Hi All,

The title pretty well says it all. I've been meaning to ask for awhile but my brain appears to be leaking cells. I have several members from our Yahoo transfer that have been in hard bounce for almost 2 years. I've checked many of them via my email and get the same bounce, so their emails must have been expired by Yahoo. Is it possible that they could still log into the group and read the emails?

I know that what I'm asking is not real probable yet I'm planning on deleting them & wonder if I'm going to get any emails?
Paul, Ohio, USA
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I am not sure if?hard bouncing members can log in. However, if they have been bouncing for almost 2 years, I take it that they are no longer interested.? People lose interest, move on with their lifes.? And sadly some pass away and we never get to hear about it. ? I had somebody quite angrily email me yesterday after I sent?out a message by "special notice" in one of my groups.? She kind of accused me of stealing her address and using it...? I could?provide proof that she wanted to become a member of my group almost 7 years ago.? The reply was then that she had tried to unsubscribe many times in recent years.? I explained to hear that?this was and is indeed a problem with yahoo groups, but this group was moved to?Groups.io almost 2 years ago?and there were a few ?"special notices"?since (I do not allow "no mail" in my groups) and unsubscribed her. ? Barbara ?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 03:09 PM, Paul Ohio USA wrote:

Is it possible that they could still log into the group and read the emails?

The answer is (I think!) a definite maybe. If they have set up a proper login with a Password then I can see no reason why they should not be able to log in. If, however, they do not have a password set and used to rely on requesting a login link from Groups.io then it looks highly unlikely that they could log in because their email address is bouncing so by definition they will not receive the email containing the log in link from Groups.io.

On 2 or 3 occasions I have purged the group I moderate of hard bouncing members, and I always check the individual "bouncers" activity history to see if there is any sign of recent activity, which there invariably isn't. That process is of course rather tedious but it is the product of trying to be fair to the entire membership and not being too precipitate in deleting anyone.

It might be worth posting a warning on you group that a weeding process is planned so that anyone who is bouncing but reading by logging in gets tipped off so that they can do something about it.

Chris

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 06:34 PM, Paul Ohio USA wrote:

Most of the bounces are from when we moved from Yahoo. Yahoo wasn't showing bouncing yahoo mail members. I've wondered if that was to boost the number of users when they were sold.

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I'm going to take Chris's advice and work my way through the group and get rid of the bad emails.

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Paul, I hope you saw this earlier today -?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/28197

Frances
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Paul,

I've checked many of them via my email and get the same bounce, so
their emails must have been expired by Yahoo. Is it possible that they
could still log into the group and read the emails?

No, not with that email address.

Chris is right, a dead email address means that they can't use the "Email me a link to log in" feature, so they'd need to log in using a password.

However, with a dead email address there is no way to set a password. So it would only be someone whose email address went dead /after/ they had set a password that could still log in. From your description that would be none of these addresses transferred from Yahoo.

That said, those same individuals might have signed up for your Yahoo Group (or later, your Groups.io group) under a working email address. But that's ok, removing their dead address from your group does them no harm.

Shal


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