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When moving members from Yahoo Groups, we had banned a guy from the group that was well known for bad behaviour.? His aliases were also known. Though we have a restricted group, it would be nice to be able to categorize known bad players using their email address.

For clarity, an invitation is only extended to a non-member by specification of an email address and a comment field (display name).

I recommend an extension to the current invitation capability to include a new parameter that defines the "type" of invitation. The default would be "type"='new member'. Other options would include type='reject', type='moderated', and type='ban'.? As in night clubs, if a non-member attempts to enter a club they are extended an invitation to enter (default), or extended an invitation to leave (rejected but where the user can make their case for entry), or banned (rejected with prejustice which is permanent), or possibly enter but we're keeping our &#*! eye on you (moderated). Also an invited non-member name could be generalized using a regular expressions (regex, the best option) or a string that contains wild cards (globs).? This would allow you to accept/reject based on a domain name, or other system generated keys like? ?so_and_so+invite_67@...

groups.io already has the ability to moderate an existing member, but that would not apply to non-members so that should not generate a conflict.

If these features are implemented, the name could be changed from invitations to non-member invitations or maybe just non-member administration to reduce user confusion?

Comments?

--Cue

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On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 03:26 PM, Michael L. Stokes wrote:

I recommend an extension to the current invitation capability to include a new parameter that defines the "type" of invitation.

Michael -- Much of this functionality already exists.?

The default would be "type"='new member'.

Yes, you invite someone because you want them to join. Otherwise, it's not really an invitation, but something else.

Other options would include type='reject', type='moderated', and type='ban'.?

It is already possible to ban someone outright. Just go to?/g/GROUPNAME/members?p=,banned?and enter their email address. That address will then show up in the Banned list.

I don't get the "reject" thing here. If you're going to reject someone, don't invite them. That said, there is a Past members display for Premium groups. Perhaps you would like a way to manually enter email addresses into that (as you can for banned)?

"Moderate" might have limited utility, if you've predetermined that you want this invitee to continue to be moderated beyond the New Users Moderated value already set up for Spam Control. But a moderated member is still a member. It's not really a different category, just a flag set in their member record.

Note that it is possible to allow non-members to post to your group (Admin>Settings>Message Policies). Such messages are always moderated.

I get it that you want some way to manage email addresses that aren't currently subscribed to the group. I'm just not sure it should be integrated with the invitation system. Hopefully the above will help you accomplish some of your objectives.

Regards,
Bruce

You can already BAN members and non-members
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Bob Bellizzi