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I am trying to import messages from a Mailman2.1 list archive, but when I set things up with the fromto.txt file and run ioimport.pl, I get:

sharky4.deepsoft.com% perl ioimport.pl
Content-Type: text/plain

first address in fromto.txt must be unmoderated

The e-mail address in question is set to "Override: not moderated".? What is going on?

Lena's script doesn't import the member list so this is where I'm stuck.? would prefer not to upgrade to a premium account to use Direct Add.?

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 12:18 PM, <howardshiau@...> wrote:

Sorry I'm so late to the game but I'm finally getting around to migrating our old Yahoo group.? Is there any way to migrate the member list as well?? Or migrate the messages without having to validate membership?? I'm assuming that if someone deletes their profile, the messages remain so there must be a way.? Main thing is to get the messages over and let people join at their leisure

Do you have a backup / download of the messages and member list? What format?

Frances

yes, i have the messages (mbox) and the member list (csv).? would prefer not to have to upgrade to a premium account to use Direct Add.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 12:18 PM, <howardshiau@...> wrote:

Sorry I'm so late to the game but I'm finally getting around to migrating our old Yahoo group.? Is there any way to migrate the member list as well?

If you owned the Yahoo group, there should be a memberlist.csv file in your export. I don't know if Lena's script will import it, though. The simplest thing to do is to open that file in some kind of spreadsheet program and cut-and-paste the email address column directly into the Direct Add screen.?

Disclaimer: Personally, I have never gotten the Perl script to work. I didn't try very hard, though.

Regards,
Bruce
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On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 12:18 PM, <howardshiau@...> wrote:

Sorry I'm so late to the game but I'm finally getting around to migrating our old Yahoo group.? Is there any way to migrate the member list as well?? Or migrate the messages without having to validate membership?? I'm assuming that if someone deletes their profile, the messages remain so there must be a way.? Main thing is to get the messages over and let people join at their leisure

Do you have a backup / download of the messages and member list? What format?

Frances
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Sorry I'm so late to the game but I'm finally getting around to migrating our old Yahoo group.? Is there any way to migrate the member list as well?? Or migrate the messages without having to validate membership?? I'm assuming that if someone deletes their profile, the messages remain so there must be a way.? Main thing is to get the messages over and let people join at their leisure

Paul . . .

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:49:43 -0700, "Paul Agnew"
<bluejet941@...> wrote:

Has anyone found a workaround for AT&T's blocking Port 25?

I'm attempting to run Lena's script and finally got to the GoAhead point only to find Port 25 is blocked by AT&T Uverse. I only have 635 messages to upload from my YG mbox file.

Could you set up a mail server on a free web hosting site and do it
from there?

Donald


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Has anyone found a workaround for AT&T's blocking Port 25???

I'm attempting to run Lena's script and finally got to the GoAhead point only to find Port 25 is blocked by AT&T Uverse.? I only have 635 messages to upload from my YG mbox file.??

Paul

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 02:26 AM, B. Brooke Mann wrote:

Is there an alternative to using port 25

No, groups.io accepts incoming emails only at port 25.

Hi Lena,

Thank you for sharing your Perl script.

I was able to get through step #12 successfully, running on my Windows PC.? But at step #13, I'm getting the error message that port 25 is blocked by my ISP (Comcast, confirmed that they do block port 25, like most other ISPs in the US).

I also tried running the script from a web server that I have access to -- same result that I can only get through step #12.? (Actually, at step #13, it says "Please wait" but it never gives the error message about port 25 being blocked, and I don't see the automated Help email that's supposed to be sent.)

Is there an alternative to using port 25, if I make some changes in the Perl code?? (I only know very basic Perl, but I could copy-paste if given some direction...)

Thank you for any suggestions!

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 05:05 PM, Ken N wrote:

I nor anyone in our yahoogroup is perl script nor networking savvy, unfortunately. Is there any other tutorial or instruction available other than the instructions that come with the script?

Ken -- No instructions are available other than the messages within this topic and the comments scattered throughout her Perl script.

Lena can be contacted directly via her profile at?/g/GroupManagersForum/profile/@Lena? ?Please respect her right to say "no."

The instructions only refer to pr[o]cedures for Windows. I’m on a Mac high Sierra.

I cannot help you there. Very likely you will need to find someone who isn't, or pony up the $220.

I don’t know the phrase for the download I have. I have an archive that yahoogroups offered members of groups to download. It is a zip file that has folders of every group I was on. Each folder contains mbox files that can be imported into a desktop email app that allows viewing each message in original email format. Is that what you refer to as “yahoo privacy dashboard download?”

Yes, that sure sounds like it (Apple mail should be able to open the mbox files).

Please also note that you had to be a Moderator of a group in order to have the email addresses come through the download without being obfuscated. Such messages may still be upload-able via the script but will not be searchable for who posted them.
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Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Bruce,

Thanks for replies. Requests for further info inline below:

On Sep 16, 2020, at 3:23 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

You do not need to pay anything to use Lena's perl script, but you'll have to be pretty savvy to set it up,

I nor anyone in our yahoogroup is perl script nor networking savvy, unfortunately. Is there any other tutorial or instruction available other than the instructions that come with the script? The instructions only refer to pricedures for Windows. I’m on a Mac high Sierra.

and the above aspects will be lost (the messages are simply reposted under a pseudonym).

I understand the posting issue, but also understood that body of message will still contain original send info to be able to search by.

All this will be lost anyway if we have to resort to manually resending anyway. A task I don’t think we would pursue.

Of course, this all assumes that you already have a Yahoo privacy dashboard download, retrieved prior to early February. If you don't, it's too late to get one now.

I don’t know the phrase for the download I have. I have an archive that yahoogroups offered members of groups to download. It is a zip file that has folders of every group I was on. Each folder contains mbox files that can be imported into a desktop email app that allows viewing each message in original email format. Is that what you refer to as “yahoo privacy dashboard download?”

Hope this helps,
Bruce

Ken

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:05 AM, Ken N wrote:

I just learned that groups io has changed its policy for groups established after August 24.

Ken -- That recent change was about the availability of non-message features for Basic (free) groups. It has no affect on messages.

In short, if you wish to store files or photos, use the calendar, etc, you will need to pay for a Premium group, unless you have a pre-24Aug legacy group lying around somewhere.

See?/static/compare??

Does anyone know whether Lena’s perl script can still be used if I use the 30 day premium trial?

Having groups.io upload your mbox message archive will cost you a full year of Premium ($220). This option retains message "ownership" and date/timestamps.

You do not need to pay anything to use Lena's perl script, but you'll have to be pretty savvy to set it up, and the above aspects will be lost (the messages are simply reposted under a pseudonym). Also, it will take awhile to run, as it has to comply with the "not more than 40 messages in 30 minutes" requirement that applies to all groups.io accounts.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/15860#Uploading-a-message-archive?

Of course, this all assumes that you already have a Yahoo privacy dashboard download, retrieved prior to early February. If you don't, it's too late to get one now.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Sorry this is such a late entry in this thread, but my group has barely decided to try migrating its old content archive somewhere.

I just learned that groups io has changed its policy for groups established after August 24. Does anyone know whether Lena’s perl script can still be used if I use the 30 day premium trial?

I've made a Github repository for this script, to eventually hold other imports. For immediate needs of my group, I'll be generating a Sympa import (specifically to import from groups.queernet.org) and WordPress export/import.

The group is here:

Major h/t to Lena for building this script!

That was exactly the problem.? I was thinking the script, during execution, was checking the status of the user on Groups.io, but realized it is checking the user status as shown in the memberlist.csv file.? I hadn't retrieved a new file, yet.? Once I did that, the problem was resolved.

Thank you.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:15 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:

I've set the new user as unmoderated for both the subgroup

first address in fromto.txt must be unmoderated

Download memberlist.csv again. If again the same error message then email me the line from memberlist.csv with that email address.

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Lena

Lena,

I've created a subgroup.? I've subscribed a new user.? I've set the new user as unmoderated for both the subgroup and the main group.? I've created the "fromto.txt" file, containing the subscribed user email address and the subgroup email address.? I know the perl script is reading that file correctly, because if I use an email address that isn't in the "memberlist.csv" file, it fails with an error:

On 2019.12.13 2257, isis feral via Groups.Io wrote:

Yahoo sure seems to want to make it difficult for people to archive
their groups.

I finally managed to get Mark Fletcher's Chrome application to work, and
downloaded a lot of messages, but that one doesn't include any
attachments. It does appear to get most of the messages though, unlike
the Yahoo data. I downloaded 500 at a time, and it timed out after about
10,000 for a couple of hours, and then let me download the rest. It's a
bunch of text files, which I presume I can use as MBOX files, but I've
not tried yet. The downloads were quite fast, even on my slower DSL
connection. That's at this link again:

Great. I didn't see the messages, or mess with the files, you mentioned in your previous post. I saw the counter run, the application msg present itself. The most difficult bit was remembering to Save the download each time. I kept a text file to record what I did and that helped a lot.

I never managed to log in through PG Offline. I'm reinstalling it to try
one last time if I can make it work. I hope I can use it as a reader,
and get files from others who downloaded some of my groups. I should
have downloaded it months ago. It's a wonderful program, but who
anticipated that Yahoo would implode like this.

I would heartily say, the members would seem to be, at the base of things, the greatest resource. It was key to get beyond any 1000 item limit.

Chrome Application to Download Members
Application to Download Members

I found PGO to work, for me, (trial version) with Files (which I also had from the Y! bundle/download) and to grab photos in batches of 20.

While it worked on one account, with another there were failure notes and a suggestion I might have double authentication turned on with Y! I looked, didn't see this and have to consider energy spent against value of the data.

I also tried this downloader, which claims to download everything like
PGO, but after getting two techies involved I still just get 'API query
failed' for files and photos, but when it got to topics it downloaded a
whole bunch of pornographic spam messages (!), and no legitimate posts
from my groups. Others seem to have had better luck:

I considered that, as it would appear to garner one attachments, however I'd not had enough time to learn about Python it seemed, and had to do what I could. It feels sub-optimal however some folks are grateful.

I suspect I'll be spending my Saturday manually downloading files and
photos and any attachments I can get my hands on.

Thanks for all the help and commiseration on this list!

Isis

Same for me. Good luck to all.

John