Candidate members [ideas for a better mechanism]
I am looking a way to oblige candidate members to fill up and answer few questions before coming new members. Do you have a trick to do?.Groups.io currently does not have a satisfactory and intuitive way to handle 'candidate members' who apply to join a Restricted Group which requires the applicant to answer questions before they are considered for approval. Awkward workarounds have been contrived, but all suffer from having the 'cart before the horse'. There is a "Pending Subscription" Member Notice feature, but it really only sends additional information to the applicant. My Groups do use it to send questions that are asked to be responded to, with the Subject changed to: Additional Information Require to Join <Group Name>. Some Groups do use it to send a link a off-Groups.io form and ask that it be filled out, e.g. a Google form, however we ought to be able to vet applicants within Groups.io (rather than promote Google or some other entity)... Unfortunately, there is no automated feature that delays starting the 14 day application expiration clock and instead sends a "Subscription Application Made" notice to the GroupOwner; and when the applicant replies to the "Pending Subscription" Member Notice, then the 14 clock would start and the "Subscription Approval Needed" notice be sent to the GroupOwner. Most applicants new to Groups.io (that I have asked) seem to believe that since they replied to the Groups.io Account Confirmation email, that there is no need to also respond to a Pending Subscription notice and their application expires after 14 days unless a Moderator (with Member Approval permission) or an Owner has claimed their subscription request. The result is frustration for the applicant and the Group. It would also help if the Groups.io Account Confirmation email fully detailed: 1) a Reply to Groups.io Account Confirmation email only confirms that they are able to receive emails from Groups.io 2) It should also explain about 'being removed for marking Groups.io emails as SPAM' and the restoration process 3) that Restricted Groups also require approval from that Group's Owner or Moderator. 4) (if there is an active "Pending Subscription" Member Notice) that another email entitled <"Pending Subscription" Member Notice' Subject> will give further instructions. A better 'Question Applicants to Restricted Groups for Approval' process has been requested before. My hope is that will happen in 2020, now that the YahooGroups Mass Migration is over. [Subject enhanced by moderator to start new topic] |
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On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 04:41 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
My hope is that will happen in 2020, now that the YahooGroups Mass Migration is over.You do realize that unless you post this on the beta group (or canny), it won't be seen by site management?? We can agree, discuss, cuss, etc., but Mark makes the decisions. Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Help: /static/help Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Duane,
On Jan 4, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:Of course. I was responding to what was posted here, by I presume someone who hasn't seen this suggested / discussed before. I have posted about this before, but the way I suggested it had some people reacting as if they would lose something if it was instituted. That certainly wasn't my intent, but some of the name changes I suggested along with it to existing features to be more IMO accurate and intuitive, it seemed to come across as 'change is a threat'... So along with waiting till after the YahooGroups Migration and Mark's not over yet vacation, I've been respecting the suspension of feature suggestions on beta, plus now that Canny may have made beta second class... I will suggest it again on beta, although I believe a "Absentee Owner Succession" feature perhaps should have a greater priority. |
Michael Pavan
Duane