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Implications of letting people try a Groups.io
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Matty Smith
Hi
I am sure this has already been covered but I could not find anything on a quick search. Our Group is looking to move from Yahoo. There is a lot of interest in Groups.io as an alternative and we have set up a test site to explore it throughly. What are the implications of letting some of our members join the Groups.io test site to see what it is like, if we then decide to move to Groups.io and request a transfer? Will the fact that some of the Yahoo members will already be in the Groups.io make for a problem? Thank you Matty |
J_Catlady
No, no problem there. They will simply be noted as already being members and the transfer won't touch them. On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Matty Smith <mattysmith.smith@...> wrote: Hi |
our group has been moved from yahoo to groups.io just 4 days ago, but the site was set up a week before and 7 of us tested it. Our members are absolutely thrilled at how much easier groups.io is. But it is important for some of your group to test it, if only to learn what is a bit different in areas you will face right away. Not wrong, just different. Barb Jones From: Matty Smith <mattysmith.smith@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 12:44 PM Subject: [GMF] Implications of letting people try a Groups.io #transfer Hi I am sure this has already been covered but I could not find anything on a quick search. Our Group is looking to move from Yahoo. There is a lot of interest in Groups.io as an alternative and we have set up a test site to explore it throughly. What are the implications of letting some of our members join the Groups.io test site to see what it is like, if we then decide to move to Groups.io and request a transfer? Will the fact that some of the Yahoo members will already be in the Groups.io make for a problem? Thank you Matty |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMatty, ? I¡¯m in the same situation as you are as an owner of a Yahoo Groups site, and I have already been working on getting our new home ready for transfer. I got our Groups.io group set up first as a really bare bones site, then I invited my one other moderator so we could get a feel for what it will be like. We uploaded a file, a few pictures, worked on making some links in the Wiki page, made settings changes, and studied the differences between the two sites. We also joined GFM to learn what we could, and came to the conclusion Groups.io would be a viable option to move our group too. There are differences for sure between the two sites, and I¡¯m hoping in time Groups.io will improve things. The biggest short comings to me are no regular links page that allows for folders, and the inability to reorder pictures. What I understand about members that you invited to join the test group, is when the transfer is done those members will still be in the new site. ? Don ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matty Smith
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 12:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GMF] Implications of letting people try a Groups.io #transfer ? Hi |
Matty Smith
Hi
Many thnaks for the response. Just a further question-many if our members have a Yahoo email address to access the Yahoo Group but they have other email addresss which they would prefer to use to access a new group. If they joined the test Group.io what would happen if we then migrated? They would be in Groups.io with one email address and in Yahoo with another. Thanks Matty |
Matty,
That's exactly what we did and it caused no problems. Donald On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:37:16 -0800, "Matty Smith" <mattysmith.smith@...> wrote: What are the implications of letting some of our members join the Groups.io test site to see what it is like, if we then decide to move to Groups.io and request a transfer? Will the fact that some of the Yahoo members will already be in the Groups.io make for a problem? The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it. --George Orwell |
Members can use whatever email address they want. And it is easy to change or update it. Additionally members can have a second (alternate) address as well.?
Check in the top right of any group, including this one - click on your name and you will see the change email address. Click to open the Email Alias section to add an alternative address as well. /account Frances |
On 01/18/2018 09:24 PM, Matty Smith wrote:
members have a Yahoo email address to access the Yahoo Group but theyIf Example@... currently delivers email to address@..., then [email protected] will send email to address@... If Example@... currently delivers email example@..., then [email protected] will deliver email to Example@.... I do not know what happens when Example@... does not deliver email. If address@... currently receives from Groups.IO, then [email protected] is automatically added to their current list of groups. I don't know how to tell Groups.IO that email for example@... should be sent to address@.... This is something that I think any group migrating from YahooGroups to Groups.IO should include, as part of the "what will happen during migration" information. However, of the twenty or so YahooGroups I subscribe to, that migrated to Groups.IO, none of them provided that information. jonathon |
Jonathon,
If Example@... currently delivers email toWhich is just another way of saying that the email addresses in the Yahoo Group's Manage Members list are copied exactly to the Groups.io group's Members list. I do not know what happens when Example@... does notMembers' subscription settings are copied along with their address. So selections like Individual/Digest/NoEmail should remain the same for each member. I don't know how to tell Groups.IO that email for example@...There isn't a way to have that happen automatically, but if you don't want to continue using the address you had used for your Yahoo Groups then, as Frances mentioned, you can change your address at Groups.io after the transfer has completed. However, of the twenty or so YahooGroups I subscribe to, that migratedIf you are subscribed to more than one Yahoo Group that transfers to Groups.io things can get confused if you change your Groups.io email address after some groups transfer but before other groups do. In that case you'll end up with two Groups.io accounts, one under each email address, and there is currently no means to merge those accounts together (though maybe support can do it for you). Shal |
Matty,
Just a further question-many if our members have a Yahoo email addressThey would end up with two subscriptions in your Groups.io group, one under the other email address they joined with, and one under the Yahoo address that was transferred. As far as Groups.io is concerned, those two addresses are two separate people, and all of their transferred content (messages, files, photos, etc.) will be tied to the transferred address. This is a bit of a thorny issue because there is currently no way to merge two accounts. Unless maybe support can do that for them. So until there's a better solution, the work-around is for them to maintain two subscriptions in your group. One the "other" address they use for current posting and receiving, plus the Yahoo address which they can set to "No Email" and use only when needed to manage (edit or delete) transferred content. It will be important to maintain that Yahoo email address in good standing so that they can receive login or password-reset emails there in case they lose the password on that account. A better solution, if it is not too late, would be for them to wait until after the group is transferred, and then change their email address to the "other" one. But if they've already logged in to Groups.io with the "other" address then it already has an account, and they won't be able to change the transferred account to use that address. That would amount to merging those two accounts, which currently cannot be done. Hmm... I wonder if the influx of group transfers will be putting a lot of people in this position, and if that will motivate Mark to create a solution for them rather than handle them all manually through support. I hope so. Shal |