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Group default settings for Photos

 

Before requesting this as an option on Beta, I thought I would bring it up on GMF first.? Perhaps it has been discussed here or on Beta before and I just didn't find it.? I find the Alphabetical default setting for photos less than optimal for our group use.? We are a small group, but one of our primary uses is for sharing "show & tell " photos each week.? I create an album for each month, into which the photos are posted weekly.? Ideally, I would like the option to make the default group settings to sort the photo albums (and photos within each album) by date.?

Yes, I know that each subscriber can change the sort order when viewing the photos online.? But that selection reverts to the default alphabetical listing each time the group is visited.? I might be successful in teaching my members how to change the setting once, but most of them are unlikely to remember how to do it or be willing to do it each time.? We are, in general, not a tech savvy nor tech comfortable group of older ladies.? (I'm not implying that this applies to all "old ladies", but it is accurate for my particular group.)? When I post a message telling them that new photos have been added, I include a link that will take them to the proper album.

Currently, my "work around" for keeping the most recent albums at the beginning of our Photos pages, is to name my albums with a leading zero, such as "0-August 2018". This puts them before any of the "alphabetic" only albums.? But this is not ideal.? I would much prefer to be able to choose a default for the group that will sort them chronologically by the date posted.? In other words, I would like to be able to choose among the options available within each album, and have them apply to the group.? This would give each group owner the ability to choose a default that would be most suitable for their use.

Has this been requested on Beta previously?? If so, any idea if it is on Mark's to do list?? Shall I request it again?

Thanks,
Dotty






Jim Higgins
 

If you just want to sort chronologically, name them with dates in ISO format; i.e., 2018-08-20 if posted today.

Jim H



Received from Dotty Bell at 8/20/2018 06:36 PM UTC:

Currently, my "work around" for keeping the most recent albums at the beginning of our Photos pages, is to name my albums with a leading zero, such as "0-August 2018". This puts them before any of the "alphabetic" only albums. But this is not ideal. I would much prefer to be able to choose a default for the group that will sort them chronologically by the date posted.
 

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Currently, my "work around" for keeping the most recent albums at the beginning of our Photos pages, is to name my albums with a leading zero, such as "0-August 2018". This puts them before any of the "alphabetic" only albums. But this is not ideal. I would much prefer to be able to choose a default for the group that will sort them chronologically by the date posted.

Jim replied:
If you just want to sort chronologically, name them with dates in ISO format; i.e., 2018-08-20 if posted today.

Jim,
Thanks for your suggestion, but I don't think that solves my problem.? That is likely how I will name my albums if given the option to set the Photo default to sort "chronologically" or date posted instead alphabetically.? And I'm aware that system will work for the current year with the alphabetical default as it is now.?? But if I use the ISO format to rename all our albums, it will force the earlier years (2011 through 2017) to appear before the current 2018 year albums.? And at the beginning of next year, my 2019-01 album will follow the 2018-12 album, rather than appear before it.? That is why I want the option to set the group default sort to a first/last "date posted" order.? I want to be able to keep the most recent albums at the beginning of our Photo pages when our members go to the website to view them, without their having to change the sort order each time.? I don't think the ISO format will do that consistently from year to year with the current default.

Dotty
 

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 08:28 PM, Dotty Bell wrote:
I don't think the ISO format will do that consistently from year to year with the current default.
Yeah, that's what I thought when I read Jim's post, too. But the fact remains that you could come up with your own folder naming convention that would automatically put the desired album first.

Failing that, you can go ahead and make this suggestion in beta; just be prepared for the idea not getting a lot of traction. The functionality to sort albums in reverse chronological order already exists, and there are a lot of very good pending proposals that haven't been implemented at all.
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Dotty,

Yes, I know that each subscriber can change the sort order when
viewing the photos online. But that selection reverts to the default
alphabetical listing each time the group is visited.
This would be my suggestion: the site ought to remember the visitor's viewing options when he/she leaves the page and comes back.

I would much prefer to be able to choose a default for the group that
will sort them chronologically by the date posted.
I'm actually against putting viewing options like this into settings or preferences pages. I detest them because they're never what I want right now, but changing it means navigating my way to wherever it is set, then finding my way back to what I was doing. That's not so hard, usually, but it is an interruption to my train of thought.

My objection is even stronger when I have to beg a group owner to change it because (as a member) I can't.

Has this been requested on Beta previously?
I found a reference to being able to sort Albums by date, which has been implemented (albeit without memory). In a quick glance I didn't see a reference to making a group (or individual) option to preset the order, or to remember the order.

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I would agree that the system should remember a user's choice of order for each group's photos, rather them have to change it each time.?

And also that it should be possible for group owners to set - for such things - a group default (that can be overridden by users), based on their group and their understanding of its members, in the settings section.?

Jeremy
 

Jeremy,

And also that it should be possible for group owners to set - for such
things - a group default (that can be overridden by users), based on
their group and their understanding of its members, in the settings
section.
A difficulty I see with that is "when does it apply".

It can't be each time I visit the page, because then I'd be in the same boat I'm in now, but with a group-chosen default instead of a site-chosen one.

Applying the group default only when I (the member) have never used the viewing control (in the current browser) would suit me fine, but might make some owners feel like their setting isn't working.

Applying the group default at each fresh login might be a suitable compromise. But like most compromises runs the risk of satisfying no one.

Another difficulty (though mostly work for Mark) is that this would now introduce a per-group dependence in the user's view controls. Too, as a person with multiple group subscriptions, I might find it disconcerting to have the view order change just because I navigated to another group.

Shal


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I'll weigh-in on this ... being able to set a "default" sort for photos would be great solution ... This would make everyone happy as they could set the default sort to whatever makes sense them. It's very annoying to have to resort photos each visit, especially if you have recently posted pictures and someone in the group can't find them because the default sort is "title".
Dennis

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