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Hi,
Sorry for the subject, couldn't think of anything better. If anyone
can edit it... :)
Now here's the question:
Is there any way of associating another email, apart from our first
one, to the same account?
The reason I'm asking it is that I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can
see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can just stop working and
I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where I'm a
mod/owner.
If it's not possible yet, could it be a feature to be requested? Do
you see any value on it?
As always, thanks for any and all help.
Cheers,
AKA Starboy
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I don't know about what you are asking, but about 9 years ago someone got into my yahoo mail account and I switched to using gmail after that.? As for the yahoo groups that I had at the time it was no problem to change my e-mail address in the groups. Barbara Jean
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 1:23 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Sorry for the subject, couldn't think of anything better. If anyone
can edit it... :)
Now here's the question:
Is there any way of associating another email, apart from our first
one, to the same account?
The reason I'm asking it is that I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can
see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can just stop working and
I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where I'm a
mod/owner.
If it's not possible yet, could it be a feature to be requested? Do
you see any value on it?
As always, thanks for any and all help.
Cheers,
AKA Starboy
Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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Barbara,
As for the yahoo groups that I had at the
time it was no problem to change my e-mail address in the
groups.
The question is: if you wasn't using the old email anymore how
could you change it without any confirmation or something like
that?
I'd like to have these steps in case I ever need them.
Please? :)
Cheers,
AKA Starboy
Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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Do you still know the username and password of the old e-mail address?? That should be all you need to reactivate it. Barbara Jean
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 3:11 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21= [email protected]> wrote:
Barbara,
As for the yahoo groups that I had at the
time it was no problem to change my e-mail address in the
groups.
The question is: if you wasn't using the old email anymore how
could you change it without any confirmation or something like
that?
I'd like to have these steps in case I ever need them.
Please? :)
Cheers,
AKA Starboy
Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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Barbara,
Do you still know the username and
password of the old e-mail address?
Hmmm, I don't think I have.
Actually, I don't remember ever setting up any username, all I did
was to create my account with my email. Is it my username then?
And, even in the event of Yahoo stop working, will it be enough to
just put this email and I'll be logged in?
Thanks for your help, and sorry for too many questions!
Cheers,
AKA Starboy
Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 04:23 PM, Marcio wrote:
Is there any way of associating another email, apart from our first one, to the same account?
No. In groups.io, your email address is your account identifier. You can create a second address (specifically, an alias) from which you can? send messages. To do that, go to? /account?and click open the section labeled "Advanced Settings for Email Aliases." But even if you do that, all group messages will still be? received at your primary address.?
If it's not possible yet, could it be a feature to be requested? Do you see any value on it?
It's certainly been requested before. It would require an "account identifier" that is distinct and separate from any email address(es) associated with that account, and perhaps the currently inactive username field could serve that purpose. My personal opinion is that the existing account and subscription settings seem to cause enough confusion without introducing another level of abstraction. Hope this helps, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 06:11 PM, Marcio wrote:
The question is: if you wasn't using the old email anymore how could you change it without any confirmation or something like that?
I'd like to have these steps in case I ever need them.
Marcio -- Instructions on how to do this can be found in the system help at? /static/help#changeemail. To complete the process, you do have to confirm the new email address, but nothing is sent to the old one. Hope this helps, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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Bruce,
perhaps the currently inactive username
field could serve that purpose.
I completely agree. I don't know since when this "feature" exists
and isn't being used, so this could be a good oportunity since the
other use which would be something like mentioning someone on
Twitter seems not to have gained much love in a general sense.
My personal opinion is that the existing
account and subscription settings seem to cause enough confusion
without introducing another level of abstraction.
Hmmm, I don't think it would add to the confusion. A username is a
username, probably everyone understands it as it is. But for now I
won't post about it on Beta. My only one suggestion so far hasn't
gotten any response so I need to think if I really want to spend
time for nothing again. LOL
Instructions on how to do this can be
found in the system help
at?/static/help#changeemail. To complete the
process, you do have to confirm the new email address, but
nothing is sent to the old one.
Confused. Here's what it reads:
On the edit profile page, you can change
your email address. Once you do so, you will receive a new
confirmation email. Once you reply to that, you will be all set.
Now the question is: How in the earth will I be able to reply
through an email if said email isn't working? :(
Thanks for your time answering my questions! The help I always get
here is indeed much appreciated.
Cheers,
AKA Starboy
Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:23 PM, Marcio wrote:
I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can
just stop working and I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where
I'm a mod/owner.
Subscribe another address and make it an owner or moderator. A group can have more than one owner.
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Lena,
Subscribe another address and make it an owner or moderator.
Sounds good to me. Thanks for the tip :)
As a last resort, if indeed I need to confirm through my old email
before changing it, I'll consider creating another email and
making it an owner. Bruce said that it won't ask me to confirm
anything through my old email but then there's the note on the
Help webpage.
Either way, thanks, I'm saving it as well as other messages sent
on this thread so far :)
Cheers,
AKA Starboy
Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 22:26:54 -0700, "Lena" <Lena@...> wrote:
Subscribe another address and make it an owner or moderator. A group can have more than one owner.
This is always a good idea for any group owner, and probably for moderators as well. Donald ---------------------------------------------------- Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion group on Groups.io: /g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly) **also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health: /g/CatVet (just launched)
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Marcio . . . On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 21:18:36 -0300, "Marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21@...> wrote: Actually, I don't remember ever setting up any username, all I did was to create my account with my email. Is it my username then?
And, even in the event of Yahoo stop working, will it be enough to just put this email and I'll be logged in? I'm not sure how to do this but if you joined by email only, you really should set things up with a password so you can log into the site and your groups in case your email stops working. From there you should be able to change anything, and you also will have access to group files, pictures, etc. I set up an account here first before creating or joining any groups, so I am not familiar with an email-only experience (though I generally only use email to receive and send posts/replies). Donald ---------------------------------------------------- Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion group on Groups.io: /g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly) **also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health: /g/CatVet (just launched)
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Donald,
I set up an account here first before creating or joining any groups, so I am not familiar with an email-only experience
My question is still the same :)
What exactly you've set up for your account? As I said, I've only
set up an email, it never asked mefor anything else apart from an
email and a password.
That's why I also asked if, even if Yahoo stops working, it will
be enough to just type in my email and password and it will? be
treated as a group.io account, which would have nothing to do with
my email itself.
Cheers,
AKA Starboy
Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 01:35 AM, Marcio wrote:
Confused. Here's what it reads:
On the edit profile page, you can change your email address. Once you do so, you will receive a new confirmation email. Once you reply to that, you will be all set.
Now the question is: How in the earth will I be able to reply through an email if said email isn't working? :(
Marcio -- Let me try to explain this step by step. 1) First, you need to somehow get logged in under the old email address. If you visit the site frequently enough, your existing login should remain active. Alternatively, you could still achieve a login by entering your old email address and a previously-established password.? If you are not already logged in and you haven't established a password, then you will indeed be stuck. That's why I recommend that everyone set up a password, even if they usually use the "email me a link" approach to log in. Go do it. Now. 2) Assuming that you have somehow achieved a login, go to the Account page that I previously mentioned ( /account).? 3) At the top of that page you will find a box labelled "Email." Type your new email address into this box, overwriting the one currently there. 4) Click the "Change Email" button. I believe a dialog box will pop up, confirming that you want to do this. 5) A confirmation email will be sent to your NEW email address. I can only assume that you somehow have access to this address, otherwise you wouldn't have typed it into the box in step 3.? 6) Respond to that email and the change will be completed. I would include screenshots, but that would require me to make a change to my own account, and I don't want to do that. So I hope this is adequate. Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 07:30 AM, Marcio wrote:
What exactly you've set up for your account? As I said, I've only set up an email, it never asked mefor anything else apart from an email and a password.
You can go to groups.io and when you try to sign in with your email account, it will ask for a password. Choose the selection that indicates you don't have a password. It will send an email to your current email address inviting you to set up a password. Follow that link. Then if yahoo quits on you, you can go in through the groups.io home page, sign in with the yahoo email address and your password. Then you can get into your account and change the email address. It will send a confirmation to your new email. ~Sandy
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The reason I'm asking it is that I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can just stop working and I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where I'm a mod/owner.
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Make sure you've set a password on your Groups.io account page. While you still can.
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With a password you'll still be able to log into your Groups.io account using the old email address and that password to log in, even after the old address has been shut down by Yahoo (or whichever service you were using).
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Then, if and when you find that you need to change your email address (someday has come and it just stopped working) use the steps Bruce gave you. In that scenario, after logging in to Groups.io with the old address your? first order of business should be to replace the old address with a new working email address. Presto you're good to go. ?
Note:
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If you use Groups.io's web interface on a regular basis it isn't a disaster if you haven't set a password - your login is remembered in a browser cookie and you won't get logged out just because your email address went bad. If that happens to you unexpectedly, DON'T PANIC. Go to your Groups.io account page and change to a working email address as soon practical.
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Well, maybe do panic about all of the other consequences of losing your email address. But at least your Groups.io account won't be another casualty. Unless maybe you have your browser or security software set up to discard cookies at the drop of a hat.
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There is nothing wrong with having more than one e-mail address.? Let's face it many people have both a personal and work e-mail address.? Since I am transgender I had for many years both an e-mail address for my male name and my current name.? When I had the problem of someone hacking my yahoo e-mail address I opened a gmail account and to this day both are active but I just don't do anything on the yahoo address except to clear out things to keep the box from being cluttered. Having the two addresses is handy also in the event that I want to send something to myself from one computer to another computer that I have at another location. Barbara Jean
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:14 AM Shal Farley < shals2nd@...> wrote:
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The reason I'm asking it is that I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can just stop working and I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where I'm a mod/owner.
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Make sure you've set a password on your Groups.io account page. While you still can.
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With a password you'll still be able to log into your Groups.io account using the old email address and that password to log in, even after the old address has been shut down by Yahoo (or whichever service you were using).
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Then, if and when you find that you need to change your email address (someday has come and it just stopped working) use the steps Bruce gave you. In that scenario, after logging in to Groups.io with the old address your? first order of business should be to replace the old address with a new working email address. Presto you're good to go. ?
Note:
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If you use Groups.io's web interface on a regular basis it isn't a disaster if you haven't set a password - your login is remembered in a browser cookie and you won't get logged out just because your email address went bad. If that happens to you unexpectedly, DON'T PANIC. Go to your Groups.io account page and change to a working email address as soon practical.
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Well, maybe do panic about all of the other consequences of losing your email address. But at least your Groups.io account won't be another casualty. Unless maybe you have your browser or security software set up to discard cookies at the drop of a hat.
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There is nothing wrong with having more than one e-mail address.?
I certainly did not mean to imply that there is. I have several myself.
I was focused on Marcio's original question about what to do if he one day woke up to find that the email address which he uses for his Groups.io account had been disabled.
There is also nothing wrong with having multiple Groups.io accounts, as I do. Primarily for the reason Lena and Donald hinted at - it can provide a backup in case you lose access to your primary one. But that backup is limited: since those are separate accounts they do not own the same content.
It has been mentioned many times in GMF that it is good practice for a group to have more than one owner, just in case. I endorse that idea, and usually create a second owner under a second email address of my own shortly after creating a new group. Even better is to have additional owners who are not oneself, if you can identify trustwothy individuals for that role.
Shal
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Shal, I agree with the idea of having more than one owner.? In one of my yahoo groups the actual owner is past away, so there are only moderators. In the other group we about had that same happen, but someone who was close to the person who owned the group was able to recover her password and then turn the group over to me as she really did not have time or desire to actually work the group. Barbara Jean
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:17 AM Shal Farley < shals2nd@...> wrote:
There is nothing wrong with having more than one e-mail address.?
I certainly did not mean to imply that there is. I have several myself.
I was focused on Marcio's original question about what to do if he one day woke up to find that the email address which he uses for his Groups.io account had been disabled.
There is also nothing wrong with having multiple Groups.io accounts, as I do. Primarily for the reason Lena and Donald hinted at - it can provide a backup in case you lose access to your primary one. But that backup is limited: since those are separate accounts they do not own the same content.
It has been mentioned many times in GMF that it is good practice for a group to have more than one owner, just in case. I endorse that idea, and usually create a second owner under a second email address of my own shortly after creating a new group. Even better is to have additional owners who are not oneself, if you can identify trustwothy individuals for that role.
Shal
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Shal, Bruce, Sandy and everyone else on this thread,
Thanks for joining me on this adventure
and for answering many, many questions. Now, this is the end, I
guess :)
Below are a few last words.
Bruce, thanks for the step by step and sorry, I completely
misinterpreted you.
I was confused because you said:
To complete the process, you do have to
confirm the new email address, but nothing is sent to the old
one.
I kind of ignored the "new email address" part, probably because
that was late night here and such.? Or maybe just because
sometimes I'm a bit slow :)
Sandy,
You can go to groups.io and when you try
to sign in with your email account, it will ask for a password.
Choose the selection that indicates you don't have a password.
It will send an email to your current email address inviting you
to set up a password. Follow that link. Then if yahoo quits on
you, you can go in through the groups.io home page, sign in with
the yahoo email address and your password. Then you can get into
your account and change the email address. It will send a
confirmation to your new email.
Thanks for the instructions. I've already done this, quite a while
ago by the way. I was just wondering whether groups.io and my
email by itself were different things, it was what wasn't clear :)
Shal,
With a password you'll still be able to
log into your Groups.io account using the old email address and
that password to log in, even after the old address has been
shut down by Yahoo (or whichever service you were using).
Thanks. It was everything I wanted to know in the first place, and
maybe it has been said a few times in different ways but as I've
said, sometimes I'm a bit slow. LOL
And with that, guys, I think we've finished this saga. If you're
still reading it, well, a million thanks for the patience and for
all answers offered.
Quoting the Porky Pig, "That's all, folks!"
Cheers,
AKA Starboy
Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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Bruce Bowman
Lena
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Shal Farley