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Two messages for the price of one?


Brian Vogel
 

I got the following this morning from a group member on the NVDA group:

Every time I send a reply to this list, 2 msgs are generated. I'd
troubleshoot this, but my husband was recently hospitalized w/a heart
attack & pneumonia, 2 hours after which we had a house fire, & I'm so
far behind on my website work that either everyone else has crossed
the finish line or I have a substantial lead, rather suspecting the
latter is not the case. The long & the short is, I just don't have the
time to investigate it right now, & I would appreciate some help, if
possible. Thanks in advance.
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Other than BCCing oneself when doing a private reply, I can't find any setting that would cause this to happen for a normal reply via e-mail.? Any ideas?
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Brian

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On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 05:22 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I got the following this morning from a group member on the NVDA group:
Can you confirm if your member is posting by email or by web form? Your final comment suggests "email" but this cannot be determined with certainty from your member's comments.

Is she a member of any other group hosted by Groups.io? If so is the problem definitely limited to "your" group?

Chris


Brian Vogel
 

I have asked the user these questions.? ?I am virtually certain she's using the e-mail interface, as this is a blind technology group and it's very, very rare for members on those (besides myself - and I am sighted) to use the web interface.

I will post again when I get definitive answers.
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Brian Vogel
 

Well, the member interacts via e-mail exclusively and is a member of another groups.io group, but as a lurker.? ?Those two things being said, she was still trying to do her own diagnosis and appears to have figured out what was happening.? ?Here is what she said, with e-mail address partially redacted:

So what I'm seeing, as I look?at it, is 1 post has my actual email address, ie,?BlahBlah@...,?the other says BlahBlah=[email protected].

I just looked a bit more, &, though I did not check the option to?receive my own posts, it appears to be on by default. I've unchecked?it & it appears gmail does rewrite the from: line when it sends posts?back, so this may be what's occurring.?

I know I saw Mark talking about address rewriting recently on the beta group, and I don't know whether there may be an unintended result occurring here or not.

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Brian


 

Brian,

So what I'm seeing, as I look at it, is 1 post has my actual email
address, ie, BlahBlah@... ...
Ah yes, Gmail.

If she looks a bit closer I think she'll find that the copy of the message which has her real address is the copy she sent. That is, it did not go to Groups.io and back, and does not have the group's footer on it.

Conversely, the one which has a re-written address is the copy that came back from Groups.io. It will have the group tag in the subject and the group footer at the bottom. And may have been edited by a group moderator if she's moderated in that group.

I just looked a bit more, &, though I did not check the option to
receive my own posts, it appears to be on by default.
It is.

The effect of it is to rewrite the Message-ID field of the message sent back. This causes Gmail to think that it is a separate message from the one that was sent, with the result that it is shown in her Inbox conversation rather than hidden away in her Sent folder.

The re-writing of her From address is a separate feature, and happens regardless of any settings. Without that, Gmail warns that the message may be spoofed.
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Shal


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