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Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups


 

Is there a document or post, with details on how to get the pieces uploaded en masse, from a Yahoo data download into the messages, files, photos sections of a new GIO group?


 

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:06 AM, Cal wrote:
Is there a document or post, with details on how to get the pieces uploaded en masse, from a Yahoo data download into the messages, files, photos sections of a new GIO group?
Not a lot.? You may want to investigate the topic at /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/37953856, specifically /g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251 for information about uploading the messages.? Files and Photos should be pretty straightforward.

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I'm confused.? Isn't there a straightforward way to get the messages from a Privacy Dashboard download (into mbox format) uploaded into the messages for a new groups.io group?? (How was this done in Easy Transfer?)


 
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 01:43 PM, Cal wrote:
I'm confused.
You're not alone.

Isn't there a straightforward way to get the messages from a Privacy Dashboard download (into mbox format) uploaded into the messages for a new groups.io group?
No.

I will try my best to explain, if you will try your best to follow along.

It's my understanding that the PG-to-GIO software for Windows will somehow repost the messages from its own SQL database. This software remains in beta. You need to pay $25 to Wilson for the initial SQL download using PG Offline (separate Windows software) -- and do that before Dec 14 -- plus an additional fee of some kind for the PG-to-GIO upload software, when it becomes available. Rumor has it that the latter will cost more than $25, so you'll be spending a minimum of $50 if you want to go this route.

One advantage to this option is that at least some of the group attachments are downloaded to PG Offline, and the upload software might reattach them at the time of re-posting. Donald or Lawrence or Wilson will have to clarify.

Meanwhile, Lena has created a Perl script that will do something similar to upload an mbox file. Full details are here (/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251). This costs nothing, and in conjunction with your Privacy Dashboard download, seems to accomplish the same objectives as the Personal Groupware suite. The process, however, is substantially more complicated, as you'll see when you read the linked message above.

It's my understanding that neither of these approaches will properly assign "ownership" of each message to its original poster, nor will the posting dates be correct. So...for example...the posting table/calendar on your home page will not reflect the original posting dates, nor will you be able to use the functions of the GIO search engine to filter these old posts by date or subscriber.

If you want that capability, you had to either do the Easy Group Transfer (too late now), or have Mark eventually upload your existing mbox file(s) for you. Mark's previous posts suggest that he would again expect a payment for Premium Yearly ($220) if you want him to do this. If anyone has gotten this done for them recently, they haven't bothered to come back here to GMF and say so.

Of course, you can always just upload your Yahoo message archive to your GIO group as a file, and many people have opted for that. If you want to convert it to human-readable form without all the html and header information, you can open it in and convert it to a flat text file using the . A few other email clients probably also have this capability.

See also Shal's recent post?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/25761.

(How was this done in Easy Transfer?)
For the Easy Group Transfer, Mark did?not do a Privacy Dashboard download of the group. The messages were captured in some other way, probably related to his Chrome browser add-on (). I have personally used this add-on to capture messages, and it does work, when Yahoo itself isn't acting up. The Privacy Dashboard download is more straightforward.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


 

I can't use any Windows solution - Mac only.
Will Mark's YahooMessagesApplication make the From field and the message date work properly?


 

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:41 PM, Cal wrote:
I can't use any Windows solution - Mac only.
Will Mark's YahooMessagesApplication make the From field and the message date work properly?
My programmer husband has used a Windows emulator on his Mac. But you have to get the emulator plus buy Windows.
He suggests you look at Wineskin - free open source.
or
Crossover - costs about $60 but it won't run all applications.
It is based on Wineskin but is easier to use.

He says that if you have more money than time, your best bet is the emulator.

Frances
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:41 PM, Cal wrote:
I can't use any Windows solution - Mac only.
If you don't want to run an emulator, then PG Offline is off the table.

Will Mark's YahooMessagesApplication make the From field and the message date work properly?
Presumably. If you contact Mark and get him to upload your mbox files for you, please report back on how things went and what the price point is.

Bruce


 

(I'm responding to both Frances' and Bruce's replies herein.)

I can't spend any money on this, unless Mark wants to do all the small groups for one price.? And I already spent hours getting this done in time for the Dec 5 deadline, so I don't have much more time, though I might have a couple of volunteers.

These are about 8-10 small groups, most with only a handful of files (some with no files), most with a few hundred messages (or less).

As I said - no Windows, please.? I'm looking for free solutions that don't involve anything related to Windows.? This is a one-shot deal and I'm going to learn how to use Windows, which does a number of fundamental things counter-intuitively to my 20 years of "muscle memory built on the Mac.? Sorry, just consider it a limitation of mine.

Bruce, how would I contact Mark to see if he'd I might get him to upload the mbox files?

On 12/9/19 4:57 PM, Frances wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:41 PM, Cal wrote:

I can't use any Windows solution - Mac only.
Will Mark's YahooMessagesApplication make the From field and the
message date work properly?

My programmer husband has used a Windows emulator on his Mac. But you have to get the emulator plus buy Windows.
He suggests you look at Wineskin - free open source.
or
Crossover - costs about $60 but it won't run all applications.
It is based on Wineskin but is easier to use.

He says that if you have more money than time, your best bet is the emulator.
On 12/9/19 5:11 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:41 PM, Cal wrote:

I can't use any Windows solution - Mac only.

If you don't want to run an emulator, then PG Offline is off the table.

Will Mark's YahooMessagesApplication make the From field and the
message date work properly?

Presumably. If you contact Mark and get him to upload your mbox files for you, please report back on how things went and what the price point is.

Bruce


 

Cal -- Um, I think your expectations are more than a little unrealistic. But you can want what you want to want.

Here are your free options:

-- Upload the messages to your files area, converted to plain text or not, or...
-- Figure out how to use Lena's Perl script.

I already told you how to do these things in message #25789. Not going down that road again.

You can contact Mark at [email protected],?but I can guarantee that he won't upload your mbox files for nothing. If he was to do that, he'd have to do it for everybody; and I'm sure he has other fish to fry.

Bruce


 

I have the information about Lena's script.
I thought you said there was an option to use Mark's YahooMessagesApplication in Chrome, yes?

On 12/10/19 2:28 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Cal -- Um, I think your expectations are more than a little unrealistic. But you can want what you want to want.

Here are your free options:

-- Upload the messages to your files area, converted to plain text or not, or...
-- Figure out how to use Lena's Perl script.

I already told you how to do these things in message #25789 </g/GroupManagersForum/message/25789>. Not going down that road again.

You can contact Mark at [email protected], <mailto:[email protected],>?but I can guarantee that he won't upload your mbox files for nothing. If he was to do that, he'd have to do it for everybody; and I'm sure he has other fish to fry.

Bruce


 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 02:38 AM, Cal wrote:
I thought you said there was an option to use Mark's YahooMessagesApplication in Chrome, yes?
To download messages from Yahoo, yes. But you already have a download.

Recall that you asked me how Mark downloaded the messages from Yahoo group, if he wasn't using the Privacy Dashboard. I responded by telling you about that script.

Bruce


 

Sorry for continuing to ask questions - I'm trying to get to the last bit of clarity with this.
Will I be able to us YahooMessagesApplication to download the messages in a format (not mbox) that can be uploaded correctly into a new group?
Cal


 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 08:37 PM, Cal wrote:
Will I be able to us YahooMessagesApplication to download the messages in a format (not mbox) that can be uploaded correctly into a new group?
No.

Bruce


 

Cal,
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The YahooMessagesApplication was mentioned here just last week.? It works in a web browser BASED on Chrome and not Chrome itself from how I read it.?

Back in October, I wasn't at all successful getting the YahooMessagesApplication app to even work right.? I then went to try the other Python scripts.? But these too had troubling issues as YG did something different behind the scene preventing the Python scripts from acquiring anything.

Lastly, our group opted with PGO aka PGOffline reader and downloaded for Yahoo Groups (YG).? This worked the very first time right from the install.

SADLY, the clock is ticking.? You have less than 72-hours to get PGO up, running and pulling data from YG.?

Other than the Yahoo Request for the groups' data, and it took myself 9 tries, the PGO was the ONLY way for us to go and it worked.? Our YG owner and then the mods left in 2009.? We were left on auto-pilot.? Some folks went to a PBB forum and others to a FB group.? The core users stayed behind and have now jumped with us to GIO.
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