All is good, we just have to wait a little longer to officially congratulate Colin and show our appreciation, but when it comes to a question in the future and the air has already been accidentally tested, then rest assured it is all very positive and we are eager ?as well. You didn¡¯t steal his thunder but now I feel like a kid looking at the Christmas Tree and knowing I cannot touch anything until after Christmass Mass.? Looking forward to speaking with Colin.

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Anna, this is a brilliant idea of Colin of overlay old onto new and updated. It would be so much easier to read and find.? I ?myself have marked geo co-ordinates for my mother¡¯s village and the German village of Henrykowka which was the next suburb, so to speak, across the river Niwna and you can see, from the air, even now, on google earth, ?disturbances in the vegetation and what looks to have been roads or trails and even fences. What used to be farmland, now regrown with young trees? It is all visible and if you do overlay old onto new and update, then it will be incredible memory.? Do not think any other organisation has done this and it possibly would be a first for research groups and KS Group would be the instigator and originator, the forerunner. ??Give it a go.

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Lenarda, Australia

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spellbinder_(TV_series)

Spellbinder (Polish: Dwa ?wiaty (Two worlds)) is a fantasy teen drama/science fiction television series, produced by Film Australia & Telewizja Polska in .?

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In the Katyn information, it says the burial sites were marked with Soviet flags so their own bombers could avoid, while bombing nearby.? Those who can read military maps, have a look at USSR maps of the time and see if flags are there, if they are shown, these could be original burial sites of Polish dead (Katyn).

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This link is very good but will not allow me to copy and paste but pages 304-307 are of interest. It appears to be directory to information and study material but excellent with lots of information. ?Lucky I used to be a typist/secretary/clerk ?¨C here goes a manual copy.

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NOTES TO PAGES 304-3007

....the trains or were too sick to go on board the ships. Contrary to Beria¡¯s report, many sick people died either in Krasnovodsk or on the ships for lack of basic sanitation and medication.

247. For Anders to Stalin on 31 July 1941, see KDZ 3/239. Koptelov¡¯S report to Stalin on 7 September 1942 was first published in Materski, Armia Polska, no.13; and English translation is in Materski, Kremlin versus Poland, no.6.? Stalin had agreed to the evacuation under considerable British pressure.? For Anders¡¯s account of his trip to London, his return to the USSR, his decision to evacuate all the troops and civilians, and the second evacuation, see Anders, Bez Ostatniego Rodzialu, pp.125-140; Anders, An Army in Exile, pp. 103-115.? See also British Colonel Alexander Ross¡¯s ¡°Report on Polish refugees in Persia: April 1942-December 1943¡±, in Beaupre-Stankiewicz et al., Isfahan, pp.80-90, with a table of ships and number of passengers per ship.

248. Many people died of these diseases; many also died when they ate food too rich for their stomachs, used to minimal intake for two years; see Beaupre-Stankiewicz et al., Isfahan, pp.61-68.

249. For a Polish translation, see Zbrodnia Katynska, p.85; for an English translation, see Crime of Katyn, pp.101-102, and DPSR, vol. I, no. 305.? For an earlier broadcast on the same day of a conference on the Katyn graves in the German Foreign Ministry, see Baliszewski and Kunert, Prawdziwa Historia, vol. 2, p. 1006? (Polish translation).

250. The Germans used the 10,000 figure because this was the number of missing officers cited by Polish authorities.? The GPU (State Political Administration) was the name of the Soviet Security Police in 1922-23; it was named OGPU from November 1923 to July 1934, then GUGB NKVD.? NKVD is the name generally used for the war period; see Amy W. Knight, The KGB: Police and Politics in the Soviet Union (Boston, 1988), p. 315.

251. This was the largest grave, shaped like an L; see the PRC report, doc. 105b. ?It probably held about 600 bodies.

252. Kozelsk is located north of Orel.? On Smorawinski, see Biographical Sketches.

253. Most of the Kozelsk officers were transported in prison railway cars through Smolensk to Gnezdovo between early April and mid-May 1940, but some were shot in Smolensk. ¡°Goat Hills,¡±so named after the hilly landscape of the burial site, had been sued for executions by the Cheka and its successors, perhaps as far back as the Russian Civil War of 1918-1922.

254. The Polish text appears in Stefania Stanislawska, ed., Sprawa Polska w Czasie Drugiej Wojny Swiatowej na Arenie Miedzynarodowej (The Polish Question during World War II in the International Arena) (Warsaw, 1965), part II, no. 69; Baliszewski and Kunert, Prawdziwa Historia, vol. 2, pp. 1010-1011.

255. According to the Polish record of the Stalin-Anders conversation of 18 March 1942, Stalin suggested that the prisoners might have dispersed in territories taken by the Germans; see note 239 (doc. 98).

256. The spelling is as in the DPSR, vol.I, no. 306.? The reference was to the well-known Gnezdovo ¡°Kurhan¡± burial mounds. The name of the village was Gnezdovo, and the use of ¡°¡±Gnezdova¡±and ¡°Gnezdovaya¡±was due to writing the text in a hurry.? According to a statement made in March 1989 to the Russian journal-................. and it goes on and on and on but I cannot copy and paste, so research will have to be done by each member individually.

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Edek and Chris, this is excellent find.? Now we need member, members who know the routine to enter site and retrieve information and hopefully post it to group so we can all share.

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Lenarda, Australia

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Chris, this is excellent, thank you so much, will follow it up.

Lenarda, Australia

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Ewa, this is eyewitness report of KARAMIN SHIP/VESSELL but so frustrating to find who owned it, where it came from and any official record.? The Caspian Sea was a landlocked sea and all ships on it should be known to someone and recorded, in some language. But officially there is very little record of the crossing, except from eyewitness reports from surviving Exiles. Research is cathartic and now we only have the huge task of allowing the world to experience this.

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Lenarda, Australia

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Dear Beata, I did see your name, but I had to be sure and now I am. ?You moved house, Wow. It is a great photo, so clear and an excellent contribution.? You were lucky, after I was born, almost on a street, with mother sitting on the steps of Granville Police Station, before they took mother to hospital and after we came back to ?live in ?Tent City, (made from Army tents) Clyde, New South Wales, which was for women and children only, with every nationality present and mother tells me with so many babies born, the cue for the hot water boiler and laundry room, was very long and you had to stand your ground between exhausted, determined women, whose language could match a soldier, ?with the only other alternative being to get there very early in the morning.? ?Lucky I do not remember, but have gratitude for mother and understand the resilience and bravery needed to start all over again in a new country, with new language, so different from your own.

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I am sure, there are many persons in New Zealand and overseas from NZ, who will see and appreciate the wonderful memories left behind.? Thank you for your contribution and others, because now we have permanent memory for all.

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After all the research I did last night, looking at starving children, it was a joy to see smiling faces on the children being brought to NZ ?on the same ship as the soldiers. With all they had survived, in their young years, they could manage a smile. This is courage.

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Lenarda, Australia

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Stan, research is not comfortable or easy, I do understand, even me who was born in free country had to stop, because too much in photos and information.? It hurts and no explanation is satisfactory as to why? We look, researching between the tears so we can help others in the future and bring something good back to this earth. This is why KS exists. Thank you for your work.

Lenarda, Australia

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John, I noticed this as well and believed me I looked in every corner of every site. Two possibilities, 1. These records are not open yet or 2. It was a ship from another country, as in all of maritime movements of USSR, Soviet, Russian there is no record of Polish evacuees, in the English or Polish language.? One possibility and I started to explore by google translating into Russian and then clicking on every translate function, not knowing what I was reading until it was translated, like a needle in a haystack, but it can be done. I did come up with documents of interest and actually posted one.

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It was noticed, at the same time, Russia was sending vessels, submarines down the Rivers to the Black Sea, the Caspian Sea, as it is landlocked and only way in by ship is down river and there is much documentation of Naval activity. ?Also, around the time of evacuations, there is in several different records, mention of German plane attacking Russian vessel and destroying it on the Caspian Sea.

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What amazes me, as a novice and not a historian, is that the Germans were moving down to the Caspian, the Russians were gathering forces to battle the Germans around the Caspian and the Polish Evacuees (Exiles) were attempting to get to safety at a 3^rd place, in-between all the WWII battles and at one stage, all three (3) German, Russian, Polish were there in different places, at the same time.? It is lucky the Polish got out at all or were the Angels protecting us? If you look at the big picture it is truly amazing and so complicated, the activity that was going on in that region and the poor locals, would have been stripped of food and resources by each group of people coming through.

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Perhaps Stan can look using the Russian language for more information? And from what I saw, there is much information not translated into English.

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Both of you are most welcome to any information found and happy to assist, in some small way to the epic task, both of you have taken on. ?Thank you.

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Lenarda, Australia

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