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It was working. I got my group transferred 2 weeks ago.? I see now that it is not working again. keep watching; hopefully they will get it fixed soon.? Good luck! John Myers On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:20 PM <board@...> wrote: I read elsewhere that the Yahoo group transfer problem is fixed and transfers are now on again but when I go to the Yahoo Instructions I'm told this is not so. |
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Yahoo Group Easy Transfer will be back online Wednesday, but no longer free.
Mark says: I'm going to make a change in the process however. For new groups If your group is one of the eight, and for some reason you DO NOT want to go ahead with the transfer, contact him before Wednesday. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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This is terrible news for small groups. I have three Yahoo groups of 10-15 members each waiting to convert from Yahoo to Groups.io. That would now cost us $330, making the conversion cost prohibitive. We are faced with abandoning message histories on Yahoo dating back a number of years, or looking for a solution other than Groups.io.
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Bob Sent from my iMac On Feb 11, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: |
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Bob,
We are faced with abandoning message histories on Yahoo dating back aI'm not aware of any other solutions which can copy out the content of your Yahoo Group, so you may be faced with keeping the Yahoo Group open as an archive, as Ilene suggested. One solution that comes to mind is PG Online, the hosted service version of PG Offline. That wouldn't have been free either, in that you have to pay for hosting your online site. That trades the upfront expense with Groups.io for an ongoing expense, so it may or may not be an acceptable option. But I don't find PG Online listed on their site, so maybe that fledgling service never made it off the ground. At the least, PG Offline can give you a local copy of your group's content for safe keeping. For that purpose the free trial version is sufficient. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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It would be nice to know the reasoning behind the change on GroupIO. I
suspect the case is changes at Yahoo make automating the task of copying the group impossible. But with manual effort (ie real person time) it can still be done. So I could understand the change as a way to recoup that working time. Also the logic behind many groups needing other special help for the first while further would justify the expense. A statement of details like that from GroupIO would go far in letting people understand why the change. Given the right details, I think most people would understand and accept it. But without concrete details of the why, that leaves some with minimal justification in their eyes for why. Now I don't have any idea if he would come out and explain the issues and reasons, but it would help sensible people understand. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhy not just export the yahoo grupsstuff to I think it's MBox iles and email them to mark? I did that for a mailman group and everything was seemless, everything but one month, but out of the 15 years, that was not too bad. Take care On 12 Feb 2019, at 8:22, Shal Farley wrote:
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On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:31 AM, Bob wrote:
This is terrible news for small groups. I have three Yahoo groups of 10-15 members each waiting to convert from Yahoo to Groups.io. That would now cost us $330, making the conversion cost prohibitive.I can understand why paying $7-10/subscriber might be prohibitive. We are faced with abandoning message histories on Yahoo dating back a number of years, or looking for a solution other than Groups.io.If you can export your message base using PGOffline, you may be able to print it to a PDF and upload that to the target group's files area. It won't be indexed or anything, but would still be searchable using Acrobat Reader. All depends on how often subscribers read past posts, which in my experience they rarely do. ? I'm not aware of any other service that will transfer your message archive for you. You can of course look for other solutions, but it seems to me that this problem will remain.? Good luck, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Ken,
So I could understand the change as a way to recoup that workingI think this is the correct surmise. The transfer activity already involved at least one manual step (a CAPTCHA to solve). I don't know there were others, or additional time taken by the latest work-around, but Mark has clearly put a lot of time into the transfer capability. I don't begrudge him trying to recoup some of that effort. There's a hint in this direction from the earlier change that required a year's upfront Premium purchase to copy more than 100,000 messages from the Yahoo Group. And I suspect that the transfer feature also is a source of additional support requests generally. Now I don't have any idea if he would come out and explain the issuesNor do I. You could always ask on beta, or through support. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 11:16 AM, vandy.simpson wrote:
I'm assuming my group is NOT one of the 8? The transfer was in progress,I think you should contact [email protected] for this case, including all the details you have.? If you had actually given the go ahead for the transfer to be started, you should be grandfathered in. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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On 2019/02/12 05:22 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
At the least, PG Offline can give you a local copy of your group's content for safe keeping. For that purpose the free trial version is sufficient.That is true, but you can't export from PG Offline to MBOX, and you can only export a limited number of mails to HTML using the trial version. Also, you have to view the mails in PG Offline itself. The program does download the messages fairly quickly, though. Samuel |
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Samuel, That is true, but you can't export from PG Offline to MBOX, ... If mbox is your goal see the Chrome application to , available on YahooGroupedia. It requires some patience and technical skill to use, but is perhaps a useful alternative to your procedure. If your goal is a migration to a Groups.io group keep your fingers crossed that the Easy Group Transfer mechanism is still operational when you decide to go for it. Yes, that now costs money ($110), but it will save you an enormous amount of time and effort. The money also buys you a year of Premium group features. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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On 2019/02/22 06:48 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
If mbox is your goal see the Chrome application to Export Yahoo Group Messages ... available on YahooGroupedia. It requires some patience and technical skill to use, but is perhaps a useful alternative to your procedure </g/GroupManagersForum/message/15059>.I'm aware of this app, thanks. I tried it (long ago), but stopped using it because sometimes the "Save" button doesn't light up after the download is finished (or I exit Chrome by mistake), and then I'd have to re-download all the messages, which meant that it became a bit of an effort to download more than a few hundred at a time. The app's help file says you have to be a moderator or owner of the group whose messages you want to download, but that's not necessary with either method, except that e-mail addresses get munged. If your goal is a migration to a Groups.io group keep your fingers crossed that the Easy Group Transfer </yahootransfer> mechanism is still operational when you decide to go for it.Yes, we don't know how long it will still work. Tis a pity I missed the cut-off. Samuel |
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Brent,
Yahoo does not show the invitation in the yahoo activity log and groupIf you haven't, look at your "Existing Transfers" page for this transfer, found through the drop-list at the bottom of transfer instructions page. That should tell you if Groups.io has received the invitation. /yahootransfer There's often a delay between when they receive it and when they accept it because accepting it requires manual intervention (solving a CAPTCHA test). Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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