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Has something changed with the message footers?


 

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I have had my group set up so that replies go to the group, but all reply options are available and I have seen this as the footer on our messages (which is fine):

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Now, for whatever reason, the same settings are giving me this footer (which is far more confusing to my users and which is missing the "reply to sender" option):

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View/Reply Online (#692):

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If I change my settings so that replies go to the group AND sender, I get the cleaner footer back, but if people just reply to a message it goes to both the group and the sender so senders get duplicate messages if the reply-er doesn't remove their name from the address bar. ??I've made this change to clean up the footers for now, but I'm afraid this is going to cause some consternation when people start getting duplicate replies.?

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Janet

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Janet,

I have had my group set up so that replies go to the group, but all reply options are available and I have seen this as the footer on our messages (which is fine):

View/Reply Online (#4974) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic
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Now, for whatever reason, the same settings are giving me this footer (which is far more confusing to my users and which is missing the "reply to sender" option):

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View/Reply Online (#692):

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You've been fooled by a coincidence.

The difference in footers has to do with whether the message was formatted (HTML) or plain text. It does not depend on your group's Reply-To setting.

You can force all messages to have the formatted footer, if you want: check the Force HTML Emails checkbox in the Message Formatting section of your group's Settings page.

Shal


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Not the first time I've been fooled!? That explains the formatting, but not the missing "Reply to Sender" option. ???So is that something not possible with the text versions?? ?Thanks.? Janet

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You've been fooled by a coincidence.

The difference in footers has to do with whether the message was formatted (HTML) or plain text. It does not depend on your group's Reply-To setting.

You can force all messages to have the formatted footer, if you want: check the Force HTML Emails checkbox in the Message Formatting section of your group's Settings page.

Shal


 

Janet,

That explains the formatting, but not the missing "Reply to Sender"
option. So is that something not possible with the text versions?
The Reply to Group and Reply to Sender links are "mailto:" links. Those have proven problematic in plain text (not all email interfaces "linkify" them) and they are particularly ugly as URLs. For example:

mailto:desertminis@...?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5BGMF%5D%20Has%20something%20changed%20with%20the%20message%20footers%3F

So, while it might be technically possible, Mark felt that on the whole including them would be more trouble than they're worth.

Shal


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On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 02:22 pm, Shal Farley wrote:


The difference in footers has to do with whether the message was formatted
(HTML) or plain text. It does not depend on your group's *Reply-To* setting.

You can force all messages to have the formatted footer, if you want: check
the *Force HTML Emails* checkbox in the Message Formatting section of your
group's Settings page.
I used to be part of a non-Yahoo group where moderators severely chastised members for writing their posts in HTML. So I've learned to steer clear of HTML and write in plain text, which, I must admit, is less headache provoking without all that flourish of colours and fonts. Yet, the kind of plain text footer mentioned by Janet is really annoying.

The "Force HTML Emails" choice might cause any problems to members, I wonder?

Marina


 

Marina,

... is less headache provoking without all that flourish of colours
and fonts. ...

The "Force HTML Emails" choice might cause any problems to members, I
wonder?
Probably not. But there's also the "Normalize HTML Emails" checkbox, which will strip out the different colors and fonts, while leaving simple formatting like bold and italic, and image inserts.

Shal


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