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solution to problem of deleting a topic and also locking it


J_Catlady
 

For anyone interested, I found a way to both delete a thread/topic and also lock it. Normally, if you delete a thread, or any message contained in it, prior locking will fail if someone still responds to the corresponding email message, since groups.io can't connect the email to the non-existent thread or message and know that it's supposed to be locked. And of course, you can't lock a deleted thread since it is no longer there.?So here's what you can do:

1. delete the topic
2. start a new topic with the *exact same title* as the deleted thread, and write "this thread has been deleted" (or words to that effect) in the message body.
3. lock the new topic

I tested this out on the theory that since groups.io now does threading by title matching, a new thread with the same title would make groups.io think it was the same as the old one, and it worked. Any replies to emails from the old (deleted) thread will still bounce, with reason "this topic has been locked by the moderators and can no longer be posted to."

FWIW.

J


 

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Thanks J,

That is good to know.

OK,
Tony



On 10 Oct 2017 at 10:36, J_Catlady wrote about :
Subject : [GMF] solution to problem of deleti

For anyone interested, I found a way to both delete a thread/topic and also lock it. Normally, if you delete a thread, or any message contained in it, prior locking will fail if someone still responds to the corresponding email message, since groups.io can't connect the email to the non-existent thread or message and know that it's supposed to be locked. And of course, you can't lock a deleted thread since it is no longer there. So here's what you can do:

1. delete the topic
2. start a new topic with the *exact same title* as the deleted thread, and write "this thread has been deleted" (or words to that effect) in the message body.
3. lock the new topic

I tested this out on the theory that since groups.io now does threading by title matching, a new thread with the same title would make groups.io think it was the same as the old one, and it worked. Any replies to emails from the old (deleted) thread will still bounce, with reason "this topic has been locked by the moderators and can no longer be posted to."

FWIW.

J

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This may only work for some limited time. I'm not sure what that time frame may be. We often get posts with the exact same title a week or two apart and they (correctly) start a new thread. You might try responding to the email from your deleted thread after several days to see if it still rejects the message. This could happen since a new topic/post will have a different ID than the original.

Duane


J_Catlady
 

That's correct. The title matching is only set up to work for about a week (I, too, have forgotten the exact time frame). But my intention was to stop immediate responses to a thread this morning which I'd deleted. (Necessity is the mother of invention. :)

J

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
This may only work for some limited time.? I'm not sure what that time frame may be.? We often get posts with the exact same title a week or two apart and they (correctly) start a new thread.? You might try responding to the email from your deleted thread after several days to see if it still rejects the message.? This could happen since a new topic/post will have a different ID than the original.

Duane





 

What about just deleting all the messages in the thread, except for one with your reason, then locking it? Seems like that should work indefinitely.

Duane


J_Catlady
 

That would work, too.

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On Oct 10, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

What about just deleting all the messages in the thread, except for one with your reason, then locking it? Seems like that should work indefinitely.

Duane



J_Catlady
 

Oops. No, it wouldn¡¯t work. Once you delete a message, people can still reply to it via email and get around the locking. That¡¯s the whole point.

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On Oct 10, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

What about just deleting all the messages in the thread, except for one with your reason, then locking it? Seems like that should work indefinitely.

Duane



J_Catlady
 

The only way to both lock a thread and delete its content (or delete any message within it) is what I described in an earlier thread: you have to redact all the content of every message in the thread (or every message you want to delete). Then you can put whatever text you want into the last message.

The reason I didn't do it that way today was (a) it would have been a PITA (very long thread) and (b) more honestly, I forgot lol. So then I needed a workaround. Since the workaround so easy and turned out to be so successful (even though it lasts only about a week, which was all I needed), I wanted to let people here know about it.
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