Good Evening,? I can send some money, no problem, hopefully you take venmo. Formyour questions 1. I agree 2. No idea 3. Digital is good 4. I dont need another mug, already out of room, but the thought is definitely appreciated. 5. Ok 6. No problem, I do it for the fun and enjoy talking to all the Hams. Like to sign up for this year also.
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On May 1, 2025, at 17:52, Steve (KS1G) via groups.io <ks1g04@...> wrote:
? David:
1. Happy to contribute to defray QSL expenses.? Let me know where to send funds by mail or Zelle. I'd like to keep cards,the annual themes are fun and I've been developing a collection over the years, and hope my grandsons will appreciate for at least a moment grandpas' cool postcards, although I realistically expect my wife or kids will eventually trash them.?? 2. I'm also OK with digital certificates.? ALL the ARISS SSTV events for example now use them. I can print out on color printer and fancy paper for the notebook with the QSL cards. 3. Don't need more mugs (although I do appreciate the K2B mugs we've been doing and happy to pay full cost if I order one) and bling; if they continue, it should be at no cost to the 13 Colonies organizer(s).
Looking forward to putting K2B on sats again this year.
73 Steve KS1G On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 9:31?AM David Wright K2WPM via <dwright= [email protected]> wrote: I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
?
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
?
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).? Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
?
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
?
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
?
Thoughts?
?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
?
Thanks,
?
David, K2WPM
?
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
?
?
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David:
1. Happy to contribute to defray QSL expenses.? Let me know where to send funds by mail or Zelle. I'd like to keep cards,the annual themes are fun and I've been developing a collection over the years, and hope my grandsons will appreciate for at least a moment grandpas' cool postcards, although I realistically expect my wife or kids will eventually trash them.?? 2. I'm also OK with digital certificates.? ALL the ARISS SSTV events for example now use them. I can print out on color printer and fancy paper for the notebook with the QSL cards. 3. Don't need more mugs (although I do appreciate the K2B mugs we've been doing and happy to pay full cost if I order one) and bling; if they continue, it should be at no cost to the 13 Colonies organizer(s).
Looking forward to putting K2B on sats again this year.
73 Steve KS1G On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 9:31?AM David Wright K2WPM via <dwright= [email protected]> wrote:
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
?
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
?
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).? Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
?
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
?
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
?
Thoughts?
?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
?
Thanks,
?
David, K2WPM
?
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
?
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Thanks Wes, appreciate that.
Sounds like consensus will be to (a) ask for $5 or $10 each to defray costs, and (b) keep the costs down.
David, K2WPM
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of D. Krantz (KO4GNE) via groups.io Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2025 5:24 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [K2B-13Colonies2024] 2025 Update 1: I¡¯ll be glad to contribute, let me know how and how much. 2: 3: Digital certificates are fine with me. 4: A mug very much appreciated in the past not necessary for me. 5: 6: No more bling is fine with me as well. Now W4WDK (Wesley) was Ko4gne On May 1, 2025, at 9:31?AM, David Wright K2WPM via groups.io <dwright@...> wrote:
1. Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2. If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3. Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead
I could do digital ones? (that saves maybe $100) 4. Should I not buy
mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120) 5. If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6. This also means no more bling.
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Carl, you¡¯re the best.
Let me see what the consensus is; $5 or $10 should be sufficient.
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David, K2WPM
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Carl Dennis NX3A via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2025 9:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K2B-13Colonies2024] 2025 Update
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Please send me your address and I would be happy to contribute $25.00 toward K2B expenses.
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but
that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of
this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help
him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).?
Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
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Thanks Chuck.
Yeah hundreds of dollars and hundreds of hours was beginning to get to me ¡.
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David, K2WPM
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Chuck K4QS via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2025 10:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K2B-13Colonies2024] 2025 Update
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I'm certainly willing to contribute to the cause.
We seem to have enough operators that it shouldn't be a financial burden for each of us to do so.
On Thursday, May 1, 2025 at 09:57:11 AM EDT, Carl Dennis NX3A via groups.io <nittany2288@...>
wrote:
Please send me your address and I would be happy to contribute $25.00 toward K2B expenses.
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.?
I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage
$2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've
always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional
bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).? Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026
by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
|
Thanks Stu, really appreciate.
After everyone¡¯s had a chance to comment, I¡¯ll circulate the consensus.
?
David, K2WPM
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Stu2 - W7IY via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2025 10:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K2B-13Colonies2024] 2025 Update
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Hi David - this is just my opinion and I can go with the flow. My general thought is to reduce the overall costs, first. As an operator, I don't need any more certificates, although I appreciate the 'thanks'. You can probably just email the certificate instead
of printing and mailing them.
I'm not sure I'm incentivized to be in the top 5 for a mug. Operating as K2B is a blast/honor and I really enjoy it. Maybe you could note the "top 5" standing in the digital certificate?
Can we send the QSL cards digitally? I know some people like paper cards. Maybe there is a way to request a card instead of automatically sending cards to everybody?
Finally - if you need $10 - $25 to support the effort from me, just let me know. I'm willing to donate to help defray the operational costs.
Stu2, W7IY
On 5/1/25 09:31, David Wright K2WPM via groups.io wrote:
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but
that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of
this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help
him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).?
Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
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1: I¡¯ll be glad to contribute, let me know how and how much.
2:
3: Digital certificates are fine with me.
4: A mug very much appreciated in the past not necessary for me.
5:
6: No more bling is fine with me as well.
Now W4WDK (Wesley) was Ko4gne
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On May 1, 2025, at 9:31?AM, David Wright K2WPM via groups.io <dwright@...> wrote:
1. Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2. If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3. Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones? (that saves maybe $100)
4. Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5. If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6. This also means no more bling.
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Thanks Lin.
Appreciate your thoughts and support.
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David, K2WPM
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Linwood Campbell K2LLC via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2025 10:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K2B-13Colonies2024] 2025 Update
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Good Morning David!
??????????????? Sorry to hear about Ken. ?I hope his health will get better. And let¡¯s hope his successor will be easy to work with and a great replacement (if that is possible!). And thank you again
for your commitment of time and resources, organization and leadership for us! ?What a great guy to work for - even if you are a lawyer hahaha! ?(I can say that because my daughter is a lawyer!)?
??????????????? Here are my thoughts in order of questions presented:
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses? ?
Yes - I ?don¡¯?think it is too much to ask to help offset the expense. And I don¡¯t think it is right for you to cover all the costs.
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs. ?I think we operators can cover it.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100).
From a pervious suggestion I think offering digital as the first option, and then printed cards as the 2nd would be a good idea. ?Wait until all the orders come in for QSL cards, and then print what you need.
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120).
It¡¯s a nice thought, but some sort of digital certificate would also serve the purpose. ?I know I have a bazillion coffee mugs so not sure one more would actually stand out in the crowd. ?BUT I understand totally the
recognition and the reminder of that accomplishment. ?A digital certificate could be used as a computer desktop screen saver, then you get to see that recognition all the time!!!!!!
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards. ?You are the boss - you can do whatever you want as far as I am concerned¡..
6.? This also means no more bling.
I certainly appreciate the Bling associated with the event, and I am grateful for those who have contributed to making that happen. ?If it means we can cover other expenses that need to take place (QSL Cards, etc.) then I vote for less or no Bling.?
??????????????? Thanks again for the leadership! ?Looking forward to being an Op this year!
?
On 5/1/25 09:31, David Wright K2WPM via groups.io wrote:
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but
that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of
this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help
him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).?
Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
?
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Kay, thanks for your thoughts.
Wise, as always.
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David, K2WPM
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Kay N3KN via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2025 11:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K2B-13Colonies2024] 2025 Update
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I'm glad the event will continue and appreciate what you and the other leaders are doing to ensure that. I hope Ken's health will be okay.
Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
Response: There may be operators who, for whatever reason, can't contribute money, so I wouldn't want this to be a hard & fast rule. However, I think that explaining what the expenses are and inviting operators
to contribute as their personal circumstances permit is a good idea. I will certainly be happy to put some $$ in the hat once you determine what the budget's going to be. No way should this all be on you.
Question 3: Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
Response: Yes! Major state QSO Parties are doing only electronic certificates now, so changing to digital certificates shouldn't shock anybody. Certificate-generating software exists, so that wheel doesn't
have to be invented from scratch.
I think we can do without the mugs and bling. Just being part of this event is an honor and a lot of fun for me.
I'm glad the event can continue. As for the other guy, well, I hope his operating is better than his arithmetic.
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On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 9:31?AM David Wright K2WPM via
<dwright=[email protected]> wrote:
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but
that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of
this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help
him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).?
Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
|
Thanks Dave, appreciated.
David, K2WPM
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Putman KE4S via groups.io Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2025 3:36 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [K2B-13Colonies2024] 2025 Update David & group: My station has been in somewhat of a rebuild the year.? I'm not sure how much BIC time I will be able to put in, but want to stay with the team. On the issue at hand: Q1 & Q2 - I agree with Kay, and will be happy to contribute. Q3: Digital cert as a screen saver would be great. Mugs, Bling: Not important for me 73 de Dave KE4S On 5/1/25 11:08, Kay N3KN via groups.io wrote: David & group:
I'm glad the event will continue and appreciate what you and the other
leaders are doing to ensure that. I hope Ken's health will be okay.
Questions 1 & 2:
Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to
defray these expenses?
If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small
sum annually to defray costs.
Response: There may be operators who, for whatever reason, can't
contribute money, so I wouldn't want this to be a hard & fast rule.
However, I think that explaining what the expenses are and inviting
operators to contribute as their personal circumstances permit is a
good idea. I will certainly be happy to put some $$ in the hat once
you determine what the budget's going to be. No way should this all be
on you.
Question 3: Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates --
instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
Response: Yes! Major state QSO Parties are doing only electronic
certificates now, so changing to digital certificates shouldn't shock
anybody. Certificate-generating software exists, so that wheel doesn't
have to be invented from scratch.
I think we can do without the mugs and bling. Just being part of this
event is an honor and a lot of fun for me.
I'm glad the event can continue. As for the other guy, well, I hope
his operating is better than his arithmetic.
73, Kay N3KN
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 9:31?AM David Wright K2WPM via groups.io
<> <dwright@...> wrote:
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and
boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He
appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it
to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not
happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to
discuss the Special Event going forward.
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and
expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards,
costing about $150, this year.
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he
netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of
certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year
on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of this revenue was used to
pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this
event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for
their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops
for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own
funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover costs, (b)
to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B
ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL
manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has
contributed very generously in the bling department!).? Also thank
K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol,
KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 --
starting to sound like real money!
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10
each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of
a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates --
instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
Thoughts?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like
to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
Thanks,
David, K2WPM
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a
special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th
birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
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Paul, thanks for your thoughtful comments.
?
W4OVT has been running 13-Colonies like event, year-round.
He has scheduled an event the same week as ours.
Bling last year was refrigerator magnet.
?
David, K2WPM
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Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2025 4:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [K2B-13Colonies2024] 2025 Update
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571-233-8578
"A man's rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box, and the cartridge-box."
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"Do today what others won't, so you can do tomorrow what others can't"
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On May 1, 2025, at 09:31, David Wright K2WPM via groups.io <dwright@...> wrote:
?
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but
that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of
this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help
him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).?
Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
Happy to contribute anything up to $100.
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
No.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
Digital ok (printable), hard copy if asked for.
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
You should, but defrayed by others.
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
What was the bling on the past?
Who is the 13 colonies wannabe? Website?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
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Comments in-line below¡ 571-233-8578
"A man's rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box, and the cartridge-box."?¡ª Frederick Douglass
"Do today what others won't, so you can do tomorrow what others can't"?¡ª Unknown On May 1, 2025, at 09:31, David Wright K2WPM via groups.io <dwright@...> wrote:
? I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
?
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
?
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).? Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
?
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
?
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
Happy to contribute anything up to $100.
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
No.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
Digital ok (printable), hard copy if asked for.
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
You should, but defrayed by others.
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
What was the bling on the past? Who is the 13 colonies wannabe? Website?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
?
Thanks,
?
David, K2WPM
?
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
?
?
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David & group:
My station has been in somewhat of a rebuild the year.? I'm not sure how much BIC time I will be able to put in, but want to stay with the team.? On the issue at hand:
Q1 & Q2 - I agree with Kay, and will be happy to contribute.
Q3: Digital cert as a screen saver would be great.
Mugs, Bling: Not important for me
73 de Dave KE4S
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On 5/1/25 11:08, Kay N3KN via groups.io wrote: David & group:
I'm glad the event will continue and appreciate what you and the other leaders are doing to ensure that. I hope Ken's health will be okay.
Questions 1 & 2:
Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
Response: There may be operators who, for whatever reason, can't contribute money, so I wouldn't want this to be a hard & fast rule. However, I think that explaining what the expenses are and inviting operators to contribute as their personal circumstances permit is a good idea. I will certainly be happy to put some $$ in the hat once you determine what the budget's going to be. No way should this all be on you.
Question 3: Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates --
instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
Response: Yes! Major state QSO Parties are doing only electronic certificates now, so changing to digital certificates shouldn't shock anybody. Certificate-generating software exists, so that wheel doesn't have to be invented from scratch.
I think we can do without the mugs and bling. Just being part of this event is an honor and a lot of fun for me.
I'm glad the event can continue. As for the other guy, well, I hope his operating is better than his arithmetic.
73, Kay N3KN
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 9:31?AM David Wright K2WPM via groups.io <> <dwright@...> wrote:
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and
boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He
appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it
to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not
happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to
discuss the Special Event going forward.
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and
expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards,
costing about $150, this year.
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he
netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of
certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year
on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of this revenue was used to
pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this
event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for
their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops
for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own
funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover costs, (b)
to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B
ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL
manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has
contributed very generously in the bling department!).? Also thank
K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol,
KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 --
starting to sound like real money!
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10
each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of
a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates --
instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
Thoughts?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like
to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
Thanks,
David, K2WPM
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a
special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th
birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
|
David & group: I'm glad the event will continue and appreciate what you and the other leaders are doing to ensure that. I hope Ken's health will be okay.
Questions 1 & 2:
Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs. Response: There may be operators who, for whatever reason, can't contribute money, so I wouldn't want this to be a hard & fast rule. However, I think that explaining what the expenses are and inviting operators to contribute as their personal circumstances permit is a good idea. I will certainly be happy to put some $$ in the hat once you determine what the budget's going to be. No way should this all be on you.
Question 3: Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
Response: Yes! Major state QSO Parties are doing only electronic certificates now, so changing to digital certificates shouldn't shock anybody. Certificate-generating software exists, so that wheel doesn't have to be invented from scratch.
I think we can do without the mugs and bling. Just being part of this event is an honor and a lot of fun for me.
I'm glad the event can continue. As for the other guy, well, I hope his operating is better than his arithmetic.
73, Kay N3KN On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 9:31?AM David Wright K2WPM via <dwright= [email protected]> wrote:
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
?
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
?
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).? Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
?
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
?
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
?
Thoughts?
?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
?
Thanks,
?
David, K2WPM
?
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
?
?
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Good Morning David!
Sorry to hear about Ken. ?I hope his health will get better. And let¡¯s hope his successor will be easy to work with and a great replacement (if that is possible!). And thank you again for your commitment of time and resources, organization and leadership for us! ?What a great guy to work for - even if you are a lawyer hahaha! ?(I can say that because my daughter is a lawyer!)?
Here are my thoughts in order of questions presented:
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses? ? Yes - I ?don¡¯?think it is too much to ask to help offset the expense. And I don¡¯t think it is right for you to cover all the costs.
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs. ?I think we operators can cover it.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100). From a pervious suggestion I think offering digital as the first option, and then printed cards as the 2nd would be a good idea. ?Wait until all the orders come in for QSL cards, and then print what you need.
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120). It¡¯s a nice thought, but some sort of digital certificate would also serve the purpose. ?I know I have a bazillion coffee mugs so not sure one more would actually stand out in the crowd. ?BUT I understand totally the recognition and the reminder of that accomplishment. ?A digital certificate could be used as a computer desktop screen saver, then you get to see that recognition all the time!!!!!!
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards. ?You are the boss - you can do whatever you want as far as I am concerned¡..
6.? This also means no more bling. I certainly appreciate the Bling associated with the event, and I am grateful for those who have contributed to making that happen. ?If it means we can cover other expenses that need to take place (QSL Cards, etc.) then I vote for less or no Bling.? ?
Thanks again for the leadership! ?Looking forward to being an Op this year!
Linwood, K2LLC
On 5/1/25 09:31, David Wright K2WPM via
groups.io wrote:
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder
and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He
appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave
it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not
happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening
to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time
and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL
cards, costing about $150, this year.
?
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the
monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited,
actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of
about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of
this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken
donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent
him $25 or $50).
?
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay
for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B
ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest
my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover
costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and
mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for
Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that
Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling
department!).? Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional
extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I
invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
?
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
?
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to
$10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit
donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates --
instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about
$120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL
cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
?
Thoughts?
?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would
like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by
email.
?
Thanks,
?
David, K2WPM
?
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having
a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th
birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
?
?
|
Hi David - this is just my opinion and I can go with the flow. My
general thought is to reduce the overall costs, first. As an
operator, I don't need any more certificates, although I
appreciate the 'thanks'. You can probably just email the
certificate instead of printing and mailing them.
I'm not sure I'm incentivized to be in the top 5 for a mug.
Operating as K2B is a blast/honor and I really enjoy it. Maybe you
could note the "top 5" standing in the digital certificate?
Can we send the QSL cards digitally? I know some people like
paper cards. Maybe there is a way to request a card instead of
automatically sending cards to everybody?
Finally - if you need $10 - $25 to support the effort from me,
just let me know. I'm willing to donate to help defray the
operational costs.
Stu2, W7IY
On 5/1/25 09:31, David Wright K2WPM via
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I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder
and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He
appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave
it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not
happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening
to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time
and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL
cards, costing about $150, this year.
?
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the
monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited,
actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of
about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of
this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken
donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent
him $25 or $50).
?
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay
for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B
ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest
my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover
costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and
mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for
Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that
Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling
department!).? Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional
extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I
invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
?
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
?
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to
$10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit
donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates --
instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about
$120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL
cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
?
Thoughts?
?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would
like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by
email.
?
Thanks,
?
David, K2WPM
?
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having
a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th
birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
?
?
|
I'm certainly willing to contribute to the cause.
We seem to have enough operators that it shouldn't be a financial burden for each of us to do so.
73,? Chuck K4QS
On Thursday, May 1, 2025 at 09:57:11 AM EDT, Carl Dennis NX3A via groups.io <nittany2288@...> wrote:
David,
Please send me your address and I would be happy to contribute $25.00 toward K2B expenses.
73.
NX3A
Carl M. Dennis, PhD
Quicksburg, VA.
I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not happening.?
We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
?
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of this revenue was
used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
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Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover costs,
(b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).? Also
thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
?
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
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1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
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Thoughts?
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Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
?
Thanks,
?
David, K2WPM
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P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
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David,
Please send me your address and I would be happy to contribute $25.00 toward K2B expenses.
73.
NX3A
Carl M. Dennis, PhD
Quicksburg, VA.
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I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not happening.?
We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
?
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of this revenue was
used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
?
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover costs,
(b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).? Also
thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
?
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
?
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
?
Thoughts?
?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
?
Thanks,
?
David, K2WPM
?
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
?
?
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I wanted to let everyone know that Ken, KU2US, the founder and boss of 13 Colonies, has retired due to health issues.? He appointed a successor, Tony N4ATJ.? I had hoped he would leave it to the colony-managers to carry on the show but that's not happening.? We have a Zoom call tomorrow (Friday May 2) evening to discuss the Special Event going forward.?
?
I've been told -- in addition to the huge investment of time and expense I already make -- I am asked to pay for 1,000 QSL cards, costing about $150, this year.
?
In the past, Ken paid for these -- I understand from the monies he netted on certificate fulfillment ($5 solicited, actual cost of certificates and postage $2, leaving a net of about $4,500 a year on 1,500 certificates sent out;? some of this revenue was used to pay for QSLs).? (I also assume Ken donated his own funds to this event, which is why I usually sent him $25 or $50).
?
Two other colony managers told me they get donations to pay for their QSLs.? Any idea who I would solicit?? Should I ask K2B ops for small contributions?? I've always been happy to invest my own funds (a) as annual donation to Ken to help him cover costs, (b) to pay to have full-color certificates printed and mailed to K2B ops, (c) for mugs for top 5 ops, for Ken and for Rhonda our QSL manager, and (d) occasional bling (except that Steve KO4ENU has contributed very generously in the bling department!).? Also thank K2B ops for sending me occasional extra monies (thanks Carol, KG4DTM and others).? But last year I invested over $300 -- starting to sound like real money!
?
May I solicit K2B ops input/consensus opinion:
?
1.? Should we have a rule that all K2B ops contribute $5 to $10 each to defray these expenses?
2.? If not, does anyone know where/how I could solicit donation of a small sum annually to defray costs.
3.? Would you prefer I not send the hard copy certificates -- instead I could do digital ones?? (that saves maybe $100)
4.? Should I not buy mugs for top ops? (that saves about $120)
5.? If I don't have expenses #3 and #4, I can buy the QSL cards.
6.? This also means no more bling.
?
Thoughts?
?
Also, anyone who has not already contacted me, but who would like to participate in K2B this year, please contact me by email.
?
Thanks,
?
David, K2WPM
?
P.S.,? Did you see that the 13 Colonies wannabe guy is having a special event July 1 - 13, 2025 celebrating America's 250th birthday (which isn't until 2026 by my math)?
That will really help to confuse everyone!
?
?
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Re: 2024 Results and post event thoughts; Berryville
Whether or not one gives a hoot about how they add up in a competitive way, the numbers show that we colonials are providing a heck of a lot of our fellow hams with the fun of chasing an award that means something to them.?
The event sure has come a long way from the beginning, when each colony had just 2 operators, who were often unable to cope because they were not sufficiently experienced in this kind of operating. It was so painful to listen to their struggling that I quit chasing the award.?
I enjoy being part of this now and hope to be involved again next year. Special thanks to you, David, for your leadership and coordination work. We¡¯ll keep trying not to make your job too much like herding cats. Or goldfish. 73, Kay N3KN
Here is the report from Ken, KU2US:
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Awesome! We beat last year by 54,923 contacts, and we beat our best year to date which was 2022 by 25,091 contacts. GRAND TOTAL FOR 2024 IS 292,426 total gross contacts. Our Top twenty operator total is 229,289 contacts.?
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Kay N3KN
Linwood Campbell K2LLC
Chuck K4QS