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We had a member that was unsubscribed due to the SPAM filter and was rather upset over it. If a member uses the link sent to re -subscribe will owners/moderators be notified so that we can put them on moderation or will they be given the same privileges that they had before the SPAM filter unsubscribed them?

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Ken

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Ken,

If a member uses the link sent to re -subscribe will owners/moderators
be notified ...
Yes.

Subject: Subscriber has rejoined [email protected]

(Of course, naming the posting address of your group, rather than GMF)

so that we can put them on moderation or will they be given the same
privileges that they had before the SPAM filter unsubscribed them?
Their subscription settings are retained, including Posting Privileges.

Shal


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Shal,

Their subscription settings are retained, including Posting Privileges.
Thank you for clearing that up for me.

In our case this member has been hesitant to post to the group and the auto-Unsubscribe-message coincidently went out the day after their first post. I believe the member read the auto post as saying that they were unsubscribed due to posting a message the owners thought was SPAM. In our case the member's primary language is English, thus a language barrier is not the issue. I believe the member quickly read the auto-message, read what they had "FEARED MAY" be the reaction to their post and reacted emotionally to what they "THOUGHT" was intended in the auto-message.

I'd like to suggest four small changes, including strategic CAPITALIZATION, to the message to ensure our members read it as intended. I don't think we can be too simplistic when telling a member that they have been removed from a group.

You have been automatically removed from the GROUPNAME because "YOUR" Email Service Provider reported to us that one or more messages "SENT TO YOU" from GROUPNAME has been marked as spam "BY YOU OR YOUR E-MAIL PROVIDER and NOT DUE TO ANY POST FROM YOU". We suggest that you check your spam box as soon as possible to see if "YOUR" Email Service Provider has diverted legitimate messages into it.

Ken

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Not to act is to act."
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Ken,


In our case this member has been hesitant to post to the group and the auto-Unsubscribe-message coincidently went out the day after their first post.

Ouch. I can see why he/she might jump to the wrong conclusion.

It might not be entirely coincidence. Some email services tend to view messages that arrive "From" your own email address as more likely to be spam. That potentially could have triggered the report back to Groups.io; but it really shouldn't have, or at least not until the message auto-deleted from the Spam folder.?

I don't know if it would help, but you could point the member to GMF's wiki page on the subject:

That might help him/her see the situation dispassionately.

Shal


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On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 04:50 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:
In our case the member's primary language is English, thus a language barrier is not the issue.
I'm not sure that that assertion is correct; you can have no idea what the first language of the person who wrote the ISP's spam detection software is.

That said, you and your member still have my full sympathy.

Chris


 

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Hi Shal,

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Again thank you. Many of our members are NOT technical savvy and would be lost in a lot of what is posted on the FAQ. As a retired techy I have written more than my share of overly technical papers to non-technical people and now I wish I had some of my critiquers available <SM>.

As I don't want to fill this group with my attempted explanation to our members, I will forward it to you off group.

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Again thanks,

Ken

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I think the best way to handle member upset over auto-unsubscibe is
for an Owner or Moderator to correspond with the person and explain what happened.
If Owners leave it up to the system the member will feel like they are being handled totally by bots.

Owners & Moderators do have a responsibility toward their subscribers and this is one step in cementing that relationship.

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>I think the best way to handle member upset over auto-unsubscibe is
>for an Owner or Moderator to correspond with the person and explain what happened.
>If Owners leave it up to the system the member will feel like they are being handled totally by bots.

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Bob, I agree we need to communicate with our members, but why not prevent the confusion so that we do not have to undo a mess. I'd rather lock the gate while the horses are penned up than to tell the rancher to lock his gate after his horses are out.

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Ken