Non Member Posting To Group
开云体育I recently noticed that a non-member attempted to send a message via email to my private group, and they were successful because three of our members responded to the message. As the owner and moderator I did not receive the post from this person, or the three replies by our members that responded. I only discovered this issue when I was checking the Activity of the group. What happened here? ? Don |
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Don,
Did the post or the responses show up in the group's Messages page?
? What activity was shown? That is, was the original post shown as "Non-member ... attempted to send message ... via email"? Or something else? Same question for the member replies. The only ways I can think of for the non-member message to reach the members via the group would be if your group allows non-subscriber posts, and you or another mod approved the post, or your group has an email integration and the non-member used that to post. But either of those would result in the post being in the group's Messages page, and distributed to all members including you (assuming you receive messages from the group). I guess another possibility is that the "non-member" spoofed a member's email address and posted as that member. But same answer: it would be in the group's pages and would have been sent to you. So the other option is that the non-member cc'd the message to (at least) those three members off-list, and they responded off-list. But then I can't imagine how you'd see the replies in the activity log. The remaining possibility, if those three members are also moderators, is that the non-member post was sent to the group's +owner address, and your co-moderators replied. But that still doesn't explain how the replies ended up in the activity log. So, I'm thinking there's more to this event than you've discovered/reported. Are you sure you didn't receive these messages, perhaps in your Spam folder? I would search the All Activity tab of the group's Activity log for that non-subscriber email address, with all actions and any date included. This may turn up additional clues. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 06:04 PM, <dgrass1@...> wrote:
I recently noticed that a non-member attempted to send a message via email to my private group, and they were successful because three of our members responded to the message. As the owner and moderator I did not receive the post from this person, or the three replies by our members that responded. I only discovered this issue when I was checking the Activity of the group. What happened here?Don -- I'm curious...how do you know that three of your subscribers responded if you didn't get any of the messages? What are you seeing in the online message archive? If a non-subscriber sent a post and it doesn't appear in the message archive, then he was not "successful." If the non-subscriber's message did actually post, is your group set up to allow that (see Settings>Message Policies)? Could it be that another moderator approved it?? I'm guessing that the non-subscriber sent something (or more likely, replied to something that was forwarded to him) and CC'ed some of his buddies (or vice versa). If they also do a "reply all" and the group address is among the reply-to addresses, those responses will post even when the original message did not. Things can get messy pretty quickly when someone forwards a group message off-list. Hope this helps, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
开云体育Shal, ? What I have discovered on further research is the non-member is a member, but the email address they used to be a member, is not the email address they used to post to the group. ? The post was made to the group using the non-member email address, along with the responses, in the Messages page. ? In Activity it said "Non-member ... attempted to send message ... via email". For the members that responded it says “sent message…via email” ? The group does not allow non-subscriber posts. ? There is only one other moderator, not one of the people that responded, and Activity does not show that action. The group does not have email integration, and I receive all messages from the group. ? I did search the All Activity tab of the group's Activity log for that non-subscriber email address, and only the "Non-member ... attempted to send message ... via email" showed up. ? Since you mention looking in my Spam folder, I decided to do that. Sure enough all the posts were there (I’ve never had a member’s post go into my Spam folder before), and it looks like one of the members forwarded an email by a non-member. I need to ask that member if that is what they did. ? Don ? |
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The original author might have sent the message to the list and bcc'd it to whomever he knew was on the list. A non-careful recipient might think it was from the list and if they hit reply-all, the replies would go to the list. On Feb 24, 2019 5:06 PM, "Bruce Bowman" <bruce.bowman@...> wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 06:04 PM, <dgrass1@...> wrote: |
开云体育Shal, ? “Since you mention looking in my Spam folder, I decided to do that. Sure enough all the posts were there (I’ve never had a member’s post go into my Spam folder before), and it looks like one of the members forwarded an email by a non-member. I need to ask that member if that is what they did.” ? I asked the member if they forwarded that post from a non-member, and this is what they said. ? “No, not really... I originally sent it from my wife's email account so it was kicked back. Then I sent it correctly.” ? So the non-member email address was his wife’s, which they never use in our group. Now I understand what happened. ? Thanks everyone for trying to help me on this one. ? Don |
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