybiracy adults who survived Siberia and returned to Poland ?(name not given) Organis ?Collection documents or stories and reports regarding Ukrainian slaughter of Poles New State office in Poland called IPN InstytutPamieci Narodowej ?National Memory ???????????Collecting archives ?Will soon be able to give information, do research or ?????????? ???????????investigations. I know this is not a definitive list, but I am waiting for more information! ?Will pass it on as it is recieved. Websites coming next! Jan Birkner In reference to your comment: ¨¨ Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Pre-War List of Osada in ¨¨ KresyCan ¨¨ anybody suggest a way to move forward with this? ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Pre-War List of Osada in Kresy Date: 11/12/01 10:55:38 PM Eastern Standard Time From:? ? swisniowski@... (Stefan Wisniowski) Reply-to: Kresy-Siberia@... To:? ? Kresy-Siberia@... Building on Ewa's letter, I would think that the old "association of osadnicy" may have had an archive in the Polish national archives somewhere - and it would probably have the list of osady, maps, etc. ? Perhaps Elzunia Olssen can ask her Mum (who is connected to the Association of the Families of the Borderland Settlers) about the name of the old association of settlers. ?Also, the 2nd Republic Polish government would have had files on the land grants, and they may have been preserved in the national archives in Warsaw. ? Can anybody suggest a way to move forward with this? Stefan
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