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Passive voice confusion

 

"You have reached the limit for number of invites that can be sent out without approval. Once your new invites have been approved, they will be sent out. You will receive a notification when this happens."

I mistakenly uploaded not the memberlist but the archive of the yahoo group in zip form.? As a consequence I got the above passive voice message.

In my private email, I was informed that the file was not the right format.

Then when I located the proper file (TSV format) and tried to upload it, I got the passive voice message again.

So, now I'm wondering:

Does "new invites have been approved" mean the people?I've invited have approved being added to the email list on ?? Or does it mean management will go through some sort of approval process?? Or does it mean I, as group manager must approve the invites somewhere?in the menu structure?

And why does any of this make any sense since told me the file was not processed?
 

Have you looked under Admin > Invite

Where you should find a list of those invitations sent

My guess is the first didn't get actioned as it was the wrong format

Checking the Invites sent should tell you if the second batch went

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 13/01/2021 19:00, James Bowery wrote:
"You have reached the limit for number of invites that can be sent out without approval. Once your new invites have been approved, they will be sent out. You will receive a notification when this happens."
I mistakenly uploaded not the memberlist but the archive of the yahoo group in zip form.? As a consequence I got the above passive voice message.
In my private email, I was informed that the file was not the right format.
Then when I located the proper file (TSV format) and tried to upload it, I got the passive voice message again.
So, now I'm wondering:
Does "new invites have been approved" mean the people?I've invited have approved being added to the email list on groups.io <>? Or does it mean groups.io <> management will go through some sort of approval process?? Or does it mean I, as group manager must approve the invites somewhere?in the menu structure?
And why does any of this make any sense since groups.io <> told me the file was not processed?
 

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?Invite??Sent Invitations

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There are no invitations.
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James,

In your first message you said that you have tried uploading your invitation list twice. The first time, you accidentally uploaded your Yahoo! Groups data file in ZIP format, so that didn't work for obvious reasons. The second time, you uploaded a TSV file. That would not work either. The instruction says: "Upload a file containing the email addresses to invite, one per line." The only format acceptable is a plain text file with one email address (and, optionally, a Display Name) per line. So, on each line you can have
email@...
or
Display Name <email@...>

Try putting together a text file with that format and upload it. If you do more than 20 invitations at a time, you'll get the "waiting for approval" message. That just means that the addresses are being validated, which usually takes less than an hour, and often is very quick. Check your "Invites Sent" once in a while and pretty soon they will appear.

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As illustrated by my prior response, "Sent Invitations" says no invitations have been sent.? So, presuming there must have been some problem with my submission I tried again.

After re-submitting the tab separated name and email lines I received feedback that the emails were invalid and I figured out they had been surrounded by quotes.? So I removed all quotes and re-submitted again.

This time no errors but rather the message about needing "approval" again:

"You have reached the limit for number of invites that can be sent out without approval. Once your new invites have been approved, they will be sent out. You will receive a notification when this happens."

Yet when I went to the "Sent Invitations" page, it, again, said "There are no invitations."

The phrase "reached the limit" seems to imply that up till that limit, invitations are sent but then beyond that limit they are only sent after "approval".

How many invitations can be sent without approval?? How many invitations?are sent without approval when there are too many for all?to be sent without approval?? None?
 

Somename <someguys@...>

one per line submitted.

Some of the lines are just a leading blank with:

?<someguys@...>

Thanks!
 

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 03:16 PM, James Bowery wrote:
Some of the lines are just a leading blank with:

?<someguys@...>
No leading blanks and no < > on those.? Have a look at /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/inviting-people-to-join-a-group

Duane
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OK, I egrep'ed those out, removed the spurious characters and submitted them in the web form.?

There were 30 of them.

Thanks for the corrections.

I suppose I should have known the '<' and '>' were literal in the name, email line format.
 

James,


I suppose I should have known the '<' and '>' were literal in the name, email line format.

Correct.

The form:

John Doe <JohnDoe@...>

In addition to sending the Invitation to their Email this form presets the invitee's Display Name to John Doe if their account does not already have a Display Name set.

Shal

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James,


After re-submitting the tab separated name and email lines I received feedback that the emails were invalid and I figured out they had been surrounded by quotes.? So I removed all quotes and re-submitted again.


Quotes may only be used to surround the Display Name, as in:

"Doe, John" <JohnDoe@...>

When the display name contains a syntax character (comma and some others) the quotes are required.


The phrase "reached the limit" seems to imply that up till that limit, invitations are sent but then beyond that limit they are only sent after "approval".

I believe that the entire batch is held for approval and then sent at once when approved.

How many invitations can be sent without approval??

Twenty in a 24-hour period. But it isn't worth breaking up your list into shorter submissions, that just incurs a delay for each batch. Send as many as you have in a single batch and you only incur the approval delay once.

Shal


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