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Chzurga-Szoksza
Dear group! Spread file transferred from an audio eyewitnesses of Lukinskaja Nadezhda of special settlement (spiecposiolok) Chzurga Velskiy district (rajon) Arkhangelsk region. This expedition was in August last year. My search for traces of my grandfather in the Komi is not success.?Therefore, I will not go to Komi, as I planed. - In August 2013 again I will go to Vel'sk, may be Konosha region. One route is already planned - posiolok Szoksza, there were sent osadnik's families from my oun Nowogrudek woj. in February 1940. If anyone has any questions for me - write privately. Stan from M. |
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Marta Debska from Wroc?aw, Poland
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I believe we may share relatives because my family or Podolanski and Oborski who were from the Tarnopol Oblast, living among other places Skalat and My great grandfather was a police officer in the oblast. Yours Paul/Pawel Manchester UK -----Original Message----- From: Helen Bitner To: Kresy-Siberia Sent: Sat, 4 May 2013 10:44 Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Marta Debska from Wroc?aw, Poland
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Please welcome new member Marta. Her great ?grandfather was Ignacy Oborski??born in 1889. He was from Petryków (near Tarnopol). Ignacy?was a police comissioner in Tarnopol and in Lwów. He was ?imprisoned in Ostaszków, murdered in Twer, and buried near Miednoje.
His wife Katarzyna and children were sent to Kazakhstan. The children were??Eugenia , Marta's grandmother ?who was the eldest and then Jerzy, Czes?awa, Franciszek and Jadwiga.
Marta and her family ?want to learn more about Petrykow, and Tarnopol and are interested in researching the ?early Oborski family particularly?Franciszek , the father of Ignacy Oborski.
Welcome once more Marta and I wish you much success in your research.
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester UK
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Introducing new member Marta Debska from Wroc?aw, Poland
Helen Bitner
开云体育Dear group Please welcome new member Marta. Her great ?grandfather was Ignacy Oborski??born in 1889. He was from Petryków (near Tarnopol). Ignacy?was a police comissioner in Tarnopol and in Lwów. He was ?imprisoned in Ostaszków, murdered in Twer, and buried near Miednoje. His wife Katarzyna and children were sent to Kazakhstan. The children were??Eugenia , Marta's grandmother ?who was the eldest and then Jerzy, Czes?awa, Franciszek and Jadwiga. Marta and her family ?want to learn more about Petrykow, and Tarnopol and are interested in researching the ?early Oborski family particularly?Franciszek , the father of Ignacy Oborski. Welcome once more Marta and I wish you much success in your research. Kind regards Helen Bitner Colchester UK |
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Visit of Minster Rados?aw Sirkoski in Wellington
Trzeci May, Poland's National Day was celebrated in Wellington in style although the weather was a bit cool and drizzly. Beata Stoczinska the Polish ambassador to New Zealand had organised a very scintillating day of activities to commemorate 40 years of diplomatic relationship between Poland and New Zealand. ? I attended the wreath laying ceremony by Minister Sikorski at the Polish Children of Pahiatua commemorative plaque on Wellington wharf. John Roy-Woyciechowski the Polish Honorary consul was there with his wife, Valerie. Of the original Polish children there was Eugenia Smolnicka (my Mum), Maria Wypych, Zdzis?aw and Helena Lepionka, John Roy-Woyciechowski and Krystyna Tomaszek. ? Please find attached a few photos from the ceremony. Unfortunately I got some water droplets on the lens of my camera. ? Anna Applebaum is an amazing speaker. I enjoyed hearing her speak at the public presentation at Unity Book store where she talked about her book 'The Iron Curtain, The Crashing of Eastern Europe 1945 - 1956'. Later in the afternoon the panel discussion with Minister Sikorski was interesting with New Zealand academics pleading for more visits from European politicians to New Zealand. They talked about the values of NZ and Poland being very similar.?? ? Trzeci May celebrations organised by the Polish Embassy was hosted at the Wellington Club in the early evening where Minister Sikorski gave a speech. He thanked the New Zealand government for what they did for the Polish Children in 1945. Minister Sikorski presented honorary distinction to members of NZ Institute of Internation Affairs and National Centre for Research on Europe ?Both the New Zealand and Polish anthems were sung and led beautifully by Olga Gryniewicz followed by a recital of Polish jazz and sung poetry.? ? A wonderful day. Please find photos of the laying of wreath ceremony attached. The DomPost Saturday paper gave a good coverage of the laying of the wreath ceremony. The text was a little different that what was published in . It included a picture provided by Maria Wypych of kindergarten children at the camp with Maria as their care giver. |
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Re: Welcome new member Irena Lowe from Wellington, New Zealand
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Good to think I am a member again. My family connection is through both my Mum and Dad. Mum came from Lachowice near Baranowicze (Belarus today). My mum was deported with both her father, Michał and mother Antonina to Połudnowice in Archangelst. Amnesty saw them go south to Uzbechstan where Michał joined the Polish army. Antonina and Mum (Genia) ended up working in a kolholz near Buchara. Antonina gave up my mother (12 years old) to a children's home and allowed her to move to Iran with other orphans. Antonina died waiting for a transport to Poland in Uzbechstan. Genia although very ill eventually found her health in Teheran and Isfahan and eventually came to New Zealand in November 1944 and was one of the Pahiatua children refugees. Her father followed her to NZ a couple of years later. Genia was always gifted in sewing and made a career for herself as a dressmaker. My father, Adolf (known as Grzesio during war time) escaped the Nationalists in the Ukraine (Słanisławow) by crossing over to Hungary early in the war with a retreating Polish army unit. He was only 17/18 years old and belonged to the Home Army. He was interned in a camp in Hungary for some weeks/months? The Polish army eventually escaped from the camp and he made his way via the Bulkans to Athens arriving two weeks before the Germans captured Athens. He was part of the 3rd Caparthian Rifle Division of Ander's 2nd army. His unit moved to the Africa arena where he trained in Iraq. In Egypt, he was a messenger moving around on a motorcycle and one day through severe fatigue was involved in an accident and broke his leg badly below the knee. There followed a nine month period in hospital in Alexandra and eventually his leg was saved. He was to be shipped off to Africa but instead found his unit was in Italy and was given a jeep to deliver to them and found himself at Monte Casino as a driver for one of the commanders. After the war he completed his high school in Bologne before moving to Britain where he was demobilised in 1947. Because his unit had been involved in Tobruk, he was given free passage to Tasmania and arrived in September 1947. Here he worked on the dams and was given Australian citizenship on arrival. Mum and Dad got to know each other as penpals. Dad eventually moved to New Zealand and married Mum. I have three brothers and one sister. We all live in Wellington. Mum Eugenia Smolnicka is alive and living in Petone, Wellington. I grew up in the Polish community of Wellington. --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "Stefan" <stefan.wisniowski@...> wrote:
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Baryluk family
Dear Group, I suppose I am on a fishing trip, I am producing a family tree and recently started on my wife's side of the family. Barbara, my wife, was born in Flintshire, North Wales at which time her parents Stanislaw Syrda and Stephanie Syrda, nee Baryluk lived in the Doddington Polish camp.
I know I have already mentioned some of this information but I will try and give a complete picture as I know it. Stephanie family was, Mother, Antonina Baryluk (nee Bezkorowajna) Dad Antoni Baryluk His Dad Michot Baryluk,his Mom Maria Mawryluk. From the wall the following names were listed which I believe are family Antonina Baryluk 10/03/1901, Jan Baryluk 15/03/1872, Katarzyna Baryluk ?/03/1879, Michal Baryluk 24/12/1926, Stefania (which is now spelt Stephanie) 22/07/1932. I believe there was also a sister to Stefanie, Anna who we believe died perhaps on route to Siberia. They lived in Liczkowce and were farmers. I have started to add information to the Kresy-Siberia site and then thought I had better wait until i have more concrete information on the family. Antoni Baryluk, I am unsure when and how he came to England but once here served in the Polish Resettlement Corps between 1946 and 1948. He sady died on 10/03/1949. Michal Baryluk arrived in England from Singapore on board the H S Somersetshire on 23/12/1947. Prior to that his last know address was India and he was a Polish Refugee Patient. Stanislaw Syrda was from Krakow, borne 01/12/1917 in Mnikow Krakow, Dad Wincety Syrda, Mom Yadwiga. I believe Stanislaw was part of the Polish Underground Army between 1943 and 1946. He arived in the UK 0n 26/10/1946 from San Giorgio Italy to the 79th Transit Camp, Poverty Lane Maghull. I believe at some point between 1942 and 1946 he may also have been know as Charles Dubois from Toul in France. Any lead that may help me to gather more family information would be appreciated, in particular how and when did they leave Liczkowce, what happened to Anna Baryluk. Thank you Group in anticipation of any help you are able to give. Barry and Barbara from England |
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Welcome new member Irena Lowe from Wellington, New Zealand
开云体育Irena welcome to group, you already know what this wonderful group can do and thank you for all your work as co-ordinator for Wellington NZ. Warmest regards, Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Stefan
Sent: Saturday, 04 May, 2013 3:48 PM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Welcome new member Irena Lowe from Wellington, New Zealand ? ? Please welcome Irena Lowe to the group, who has been serving as the Kresy-=Siberia co-ordinator for Wellington NZ for the past year, and is working on the New Zealand Refugees Exhibition Room of the Virtual Museum for unveiling in 2014, the 70th anniversary of the arrival of the Polish orphans in Pahiatua. |
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Welcome new member Irena Lowe from Wellington, New Zealand
Please welcome Irena Lowe to the group, who has been serving as the Kresy-=Siberia co-ordinator for Wellington NZ for the past year, and is working on the New Zealand Refugees Exhibition Room of the Virtual Museum for unveiling in 2014, the 70th anniversary of the arrival of the Polish orphans in Pahiatua.
Irena, would you introduce your family history to the group? Regards Stefan Wisniowski Sydney Australia |
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US Holocaust Museum looking for Polish victims of Nazi persecution
Dear group,
Interesting initiative for any Polish-Americans with history of Nazi persecution: The article reads: The United States Holocaust Museum presentation at the KF Monday, May 6, 2013, at 7:00pm The United States Holocaust Museum is reaching out to Polish-Americans to find Polish victims of Nazi persecution. Staff from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum will be presenting excerpts from its collection of testimonies about the Polish experience – including an interview with Jan Nowak, a resistance fighter in the Home Army during WWII. The program will also include the presentation of documents about Polish victims contained in the Museum's records and its International Tracing Service (ITS) archives, and how to research information about individuals. The Museum is actively seeking testimonies from Poles and other victims who experienced Nazi persecution first hand, as well as artifacts, documents, photographs and films to teach the lessons of the Holocaust and to stand as evidence of what happened for ages to come. The Museum maintains one of the largest Holocaust-related oral history archives in the world, with more than 12,500 interviews, including over 350 with Polish witnesses. It is also the Americas repository for the ITS collection, which contains diverse information about the persecution and murder of Poles, Jews and other non-Jewish victims under Nazi rule, including listings of camp arrivals, forced labor documents, Polish Catholic marriage deeds, etc. A living memorial to the Holocaust, the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum inspires citizens and leaders worldwide to confront hatred, prevent genocide and promote human dignity. Federal support guarantees the Museum's permanent place on the National Mall, and its far-reaching educational programs and global impact are made possible by generous donors. For more information, visit www.ushmm.org. Anna Pacewicz Sydney |
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Newspaper article on Radek Sikorski's visit to honour Sybiraks in New Zealand
开云体育Thanks Stefan. Very well written article.? Andrew. Sydney Australia.? To: kresy-siberia@... From: stefan.wisniowski@... Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 06:49:56 -0700 Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Newspaper article on Radek Sikorski's visit to honour Sybiraks in New Zealand ? Please see the following article about the Polish Foreign Minister's visit to New Zealand, where he paid homage to the Polish children who were given refuge in New Zealand after their evacuation from Siberia to Iran. Regards Stefan Wisniowski Sydney Australia ? Polish refugees remember harrowing journey REMEMBERING: Halina and Eric Lepionka at the wreath laying ceremony. They grew up in the Siberian gulag, travelled thousands of miles in harrowing drudgery across Russia to Persia, then sailed half way around the world to be greeted by thousands of smiling Kiwis. Today their odyssey was remembered on Wellington's waterfront as surviving Polish refugee children gathered for a wreath-laying with Polish foreign affairs minister Radoslaw Sikorski , who is visiting to mark the 40th anniversary of New Zealand-Poland diplomatic relations. ‘‘Today we are very grateful to the people of New Zealand who gave refuge to our children when they needed it - squeezed between Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia they were the victims and orphans of the gulag,'' the minister said. SOLEMN OCCASION: Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs Radoslaw Sikorski commemorates the arrival of Polish children to New Zealand in 1944. Among those attending were Eric and Halina Lepionka - two of the 733 child refugees who escaped war torn Europe and the Siberian forced labour?camps were their parents were put to work by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin.?Eric was eight when he arrived at the Pahiatua Children's Camp in 1944. ?Halina was just a baby so it wasn't until years later that they met at the Empress Ballroom in Ghuznee St and later cemented their relationship at?Sunday mass in Newtown's Polish church. Mr Lepionka said the horrors and highlights of the journey - which took them from Siberia to modern day Iran, then to refuge in rural New Zealand -?are in the back of his mind every day.?He remembered the minus 40 degrees Celsius Siberian winters.?‘‘When you slept you didn't lean against the wall because you'd stick to it... it's something that you only see in films,'' the 76-year-old retired builder?said.?By train, cart and foot the 240,000 first transport of Polish deportees from Stalin's Siberian labour camps, both adults and children, painstakingly made their way to British-controlled Persia. Mr Lepionka was then aged six, his mother died in Uzbekistan en route and his father returned to Poland after contracting typhoid - he never saw him?again.?Up to 2 million Poles had been deported to the labour camps and some estimates put the survival rate at just 20 per cent.‘‘There were streams of people walking with carts full of sick people. People were dying left, right and centre and there was no means of burying the?dead so they were just left on the side of the road,'' he said of the exodus. The refugees finally made it to the Persian city of Isfahan - from there 105 caregivers were selected to accompany 733 children aboard the USS?General George M. Randall, which docked in Wellington on November 1, 1944 to a warm fanfare from the New Zealand public.?They were then taken to their new home - the Polish Children's Camp in Pahiatua. Despite the initial language hurdles Mr Lepionka said ‘‘it was great playing with other New Zealand children and one of the biggest surprises was playing rugby.''?Mr Lepionka said Polish players excelled at the game and went on to dominate the ranks of Wairarapa-Bush rugby in the post-war era. The remarkable story is slowly gaining currency in Poland, where its telling was banned up until the fall of communism in 1989. - ? Fairfax NZ News?MATT STEWART |
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] importance of updated records on WALL OF NAMES (was Re Aleksander Pankiewicz on Wall of Names)
Yes Lenarda,
The 2 year schedule for moms giving birth seems almost like it was on a calendar like Christmas Day.
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To: Kresy-Siberia@... Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 8:02:49 PM Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] importance of updated records on WALL OF NAMES (was Re Aleksander Pankiewicz on Wall of Names) ?
Mark you do speak of good sense and importance of memory.?? Congratulations on your determination, your dog and bone tenacity in unravelling your family line and yes, they did have big families back then, my mother comes from a family of 8 (one died early from Measles) leaving 7 children ranging in years 1919 ?�“ 1935, who survived the war.
??Apparently it was practice for women, back then to have a child every 2 years, as being farmers, they needed to be self-sufficient and have many hands to work the land.
From my family name, my mother?�?s maiden name, Chmielewski, there are also notorious criminals, one was in charge of prison camp during the WWII and another took on the Polish king because he wanted to give a poor noble?�?s land to a Magnate (very rich person) without title and brought in Cossacks, to the battle, from which he was a descendant and the Great Battle of Chmielnik is recorded.?? Don?�?t know if any of these are related, but I can fantasize about the nicer one or was he a threat to the Polish Throne and I should ignore him?
Kind regards,
Lenarda, Australia
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From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Saturday, 04 May, 2013 8:19 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re Aleksander Pankiewicz on Wall of Names ?
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Can I add emphasis to Krystyna's message about how important it is to memorialize everyone we can possibly find? Personally,?there are only a few rewards for all the work done here, and 'claiming' a person and giving identity seems like the ultimate reward. The poor soul smiles down on us?for noticing after 70 years. It is really all there is to me. On this note, the Turkiewicz family can now confidently claim one of the two Jan Turkiewicz' from the Katyn lists. We continue to work on the one from the Katyn Forest list, but we believe we have confirmed that "Jan" from the Ukr list is the cousin of our grandfather Franciszek (also Ukr list) and will update the Wall of Names soon. This came about after getting Franciszek's birth record showing his father Michal, AND surprisingly, his grandfather Bartholomei. We then got records of two other children born to Bartholomei, (Franciszeks brothers) and one of those brothers is the dad of Jan. Jan was also a policeman. The 'arrest #' on the list was consecutive to Franciszek which lead to us bear down on him first. We now need to connect others, on we go. Big families in those days. I recall having the funniest name in grade school and the only 'Turkiewicz' in the phone book. Now I can find people with identical names, including, unfortunately, a bad criminal in the US! Thanks ? ? Mark T. Canada From: "kms0902@..." <kms0902@...> To: Kresy-Siberia@... Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 5:47:10 PM Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re Aleksander Pankiewicz on Wall of Names ?
Hello Barbara, ? I????????m afraid that the name was added to the Wall of Names from an archived list that we received, listing the 30,000 + members of the 3DSK (3rd Carpathian Rifles Division), and not by Mr. Pankiewicz himself, or a member of his family.? Consequently, we have no contact details for this person, and cannot even tell you whether this person is still living or not. ?
? Waleria Luro was added to the Wall from information that we have from Hoover Institute at Stanford University in San Francisco, where they have a copy of the school essay that she wrote while in the Middle East.? We would be very grateful if you would help Ms. Luro to complete her profile, by adding the missing details, as well as a photo of her to the profile.? Perhaps the Helena Luro that is also listed on the Wall as having written a school essay in the Middle East is related to Waleria, and perhaps you could assist in completing that profile as well.? (To edit a profile on the Wall, you need to log in to the Virtual Museum ??????�? click on LOG IN at the top of the page and fill in the online form ??????�? then click on EDIT PERSON on the profile). ? We truly appreciate every assistance with completing profiles on the Wall of Names, and taking them from a simple list of names, to profiles that are mini biographies of each person, and their experiences.? Adding a photo also helps to bring that person and their story to life! ? Do write to me directly (krystyna.szypowska@... ) should you have any questions. ? Krystyna Szypowska Winnipeg, Canada ? ? ? From: Barbara Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Aleksander Pankiewicz ? Does anybody by any chance know how I can get contact details for Aleksander Pankiewicz, whose name appears on the Wall of Names? I have been asked by a lady called Waleria Luro, whose name is also listed there. This lady is 90 years old and met Mr Pankiewicz in Siberia. She would very much like to get in touch with him if possible. Would be very grateful for your help. Best regards. Barbara Alison Ryszkowska |
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] importance of updated records on WALL OF NAMES (was Re Aleksander Pankiewicz on Wall of Names)
开云体育Mark you do speak of good sense and importance of memory.? Congratulations on your determination, your dog and bone tenacity in unravelling your family line and yes, they did have big families back then, my mother comes from a family of 8 (one died early from Measles) leaving 7 children ranging in years 1919 – 1935, who survived the war. ?Apparently it was practice for women, back then to have a child every 2 years, as being farmers, they needed to be self-sufficient and have many hands to work the land. From my family name, my mother’s maiden name, Chmielewski, there are also notorious criminals, one was in charge of prison camp during the WWII and another took on the Polish king because he wanted to give a poor noble’s land to a Magnate (very rich person) without title and brought in Cossacks, to the battle, from which he was a descendant and the Great Battle of Chmielnik is recorded.? Don’t know if any of these are related, but I can fantasize about the nicer one or was he a threat to the Polish Throne and I should ignore him? Kind regards, Lenarda, Australia ? ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Saturday, 04 May, 2013 8:19 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re Aleksander Pankiewicz on Wall of Names ? ? Can I add emphasis to Krystyna's message about how important it is to memorialize everyone we can possibly find? Personally,?there are only a few rewards for all the work done here, and 'claiming' a person and giving identity seems like the ultimate reward. The poor soul smiles down on us?for noticing after 70 years. It is really all there is to me. On this note, the Turkiewicz family can now confidently claim one of the two Jan Turkiewicz' from the Katyn lists. We continue to work on the one from the Katyn Forest list, but we believe we have confirmed that "Jan" from the Ukr list is the cousin of our grandfather Franciszek (also Ukr list) and will update the Wall of Names soon. This came about after getting Franciszek's birth record showing his father Michal, AND surprisingly, his grandfather Bartholomei. We then got records of two other children born to Bartholomei, (Franciszeks brothers) and one of those brothers is the dad of Jan. Jan was also a policeman. The 'arrest #' on the list was consecutive to Franciszek which lead to us bear down on him first. We now need to connect others, on we go. Big families in those days. I recall having the funniest name in grade school and the only 'Turkiewicz' in the phone book. Now I can find people with identical names, including, unfortunately, a bad criminal in the US! Thanks ? ? Mark T. From: "kms0902@..." <kms0902@...> ? Hello Barbara, ? I?�?m afraid that the name was added to the Wall of Names from an archived list that we received, listing the 30,000 + members of the 3DSK (3rd Carpathian Rifles Division), and not by Mr. Pankiewicz himself, or a member of his family.? Consequently, we have no contact details for this person, and cannot even tell you whether this person is still living or not. ?
? Waleria Luro was added to the Wall from information that we have from Hoover Institute at Stanford University in San Francisco, where they have a copy of the school essay that she wrote while in the Middle East.? We would be very grateful if you would help Ms. Luro to complete her profile, by adding the missing details, as well as a photo of her to the profile.? Perhaps the Helena Luro that is also listed on the Wall as having written a school essay in the Middle East is related to Waleria, and perhaps you could assist in completing that profile as well.? (To edit a profile on the Wall, you need to log in to the Virtual Museum ?�“ click on LOG IN at the top of the page and fill in the online form ?�“ then click on EDIT PERSON on the profile). ? We truly appreciate every assistance with completing profiles on the Wall of Names, and taking them from a simple list of names, to profiles that are mini biographies of each person, and their experiences.? Adding a photo also helps to bring that person and their story to life! ? Do write to me directly (krystyna.szypowska@... ) should you have any questions. ? Krystyna Szypowska Winnipeg, Canada ? ? ? From: Barbara Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Aleksander Pankiewicz ? Does anybody by any chance know how I can get contact details for Aleksander Pankiewicz, whose name appears on the Wall of Names? I have been asked by a lady called Waleria Luro, whose name is also listed there. This lady is 90 years old and met Mr Pankiewicz in Siberia. She would very much like to get in touch with him if possible. Would be very grateful for your help. Best regards. |
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Newspaper article on Radek Sikorski's visit to honour Sybiraks in New Zealand
开云体育Thanks Stefan, I may have missed this article otherwise.... ? My Dad was one of those 733 - this year I will take him back to Poland via Iran - will be the first time he has been back since deportation at age 6 ? Next year hopefully we travel to Siberia and Uzbekistan ? Cheers ? Richard New Zealand ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Lenarda Szymczak
Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013 8:23 a.m. To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Newspaper article on Radek Sikorski's visit to honour Sybiraks in New Zealand ? ? Stefan thank you for posting this article, it is of great importance, especially the line at the bottom of article - The remarkable story is slowly gaining currency in Poland, where its telling was banned up until the fall of communism in 1989. ? Kind regards Lenarda, Australia ? ? The remarkable story is slowly gaining currency in Poland, where its telling was banned up until the fall of communism in 1989. From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of stefan.wisniowski@... ? ? Please see the following article about the Polish Foreign Minister's visit to New Zealand, where he paid homage to the Polish children who were given refuge in New Zealand after their evacuation from Siberia to Iran. ? Regards Stefan Wisniowski Sydney Australia ? ? ? Polish refugees remember harrowing journey ? REMEMBERING: Halina and Eric Lepionka at the wreath laying ceremony. They grew up in the Siberian gulag, travelled thousands of miles in harrowing drudgery across Russia to Persia, then sailed half way around the world Today their odyssey was remembered on Wellington's waterfront as surviving Polish refugee children gathered for a wreath-laying with Polish foreign ‘‘Today we are very grateful to the people of New Zealand who gave refuge to our children when they needed it - squeezed between Nazi Germany SOLEMN OCCASION: Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs Radoslaw Sikorski commemorates the arrival of Polish children to New Zealand in 1944. ? Among those attending were Eric and Halina Lepionka - two of the 733 child refugees who escaped war torn Europe and the Siberian forced labour?camps were their parents were put to work by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin.?Eric was eight when he arrived at the Pahiatua Children's Camp in 1944. ?Halina was just a baby so it wasn't until years later that they met at the Empress Ballroom in Ghuznee St and later cemented their relationship at?Sunday mass in Newtown's Polish church. Mr Lepionka said the horrors and highlights of the journey - which took them from Siberia to modern day Iran, then to refuge in rural New Zealand -?are in the back of his mind every day.?He remembered the minus 40 degrees Celsius Siberian winters.?‘‘When you slept you didn't lean against the wall because you'd stick to it... it's something that you only see in films,'' the 76-year-old retired builder?said.?By train, cart and foot the 240,000 first transport of Polish deportees from Stalin's Siberian labour camps, both adults and children, painstakingly Mr Lepionka was then aged six, his mother died in Uzbekistan en route and his father returned to Poland after contracting typhoid - he never saw him?again.?Up to 2 million Poles had been deported to the labour camps and some estimates put the survival rate at just 20 per cent.‘‘There were streams of people walking with carts full of sick people. People were dying left, right and centre and there was no means of burying the?dead so they were just left on the side of the road,'' he said of the exodus. The refugees finally made it to the Persian city of Isfahan - from there 105 caregivers were selected to accompany 733 children aboard the USS?General George M. Randall, which docked in Wellington on November 1, 1944 to a warm fanfare from the New Zealand public.?They were then taken to their new home - the Polish Children's Camp in Pahiatua. The remarkable story is slowly gaining currency in Poland, where its telling was banned up until the fall of communism in 1989. - ? Fairfax NZ News?MATT STEWART ? ? |
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re Aleksander Pankiewicz on Wall of Names
Can I add emphasis to Krystyna's message about how important it is to memorialize everyone we can possibly find?
Personally,?there are only a few rewards for all the work done here, and 'claiming' a person and giving identity seems like the ultimate reward.
The poor soul smiles down on us?for noticing after 70 years.
It is really all there is to me.
On this note, the Turkiewicz family can now confidently claim one of the two Jan Turkiewicz' from the Katyn lists. We continue to work on the one from the Katyn Forest list, but we believe we have confirmed that "Jan" from the Ukr list is the cousin of our grandfather Franciszek (also Ukr list) and will update the Wall of Names soon.
This came about after getting Franciszek's birth record showing his father Michal, AND surprisingly, his grandfather Bartholomei.
We then got records of two other children born to Bartholomei, (Franciszeks brothers) and one of those brothers is the dad of Jan. Jan was also a policeman.
The 'arrest #' on the list was consecutive to Franciszek which lead to us bear down on him first.
We now need to connect others, on we go. Big families in those days.
I recall having the funniest name in grade school and the only 'Turkiewicz' in the phone book.
Now I can find people with identical names, including, unfortunately, a bad criminal in the US!
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Mark T.
Canada From: "kms0902@..."
To: Kresy-Siberia@... Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 5:47:10 PM Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re Aleksander Pankiewicz on Wall of Names ?
Hello Barbara,
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I?�?m afraid that the name was added to the Wall of Names from an archived list that we received, listing the 30,000 + members of the 3DSK (3rd Carpathian Rifles Division), and not by Mr. Pankiewicz himself, or a member of his family.? Consequently, we have no contact details for this person, and cannot even tell you whether this person is still living or not.
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Waleria Luro was added to the Wall from information that we have from Hoover Institute at Stanford University in San Francisco, where they have a copy of the school essay that she wrote while in the Middle East.? We would be very grateful if you would help Ms. Luro to complete her profile, by adding the missing details, as well as a photo of her to the profile.? Perhaps the Helena Luro that is also listed on the Wall as having written a school essay in the Middle East is related to Waleria, and perhaps you could assist in completing that profile as well.? (To edit a profile on the Wall, you need to log in to the Virtual Museum ?�“ click on LOG IN at the top of the page and fill in the online form ?�“ then click on EDIT PERSON on the profile).
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We truly appreciate every assistance with completing profiles on the Wall of Names, and taking them from a simple list of names, to profiles that are mini biographies of each person, and their experiences.? Adding a photo also helps to bring that person and their story to life!
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Do write to me directly (krystyna.szypowska@... ) should you have any questions.
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Krystyna Szypowska
Winnipeg, Canada
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From: Barbara
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Aleksander Pankiewicz ? Does anybody by any chance know how I can get contact details for Aleksander Pankiewicz, whose name appears on the Wall of Names? I have been asked by a lady called Waleria Luro, whose name is also listed there. This lady is 90 years old and met Mr Pankiewicz in Siberia. She would very much like to get in touch with him if possible. Would be very grateful for your help. Best regards. Barbara Alison Ryszkowska |
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Re Aleksander Pankiewicz on Wall of Names
开云体育Hello Barbara,
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I’m afraid that the name was added to the Wall of Names from an archived
list that we received, listing the 30,000 + members of the 3DSK
(3rd Carpathian Rifles Division), and not by Mr. Pankiewicz himself, or a member
of his family.? Consequently, we have no contact details for this person,
and cannot even tell you whether this person is still living or not.
?
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Waleria Luro was added to the Wall from information that we have from
Hoover Institute at Stanford University in San Francisco, where they have a copy
of the school essay that she wrote while in the Middle East.? We would be
very grateful if you would help Ms. Luro to complete her profile, by adding the
missing details, as well as a photo of her to the profile.? Perhaps the
Helena Luro that is also listed on the Wall as having written a school essay in
the Middle East is related to Waleria, and perhaps you could assist in
completing that profile as well.? (To edit a profile on the Wall, you need
to log in to the Virtual Museum – click on LOG IN at the top of the page and
fill in the online form – then click on EDIT PERSON on the profile).
?
We truly appreciate every assistance with completing profiles on the Wall
of Names, and taking them from a simple list of names, to profiles that are mini
biographies of each person, and their experiences.? Adding a photo also
helps to bring that person and their story to life!
?
Do write to me directly (krystyna.szypowska@...
) should you have any questions.
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Krystyna Szypowska
Winnipeg, Canada
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? From: Barbara
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Aleksander
Pankiewicz ?
Does anybody by any chance know how I can get contact details for Aleksander
Pankiewicz, whose name appears on the Wall of Names? I have been asked by a lady
called Waleria Luro, whose name is also listed there. This lady is 90 years old
and met Mr Pankiewicz in Siberia. She would very much like to get in touch with
him if possible. Would be very grateful for your help. Best
regards. |
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Aleksander Pankiewicz
Does anybody by any chance know how I can get contact details for Aleksander Pankiewicz, whose name appears on the Wall of Names? I have been asked by a lady called Waleria Luro, whose name is also listed there. This lady is 90 years old and met Mr Pankiewicz in Siberia. She would very much like to get in touch with him if possible. Would be very grateful for your help. Best regards.
Barbara Alison Ryszkowska |
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] 3rd May Constitution song (was Witaj Maj)
开云体育Janusz, this is a wonderful song? and I remember hearing it sung, by Polish people at parties and gatherings, in Australia when I was a little girl. ?So very moving and you can hear the emotion of the people as they sing. ?To Polish people singing was like breathing and a way of expressing their feelings. I almost did not open your post thinking it was spam, because it had subject matter only and no signature or country. All new and old members could you please remember to perhaps described what it is you are sharing, briefly would be good and sign your name and country at the bottom, so we know it is a member and not spam. Warmest regards, Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Janusz Maciuba
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Newspaper article on Radek Sikorski's visit to honour Sybiraks in New Zealand
开云体育Stefan thank you for posting this article, it is of great importance, especially the line at the bottom of article - The remarkable story is slowly gaining currency in Poland, where its telling was banned up until the fall of communism in 1989. ? Kind regards Lenarda, Australia ? ? The remarkable story is slowly gaining currency in Poland, where its telling was banned up until the fall of communism in 1989. From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of stefan.wisniowski@... ? ? Please see the following article about the Polish Foreign Minister's visit to New Zealand, where he paid homage to the Polish children who were given refuge in New Zealand after their evacuation from Siberia to Iran. ? Regards Stefan Wisniowski Sydney Australia ? ? ? Polish refugees remember harrowing journey ? REMEMBERING: Halina and Eric Lepionka at the wreath laying ceremony. They grew up in the Siberian gulag, travelled thousands of miles in harrowing drudgery across Russia to Persia, then sailed half way around the world Today their odyssey was remembered on Wellington's waterfront as surviving Polish refugee children gathered for a wreath-laying with Polish foreign ‘‘Today we are very grateful to the people of New Zealand who gave refuge to our children when they needed it - squeezed between Nazi Germany SOLEMN OCCASION: Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs Radoslaw Sikorski commemorates the arrival of Polish children to New Zealand in 1944. ? Among those attending were Eric and Halina Lepionka - two of the 733 child refugees who escaped war torn Europe and the Siberian forced labour?camps were their parents were put to work by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin.?Eric was eight when he arrived at the Pahiatua Children's Camp in 1944. ?Halina was just a baby so it wasn't until years later that they met at the Empress Ballroom in Ghuznee St and later cemented their relationship at?Sunday mass in Newtown's Polish church. Mr Lepionka said the horrors and highlights of the journey - which took them from Siberia to modern day Iran, then to refuge in rural New Zealand -?are in the back of his mind every day.?He remembered the minus 40 degrees Celsius Siberian winters.?‘‘When you slept you didn't lean against the wall because you'd stick to it... it's something that you only see in films,'' the 76-year-old retired builder?said.?By train, cart and foot the 240,000 first transport of Polish deportees from Stalin's Siberian labour camps, both adults and children, painstakingly Mr Lepionka was then aged six, his mother died in Uzbekistan en route and his father returned to Poland after contracting typhoid - he never saw him?again.?Up to 2 million Poles had been deported to the labour camps and some estimates put the survival rate at just 20 per cent.‘‘There were streams of people walking with carts full of sick people. People were dying left, right and centre and there was no means of burying the?dead so they were just left on the side of the road,'' he said of the exodus. The refugees finally made it to the Persian city of Isfahan - from there 105 caregivers were selected to accompany 733 children aboard the USS?General George M. Randall, which docked in Wellington on November 1, 1944 to a warm fanfare from the New Zealand public.?They were then taken to their new home - the Polish Children's Camp in Pahiatua. The remarkable story is slowly gaining currency in Poland, where its telling was banned up until the fall of communism in 1989. - ? Fairfax NZ News?MATT STEWART ? ? |
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] John Irvin making a film on Monte Cassino
You are right Mark, but it can be terribly frustrating.? The British particularly have been culprits at presenting historical facts to their advantage, even taking full credit where others have played the major role.? Bletchley Park and the decoding of the Enigma?is an example of this.? However, I have noticed on their website that they are now showing the Polish contribution?and taking some of the limelight away from Bletchley.?
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Barbara Alison Ryszkowska
London, UK
From: Mark
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013, 20:25 Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] John Irvin making a film on Monte Cassino ?
Not to be negative or to excuse, but usually with historical accounts, you can tell who the hero is going to be by checking first where the writer?comes from.
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Mark T. Canada
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From: Barbara Alison
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 2:47:25 PM Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] John Irvin making a film on Monte Cassino ?
Yes, exactly it should be interesting to see whether the Polish army will get its due credit in this film.? There have been programmes on TV in the past where they've spent almost an hour talking about Monte Cassino and?no one would even?know that the Poles had taken part in the battle.? I've had to send letters/emails of complaint for the total disregard of our soldiers.?
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Barbara Alison
London, UK
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From: "kms0902@..."
To: Kresy-Siberia@... Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2013, 23:23 Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] John Irvin making a film on Monte Cassino ?
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Krystyna Szypowska - Winnipeg, Canada |