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What will you do with your Y! Groups?

Duane All Messages By This Member #2968 On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:50 pm, J_Catlady wrote: I'm glad I'm outta there! This reminded me of a question I've been wondering about.? For those that move to Groups.io, what will you do with your Y! Groups?? When the neo fiasco happened, I immediately looked for a refuge.? After I got set up on io, I asked all members that could/would to delete their Y! accounts, then deleted the groups that came with me.? I figured the fewer groups and members, the less revenue would be generated to support Y!.? They used to tout the huge number of groups and members in their advertising, but I'm not sure if they still do.? Of course, that included all the dormant groups and spam havens.? Probably a bit like jousting with windmills, but... I know some plan to keep the Y! groups in place for awhile, if nothing more than an archive or pointer to io, but will you eventually delete them?? Will you ask your members to delete their Y! accounts if possible? Duane
Rachel All Messages By This Member #2969 开云体育 Our groups are still up because pointers from other places out of our control send folks to the yahoo groups .. more people know about yahoo groups so if they sign up there we can still message them ?and point them to the right place to sign up. Rachel toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Dec 13, 2017, at 3:33 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:50 pm, J_Catlady wrote: I'm glad I'm outta there! This reminded me of a question I've been wondering about.? For those that move to , what will you do with your Y! Groups?? When the neo fiasco happened, I immediately looked for a refuge.? After I got set up on io, I asked all members that could/would to delete their Y! accounts, then deleted the groups that came with me.? I figured the fewer groups and members, the less revenue would be generated to support Y!.? They used to tout the huge number of groups and members in their advertising, but I'm not sure if they still do.? Of course, that included all the dormant groups and spam havens.? Probably a bit like jousting with windmills, but... I know some plan to keep the Y! groups in place for awhile, if nothing more than an archive or pointer to io, but will you eventually delete them?? Will you ask your members to delete their Y! accounts if possible? Duane
Cacky B All Messages By This Member #2970 开云体育 I have moved only two small groups.? In one case, I deleted all the members except myself.? This allowed me to catch emails sent by non-subscribers (which was allowed on that group), alert those specific non-subscribers to the new address and forward those messages to the new group on groups.io.? In the other case, I was able to poll all members and delete the yahoo group once they approved of that step. Cacky On 12/13/2017 2:33 AM, Duane wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:50 pm, J_Catlady wrote: I'm glad I'm outta there! This reminded me of a question I've been wondering about.? For those that move to Groups.io, what will you do with your Y! Groups?? When the neo fiasco happened, I immediately looked for a refuge.? After I got set up on io, I asked all members that could/would to delete their Y! accounts, then deleted the groups that came with me.? I figured the fewer groups and members, the less revenue would be generated to support Y!.? They used to tout the huge number of groups and members in their advertising, but I'm not sure if they still do.? Of course, that included all the dormant groups and spam havens.? Probably a bit like jousting with windmills, but... I know some plan to keep the Y! groups in place for awhile, if nothing more than an archive or pointer to io, but will you eventually delete them?? Will you ask your members to delete their Y! accounts if possible? Duane
Julesy All Messages By This Member #2971 开云体育 When I set up our new group in groups.io, I devised a plan to attrition the Yahoo group and discussed with my co-moderator. Our plan was to eventually make our Yahoo group still open but inactive. I sent an email announcement to our Yahoo group with our plan, giving them sufficient time to set up an account on groups.io and joining our group. We don't plan to close our Yahoo group but just let it sit there, in case we need to go back to refer to old posts. There is nothing there in our Yahoo group that is THAT important to keep. I have our member list downloaded and any files that we have I have maintained myself. I wanted to post the announcement on the Yahoo banner of our home page regarding our move to groups.io, but with the neo have been unable to make any banner or home photo adjustments. Makes me even more grateful of our move to groups.io and wish we had done it much, much earlier. ----- Julesy On 12/13/2017 3:33 AM, Duane wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:50 pm, J_Catlady wrote: I'm glad I'm outta there! This reminded me of a question I've been wondering about.? For those that move to Groups.io, what will you do with your Y! Groups?? When the neo fiasco happened, I immediately looked for a refuge.? After I got set up on io, I asked all members that could/would to delete their Y! accounts, then deleted the groups that came with me.? I figured the fewer groups and members, the less revenue would be generated to support Y!.? They used to tout the huge number of groups and members in their advertising, but I'm not sure if they still do.? Of course, that included all the dormant groups and spam havens.? Probably a bit like jousting with windmills, but... I know some plan to keep the Y! groups in place for awhile, if nothing more than an archive or pointer to io, but will you eventually delete them?? Will you ask your members to delete their Y! accounts if possible? Duane
Drew All Messages By This Member #2972 With several thousand members we wanted to make sure everybody gets the word. So, we will keep our Y! group till the end. Our group homepage there explains that it is now inactive and points people to our new home on Groups.io. All of our Y! group email auto responders also point to the new group: if someone tries to join the Yahoo group they get an email saying it is inactive and pointing them to the new group. The same if someone quits the Y! group-- the goodbye message contains a link to our Groups.io group in case they don't already know about it. Also, we put the Y! group under moderation-- if someone tries to post there we send them a notice about our new home on Groups.io. The Y! group is an archive also. If Yahoo/Verizon/Oath wants to continue it, fine with us. We would like our members to get rid of their Yahoo Mail accounts however. There are a lot of them and the "unsubscribed due to reporting spam" and the email address mangling in message posts are a constant irritation. Drew toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 12/13/17 03:33, Duane wrote: On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:50 pm, J_Catlady wrote: I'm glad I'm outta there! This reminded me of a question I've been wondering about.? For those that move to Groups.io, what will you do with your Y! Groups?? When the neo fiasco happened, I immediately looked for a refuge.? After I got set up on io, I asked all members that could/would to delete their Y! accounts, then deleted the groups that came with me.? I figured the fewer groups and members, the less revenue would be generated to support Y!.? They used to tout the huge number of groups and members in their advertising, but I'm not sure if they still do.? Of course, that included all the dormant groups and spam havens.? Probably a bit like jousting with windmills, but... I know some plan to keep the Y! groups in place for awhile, if nothing more than an archive or pointer to io, but will you eventually delete them?? Will you ask your members to delete their Y! accounts if possible? Duane
Shal Farley Member Profile All Messages By This Member #2973 Duane, I know some plan to keep the Y! groups in place for awhile, if nothing more than an archive or pointer to io, Yup. A "we've moved" sign for anyone that comes across them. but will you eventually delete them?? Will you ask your members to delete their Y! accounts if possible? No and no. In fact I'll try to remember to keep my accounts active so that I can continue to "reject with reply" anyone who happens to post in those groups. Shal
Sarah k Alawami All Messages By This Member #2977 开云体育 I would ask everyone to remove their yahoo email and groups. I mean once all the archives and stuff are transferred?over. I did this with one of the groups I ran. I removed every trace of it off the other place, gave people a month to switch over, if they did not, they lost their chance. Of corse they could always resubscribe the normal way once they come across the group either through the invite I sent or through word of mouth.. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Dec 13, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Duane, I know some plan to keep the Y! groups in place for awhile, if nothing more than an archive or pointer to io, Yup. A "we've moved" sign for anyone that comes across them. but will you eventually delete them?? Will you ask your members to delete their Y! accounts if possible? No and no. In fact I'll try to remember to keep my accounts active so that I can continue to "reject with reply" anyone who happens to post in those groups. Shal
Douglas Swearingen All Messages By This Member #2978 I migrated my group from Yahoo to Groups.io a little over a year ago. ? The Yahoo group still sits there, but any new subscribers are referred to groups.io.? At some point it will be closed but for now to appease the group members it remains open.? There are no new members allowed there or new postings. ? We have found groups.io much easier to use, as well as more user friendly.? As far as user support, Mark does an excellent job.? I would never want to return to Yahoo Groups. ? Best Regards, Doug On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:59 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote: I would ask everyone to remove their yahoo email and groups. I mean once all the archives and stuff are transferred?over. I did this with one of the groups I ran. I removed every trace of it off the other place, gave people a month to switch over, if they did not, they lost their chance. Of corse they could always resubscribe the normal way once they come across the group either through the invite I sent or through word of mouth.. toggle quoted message Show quoted text [Excess quote trimmed by moderator] ?
Shal Farley Member Profile All Messages By This Member #2981 Sarah, I would ask everyone to remove their yahoo email and groups. I mean once all the archives and stuff are transferred?over. Why? I see no point to doing that. I don't buy the idea that it somehow deprives Verizon/Oath of income, and even if I did I have no interest in doing so - that would mostly punish other users who for whatever reason still use that platform. Whereas I do see value in having the old groups stand as "we've moved" signs. I've left all the content and membership in place, but have turned off members' ability to post new web content, and moderated all messages so that I can re-direct the sender to the new groups here. Shal
Arno Martens #2982 Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:07:40 -0800, "Shal Farley" <shals2nd@...>, wrote: Sarah, I would ask everyone to remove their yahoo email and groups. I mean once all the archives and stuff are transferred over. Why? Maybe she is upset seeing these addresses: "Douglas Swearingen via Groups.Io" <dougiebehr460@...> I see no point to doing that. I don't buy the idea that it somehow deprives Verizon/Oath of income, and even if I did I have no interest in doing so - that would mostly punish other users who for whatever reason still use that platform. Whereas I do see value in having the old groups stand as "we've moved" signs. I've left all the content and membership in place, but have turned off members' ability to post new web content, and moderated all messages so that I can re-direct the sender to the new groups here. Shal Fully agree with all you said. I do have an exception and that is a private list for my wife where US, UK, AUS and CDN users are only put on be me, upon invitation, and I have mete them all in person over the years. Attrition makes the list smaller every year and there is no need to keep the old one. Arno
PARC/W7LT moderator All Messages By This Member #2984 We will post a notice that the groups have been moved and set all posts to be moderated, along with shutting down posting of new files, photos, etc. If anyone show up they will get a message that the groups have moved. We are constrained a bit because the original, and sole, owner of the group, lost his login credentials, which are associated with a non-yahoo address and yahoo won't let him recover them. We can't delete the group even if we wish to do so. bill
Shal Farley Member Profile All Messages By This Member #2985 Arno, Maybe she is upset seeing these addresses: "Douglas Swearingen via Groups.Io" <dougiebehr460=yahoo.com@groups.io> Heh, there is that. But if changing to another provider beware: Yahoo isn't the only one that requires mangling. AOL does and I think Hotmail too. Shal
Cacky B All Messages By This Member #2986 开云体育 I agree.? There are valid reasons for leaving a skeleton. Cacky On 12/13/2017 5:07 PM, Shal Farley wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text Sarah, I would ask everyone to remove their yahoo email and groups. I mean once all the archives and stuff are transferred?over. Why? I see no point to doing that. I don't buy the idea that it somehow deprives Verizon/Oath of income, and even if I did I have no interest in doing so - that would mostly punish other users who for whatever reason still use that platform. Whereas I do see value in having the old groups stand as "we've moved" signs. I've left all the content and membership in place, but have turned off members' ability to post new web content, and moderated all messages so that I can re-direct the sender to the new groups here. Shal
Sarah k Alawami All Messages By This Member #2990 I don't believe in dupes. One place for the group and that's it. I'm very very organized that way. I did that for another group. Give them a month to move and if they did not they didn't and have to either contact me or except the invite I gave them during the transfer. If they did not they will be left behind Since I see them on other social platforms they come back to the group if they so choose, Iv'e kept most of these three hundred members over the corse of I think 13 years now and over 5 moves of said group. Take care toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Dec 13, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Arno Martens <snetram@...> wrote: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:07:40 -0800, "Shal Farley" <shals2nd@...>, wrote: Sarah, I would ask everyone to remove their yahoo email and groups. I mean once all the archives and stuff are transferred over. Why? Maybe she is upset seeing these addresses: "Douglas Swearingen via Groups.Io" <dougiebehr460@...> I see no point to doing that. I don't buy the idea that it somehow deprives Verizon/Oath of income, and even if I did I have no interest in doing so - that would mostly punish other users who for whatever reason still use that platform. Whereas I do see value in having the old groups stand as "we've moved" signs. I've left all the content and membership in place, but have turned off members' ability to post new web content, and moderated all messages so that I can re-direct the sender to the new groups here. Shal Fully agree with all you said. I do have an exception and that is a private list for my wife where US, UK, AUS and CDN users are only put on be me, upon invitation, and I have mete them all in person over the years. Attrition makes the list smaller every year and there is no need to keep the old one. Arno
Nightowl >8# All Messages By This Member #2991 Hey all, I know I've been absent, but I saw this topic and decided to weigh in. I have not deleted, but closed all of my Y-Groups to posting except Mods and Members. I created an alternate place on groups.io for M & M people to come, but John has always felt that itwould not be appropriate to bring over (i.e. transfer), the entire Yahoo Crusade group to Mark's site. So I have never done that. John felt it would be like putting a group on Mark's site that would be competing with Mark because the main purpose of the group was to get Yahoo to restore Classic Groups. I no longer believe that can ever happen. But the members asked me to leave it open, and so it remains open, with archives available, and people like yourself, Shal, who help to answer questions that are far out of my league. And I really appreciate that. Any other Y-groups I'm involved in, I am simply a member in, and occasionally, like in our old BBS one, people will post. One person just did that this week. I have simply become too overwhelmed with real life (my elderly parents and more), that I have had to stop trying to stay on top of Beta, and I very marginally stay on top some reading in here. I don't see a reason people should delete their groups either. I did bring the entire archives of MM over here, because it had a ton of information I didn't want to just disappear, but as I said, I have never transferred the 600 member database here. Besides, for quite awhile, Yahoo wouldn't even let you delete a group, or even leave one. As for deleting my Yahoo mail accounts, I wouldn't even consider it, as we pay for AT&T Internet, and that is the same as Yahoo. I keep hoping though, that maybe AT&T will decide that it wants to run a server independent of Yahoo. Anyway, that's my opinion on it all. Brenda Nightowl >8#
David P. Dillard #2992 Back in 2004 I had my first group suddenly disappear from Yahoo permanently. My theme song since then is to back it up. If that ever happens one has simply lost their entire content forever, unless one wishes and can reconstruct the content from their email in a new group and that is a huge undertaking. All enjoy the coming holiday season. Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 jwne@... toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Wed, 13 Dec 2017, Sarah k Alawami wrote: I don't believe in dupes. One place for the group and that's it. I'm very very organized that way. I did that for another group. Give them a month to move and if they did not they didn't and have to either contact me or except the invite I gave them during the transfer. If they did not they will be left behind Since I see them on other social platforms they come back to the group if they so choose, Iv'e kept most of these three hundred members over the corse of I think 13 years now and over 5 moves of said group. Take care [Excess quote trimmed by moderator]
Shal Farley Member Profile All Messages By This Member #3007 bill, We are constrained a bit because the original, and sole, owner of the group, lost his login credentials, which are associated with a non-yahoo address and yahoo won't let him recover them. If he can still receive messages at that non-Yahoo address then he can transfer his ownership to a new Yahoo account, recovering his ability to control the group. Contact us in GMF's sister group on Yahoo if you want to follow up on how to do that. Shal

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