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Can two Yahoo Groups be merged into one Groups.io group

 

Good morning...

I am one of the owners of two Yahoo Groups...we are photographers and we exchange Black and White Prints (group 1) and Color Prints (group 2) on a monthly basis.? The Black and White Group has existed since 2002.? There are conversations and as importantly photo albums.? The Color Group was founded in 2008 and also has conversations and photo albums.

I have recently created two groups at Groups.io and we are in the process of preparing to port the two groups to when the logic question is asked...why not just put everything into one group?? No subgroups.? Simply both groups come into one group. ?

The question is simple...can the team do this?? Two Yahoo Groups into one Groups.io group?

As I have thought through the consequences of:
  • Merging conversations from two groups into one...I think it will be OK.? There may be some confusion but I don't know that it will matter much (as it's all water under the bridge).
  • Merging photo albums may also be confusing, particularly if they have the same names...but I am willing to take the time to sort through the photos and albums to get things sorted if there are problems.
  • The Yahoo Groups will be left intact for at least a couple of years...so we will have an example of how things were.

I did look in the Wiki and do not see this addressed.? Thank you in advance.

-Jim Coffee-
 

You'd need to ask Mark to be sure, but I suspect he could do it. Because of the possible confusion and/or the Photo duplicates, I think I'd be more apt to keep them separate though.

Duane
 

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 08:49 am, Jim Coffee wrote:

why not just put everything into one group?
Because on a free group space for Photos, Files and attachments combined
is limited to 1 GB.
 

Jim . . .

On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 07:55:14 -0700, "Jim Coffee" <jim@...>
wrote:

I have recently created two groups at Groups.io and we are in the process of preparing to port the two groups to groups.io when the logic question is asked...why not just put everything into one group? No subgroups. Simply both groups come into one group.

It can be done because we did it with our homesteading group Prudent
Living in groups.io. We had two very similar groups on Yahoo and
thought it would be best to combine and move them.

Be aware that the files section in your new group will likely need to
be rearranged after the move. Ours was a mess. The group and messages
moved fine.

If you're serious about doing this, get started now as there is (or
was) a limit to how many groups Mark could move in one day because of
some changes at Yahoo. There was a waiting list the last I heard.

Also, unless you personally know everyone in your Yahoo group(s) and
it's a small one, even though you make an announcement, there will be
some who are surprised when it happens. We lost some members who
weren't paying attention.

Explain that they should check their spam folder to unmark (not delete
after reading) any groups.io messages from spam to mail so that they
don't automatically get unsubscribed. Many sites are now using various
email provider's spam mechanism to unsubscribe people as part of an
agreement to reduce spam.

Donald
 

I appreciate everyone's replies.? Based on those replies I intend to communicate the question to Mark (just a sanity check on my part) and then assuming he says he can do it...I'll order the move sometime soon.? Yes, I understand that I need to effectively communicate with the present membership so that we lose as few as possible.? I appreciate this GroupManagersForum.

With best regards
-Jim Coffee-
'one of the group moderators'


Useful links:
?Print Exchange group
Black & White?
Cumulative B/W
Black & White?
Print Exchange group

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On 22 March 2017 at 05:26, Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> wrote:
Jim . . .

On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 07:55:14 -0700, "Jim Coffee" <jim@...>
wrote:

>I have recently created two groups at Groups.io and we are in the process of preparing to port the two groups to when the logic question is asked...why not just put everything into one group?? No subgroups.? Simply both groups come into one group.


It can be done because we did it with our homesteading group Prudent
Living in . We had two very similar groups on Yahoo and
thought it would be best to combine and move them.

Be aware that the files section in your new group will likely need to
be rearranged after the move. Ours was a mess. The group and messages
moved fine.

If you're serious about doing this, get started now as there is (or
was) a limit to how many groups Mark could move in one day because of
some changes at Yahoo. There was a waiting list the last I heard.

Also, unless you personally know everyone in your Yahoo group(s) and
it's a small one, even though you make an announcement, there will be
some who are surprised when it happens. We lost some members who
weren't paying attention.

Explain that they should check their spam folder to unmark (not delete
after reading) any messages from spam to mail so that they
don't automatically get unsubscribed. Many sites are now using various
email provider's spam mechanism to unsubscribe people as part of an
agreement to reduce spam.

Donald
 

Just FYI if others reference this thread in the future...here is the reply from Mark...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Jim,

Yes, we can combine the two groups for you. It shouldn't be an issue. Just go through the easy transfer process for each group.

Cheers,
Mark

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

After I've combined the two groups I'll make one last post here.

-Jim Coffee
 

And the results of this move are...!

  • These were two old groups at Yahoo...one that was started in 2002 and the other in 2008. ?I was nervous before this move. ?Didn't want to screw anything up.
  • The move (and merge of the two groups) went off flawlessly.
  • All of the messages moved over properly and were intact.
  • The photo albums (120+) moved over properly and were intact.
  • An unexpected bonus was that membership moved over with their original join date...as opposed to showing as joining on the date moved to groups.io. ?A little thing...but very important.
  • All of the group message history display properly...and going all the way back to 2002.
  • Group members needed to do nothing. ?Just have to know the new email address for posting messages.
  • Had about ~380 at Yahoo. ?The groups.io team was able to move about ~300. ?Of those 300 about ~11 have unsubscribed. ?They were all 'in-actives', so that's fine.
  • Have already had positive comments from the membership.
  • It feels so good to be away from Yahoo.

Couldn't be happier. ?The groups.io platform is wonderful...a nice breath of fresh air. ?The groups.io team did a great job with this transition.

-Jim Coffee-

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