Migrating mails by simply forwarding all old mails
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Hello everyone
I have a Yahoogroups mailing list that I want to migrate to Groups.io, and it's got about 1200 old mails that I would like to migrate as well. However, it's a small group (about 20 members) and I'm not eager to spend another $110 for the message migration (I'm already spending $110 for a different group). What are your opinions about "migrating" the old messages by simply forwarding them all to the Groups.io list before you allow any new members to join (or: after first setting everyone to nomail)? I realise that some of the threading information will be lost, etc., but at least users will be able to search the content of all old messages. Do you know if Groups.io has some flooding protection which may interfere with such an operation? (The ideal would be if I could simply import an MBOX file, but I can see how that may expose Groups.io to potential abuse.) Thanks Samuel |
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On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 05:06 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
What are your opinions about "migrating" the old messages by simply forwarding them all to the Groups.io list before you allow any new members to join (or: after first setting everyone to nomail)?The only real problems with this idea are that those messages will not be readily searchable by posting date and will all show as being posted by the subscriber who did the forwarding. Depending on your situation this may be less objectionable than leaving them behind. You might consider flagging each forwarded message by adding a hashtag or something.? Hope this helps, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Samuel, What are your opinions about "migrating" the old messages by simply Bruce mentioned marking them with a hashtag, and that has an extra advantage: The hashtag can have the No Email property, avoiding the need to first set the members to No Email. A hashtag like that probably ought to also have the Use by Mods Only property. (The ideal would be if I could simply import an MBOX file, but I can see ? Mark once said he would handle that as a support request (for people transferring from Mailman lists), but I don't think it would be appropriate to ask for that as a way of side-stepping the Premium requirement for Easy Group Transfer. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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On 2019/02/25 03:32 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Samuel wrote: (The ideal would be if I could simply import an MBOX file, but I Mark once said he would handle that as a support request (for peopleIt did not occur to me to ask, but personally I would not consider it inappropriate to ask. After all, uploading an MBOX file takes much less effort than having to create such an MBOX file and then upload it (and I don't need to migrate files, members etc). I just assumed that the option was not available, and I just assumed it was for reasons of abuse prevention (otherwise anyone can upload any mails even if they don't really have the right to use those mails -- if Mark does the transfer, he knows exactly where the mails come from). Samuel |
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On 2019/02/25 02:55 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 05:06 AM, Samuel Murray wrote: What are your opinions about "migrating" the old messages by simply The only real problems with this idea are that those messages will not be readily searchable by posting date and will all show as being posted by the subscriber who did the forwarding. Depending on your situation this may be less objectionable than leaving them behind.Yes, I would create a separate Gmail account for this purpose alone, so all forwarded messages would be from a sender who is not engaged as an actual member. Also, I intend to forward all mails before any other mails are sent, so at least they'll all be at the start of the list. There are 1200 message, but only about 300 threads (as defined by Gmail), so perhaps I can figure out how to save entire threads (as displayed by Gmail) and send the "threads" as single messages. You might consider flagging each forwarded message by adding a hashtag or something.Good idea. I should be able to edit all message's subject lines in bulk (e.g. in Thunderbird you press E on a message in the list). Samuel |
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On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 10:24 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Yes, I would create a separate Gmail account for this purpose alone, so all forwarded messages would be from a sender who is not engaged as an actual member. Also, I intend to forward all mails before any other mails are sent, so at least they'll all be at the start of the list.To the extent that you can, keeping things in chronological order would be a benefit. Actual posting dates can still be gleaned from message headers, if you can find a way to insert them into the body of what you forward. There are 1200 message, but only about 300 threads (as defined by Gmail), so perhaps I can figure out how to save entire threads (as displayed by Gmail) and send the "threads" as single messages.It occurred to me after posting my previous response that the threading done by groups.io as you forward the messages could be a little wonky. For example, I don't know if groups.io treats "Fwd:" the same way it treats "Re:" when threading; and there is a time component (see /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Avoiding-threading-topics---threading-algorithm). Sending an entire thread as a single message could serve to obviate this problem. Regards, Bruce ? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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