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Yahoo blocking groups io email? #email

 

Recently I have started receiving messages that members have been blocked because they or their email service marked an email from groups.io as spam.

I noticed that all of these were users that have Yahoo email addresses.

It makes me wonder if Yahoo is rejecting emails from groups.io.
 

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 07:45 AM, Rik Rasmussen wrote:
Recently I have started receiving messages that members have been blocked because they or their email service marked an email from groups.io as spam.

I noticed that all of these were users that have Yahoo email addresses.
That seems to happen at random.? Y! may change something in their spam routine and more messages get misdirected to the spam folder.? If members aren't paying attention and moving those from GIO to their Inbox, the next time Y! automatically empties the spam folder, the problem occurs.? I seriously doubt that it's intentional.

Duane
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It's been happening sporadically to all email providers that were assimilated by Yahoo (aol.com, etc...) for over a year.

The last two in my lists were Yahoo mail about the same as in the past few months.

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ken clark

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A big problem with Yahoo mail is the placement of "Delete" button just next to "Spam" button. Several times by accident you click Spam when you are really want to delete. Then you get a "removed from GIO" message instantly.?
 

I would have thought the simple solution to that is don't use Yahoo ?

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 11/04/2020 12:35, Prasad via groups.io wrote:
A big problem with Yahoo mail is the placement of "Delete" button just next to "Spam" button. Several times by accident you click Spam when you are really want to delete. Then you get a "removed from GIO" message instantly.
dcbanks
 

I think that¡¯s a bit facetious, changing email supplier is not a simple solution as anybody knows who tries. You still have to use the current supplier to forward emails to your new address, no supplier is perfect etc. etc. I have had email from Yahoo/BT for 40 years, yep, they have their faults but enough to change.

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I would have thought the simple solution to that is don't use Yahoo ?

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 11/04/2020 12:35, Prasad via groups.io wrote:
A big problem with Yahoo mail is the placement of "Delete" button just
next to "Spam" button. Several times by accident you click Spam when
you are really want to delete. Then you get a "removed from GIO"
message instantly.




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On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:51 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
I would have thought the simple solution to that is don't use Yahoo ?
On the face of it that would be the sensible thing to do, but it would seem (anecdotally anyway) that many or even most mail providers have their own way of making life difficult for their paying customers.

Or perhaps I am just over - sensitive to this possibility, having suffered from it in the last week.

Chris
 

Who pays for email ?

You don't actually have to change to another emailer, just don't use the web interface if thats where the problem is with aforementioned buttons

Use Thunderbird or another email client

I only ever go to the web interface to check spam

I still have all but one email accounts with various suppliers I have used over the last 20 years or so, Yahoo, BT, etc

Most I download to Thunderbird

(not aimed at you Chris by the way but to the OP)

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 11/04/2020 13:08, Chris Jones via groups.io wrote:
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:51 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
I would have thought the simple solution to that is don't use Yahoo ?
On the face of it that would be the sensible thing to do, but it would seem (anecdotally anyway) that many or even most mail providers have their own way of making life difficult for their *paying* customers.
Or perhaps I am just over - sensitive to this possibility, having suffered from it in the last week.
Chris
 

Why this happens (all the [censored] time!)

A copy-and-paste from (There are other places on the internet that explain this recurring problem. This explanation was chosen at random from a selection of good choices).?

Issue: IP Addresses From Gmail, Yahoo, Etc. Are Getting Blocked

The Problem:?Spam filters appear to be blocking mail being sent from gmail, Yahoo Mail, Outlook.com, etc. ?The error message sent back to the sender usually says something like this:?
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Why This Is Happening:?Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook.com, etc. offer free email accounts to the public. ?This is a magnet for spammers. ?They sign up for free accounts or they hack into existing ones and then use those accounts to send spam.?When this happens the sending mail servers usually get blacklisted. ?This is because the specific mail server at Google, Yahoo, etc. is sending out so much spam that it gets noticed by one of the major internet blacklisting services and ends up on their published list of bad senders. Lots of companies check these blacklists (including us) and restrict mail accordingly.?
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You have done nothing to cause this, and neither has the person who sent the message (usually). ?The sender simply had the unfortunate luck to have that particular message routed through a mail server that has been blacklisted.
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Solutions:
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Not all mail from Gmail, Yahoo, etc. is getting blocked, only mail passing through servers that are blacklisted. ?Google, Yahoo, etc. use hundreds of mail servers, and at any given time the vast majority are clean. ?When you send mail from Gmail/Yahoo/etc. you don't usually use the same outgoing mail server for every message. ?Your message could be routed through one of many many mail servers.
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That said, there are two options to consider if you are experiencing this issue:
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Do nothing. ?These issues usually resolve themselves quickly. ?The folks at Google/Yahoo/etc. usually find the problem in a timely manner and work with the blacklisting organizations to have their IP addresses removed as soon as possible.
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Whitelist the sending IP address in your spam account. ?If you absolutely need all email from the blacklisted IP address to pass through the spam filter, you might have the ability to whitelist the specific sending IP address. ?Be advised though that this should be a temporary measure because basically you would be allowing all mail from a known spam source to pass through the spam filter and into your inbox. (Whitelisting the sender's domain name or email address would not work in this case because the IP reputation check takes precedence over domain-level or account-level whitelisting.)
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Note: ?Keep in mind you are doing nothing wrong. ?You shouldn't have to change your policies and put your mail server at risk just to accommodate a system that allows spammers. ?This isn't really your problem, it's the mail provider's problem. ?They should work to fix it, and you shouldn't have to accommodate them.
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Note to Senders Getting Blocked: ?This issue is not technically your fault (usually). ?You're just using a service where this is bound to happen. ?Free email services are a magnet for spammers and if you share a service with millions of other users, bad things can and do happen. ?A long-term solution to this problem would be to get your own domain and host your email with a reputable provider. This option is not free but it is much more reliable.
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