Photo Ownership
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Recently I transferred a list with 8,000 photos.? Fortunately I had chosen an intermediate image size and all the photos transferred due to being re-sized and storage is below the 1GB limit.
However a large number are orphaned, photo ownership was transferred to the groups.io list owner because the original poster of the photos was no longer in the members directory.? Evidently over the 19 years of the list many members had changed their e-mail accounts and YG had not transferred photo ownership. At this time I can't see how to transfer the ownership of posted photos to the correct member.? I can just delete these albums of several hundred photos and have the photo owner repost all of them. Seems like the moderator should be able to just change ownership and avoid reposting a lot of images. -- ken clark "It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success."? Steinbeck - Cannery Row |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI had the same situation with ownership, even with some current active members that came over in the transfer. I have notified our members several times about this ownership problem, but to date only one member has come forward to fix this. Since the member was not even listed as the owner of their own album, they couldn¡¯t do anything with this album except view it. What I did was download all their pictures to my computer (Fortunately they only had eleven pictures), and attached the pictures to email I sent to the member. I only attached three pictures per email. After I did that I deleted the album and pictures, then the member made a new album and uploaded their pictures into it. Now the member has ownership of the album and pictures, and all is well again with this one member. Another way which I¡¯ll try the next time is have the member open the pictures for viewing, then have them right click on the picture to bring up the Save Image As or Copy Image option on their computer. After they get all the pictures they want, I¡¯ll delete the album and pictures. Then, they can make a new album to upload their pictures into. ? Don ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of SP4149 ? Recently I transferred a list with 8,000 photos.? Fortunately I had chosen an intermediate image size and all the photos transferred due to being re-sized and storage is below the 1GB limit. "It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success."? Steinbeck - Cannery Row |
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Ken -
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I understand your problems. Something quite similar was requested on beta a couple years ago. It is certainly needed in some groups, along with the ability to move and possibly resample or crop images. At that time there were much more pressing issues at hand that needed more immediate attention. See my comment at: 2016-01-22 Along with this I would like to be able to resample, crop, or possibly enhance some images and still have the original poster retain ownership on them. Another comment here: 2017-07-28 I think when a member leaves the group it makes sense for the ownership to be assigned to the group owner. However when the original poster is still a member it makes much more sense for the group owner to be able to reassign the files to the original poster. I recognize some of the risks in this, and like a few other similar ownership privileges, perhaps this should be reserved for owners of Premium groups? Dano ----- Original Message -----
Recently I transferred a list with 8,000 photos. Fortunately I had chosen an intermediate image size and all the photos transferred due to being re-sized and storage is below the 1GB limit. However a large number are orphaned, photo ownership was transferred to the groups.io list owner because the original poster of the photos was no longer in the members directory. Evidently over the 19 years of the list many members had changed their e-mail accounts and YG had not transferred photo ownership. At this time I can't see how to transfer the ownership of posted photos to the correct member. I can just delete these albums of several hundred photos and have the photo owner repost all of them. Seems like the moderator should be able to just change ownership and avoid reposting a lot of images. -- ken clark |
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ken,
At this time I can't see how to transfer the ownership of postedDano's mention of risks in this is may be understated. A general ability to re-assign ownership of member contributions could easily lead to all sorts of abuse, and probably also bad consequences from even innocent intentions. Starting with the TOS' requirement that the uploading member have the right to upload the material. If you can no longer tell who uploaded it... Ok, there is an obvious mitigation for that -- the fact that Mark would very likely include such changes in the group's Activity Log. Another mitigation, visible to members, could be an "Edited" badge next to the "By" - similar to the Edited badge used when message content is edited. Instead of a revision list, this badge could simply have a hover text showing the original "By" attribution. To further limit the possibility for abuse there could also be the requirement that the original "By" attribution be (tied to) an email address which is not confirmed in Groups.io's account records. That would limit it to cases like these items that belonged to former members of the Yahoo Group, or current members who had content tied to a dead email address. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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If I understand correctly, this same problem pre-existed in the Yahoo group...the transfer simply brought it to light. In that sense, it's no different from people who landed on "no email" delivery only to later start bouncing, complaining, etc....
Depending on how you look at it, it's an annoying inconvenience, or an opportunity to perform housecleaning that perhaps should have been done a long time ago. Either way, it doesn't strike me as a serious shortcoming of the existing GIO platform. Bruce? |
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