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Can't turn off "new users moderated"


 

Hi all,

For some reason, on one of my groups, the "New users moderated" setting is on and won't let me turn it off. When I click the checkbox, the check doesn't go away.

Any advice?

Thanks!
-Joan


 

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 08:22 AM, Joan Leib wrote:
For some reason, on one of my groups, the "New users moderated" setting is on and won't let me turn it off. When I click the checkbox, the check doesn't go away.
From the wiki:
Note: although there are many rules, the default for (almost) all of them is not to cause a message to be moderated ¡ª a group admin must enable each rule before it applies to any messages.
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An exception is New Users Moderated, which is the default Spam Control setting when a group is created. Another exception occurs for group members copied in by the Easy Yahoo Group Transfer feature: those members are initially given the Posting Privilege they had in the Yahoo Group.

You can reduce the required spam control moderation to 1 post in Admin, Settings, Spam Control. Be sure to scroll down and Update Group to make any changes stick.

And this from the wiki page:

How do I know who is specifically moderated?
In the members list there may be badges after the display of each member's email address; some badges relate to moderation and when present these indicate that the member has an override to the group's Moderated checkbox. See Status Badges in the Members List for a list of the badges. In a new group the NuM (New User Moderated) is the only moderation badge that is likely to appear, all of the rest must be manually assigned to the member by a group owner or moderator.
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Note: particularly long email addresses my cause badges to be hidden by the next column (Delivery). in such cases you may need to widen the display window, or zoom out, to make the badges visible.
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Each member's Posting Privilege setting may override the group's Moderated checkbox. See the Member Controls and Group Controls sections below for more detail.
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See more:?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-Moderation
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On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 08:22 AM, Joan Leib wrote:
For some reason, on one of my groups, the "New users moderated" setting is on and won't let me turn it off. When I click the checkbox, the check doesn't go away.

Spam Control -
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You must choose from among these four options. At least one of these options must be set as a spam-control measure.
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Restricted Membership - Moderators must approve any new subscribers.
Announcement Group - Only Owners and Moderators are allowed to post.
Moderated - ALL messages are held pending moderator approval before being sent to the group.
New Users Moderated - Messages from new subscribers are held pending moderator approval. After the set number of consecutive messages are approved, the subscriber is automatically unmoderated.
If you choose Restricted only, you do not need to moderate ANY messages, if you wish. But you will have to approve new subscribers. There is no Spam Control setting that will allow a new subscriber to join your group without approval and immediately post an unmoderated message.

See this link about unmoderating everybody.

/g/GroupManagersForum/message/18347

Frances

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Okay. So this is a difference between a group that was transferred from Yahoo and one that wasn't. Re the spam settings, I sent out a lot of invites - if the "new members require approval" setting is on, does that apply to members who join via invite?
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Thanks for clearing that up and sorry for not RTFMing thoroughly enough.?
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Joan

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 8:48 AM Frances <frances@...> wrote:

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 08:22 AM, Joan Leib wrote:
For some reason, on one of my groups, the "New users moderated" setting is on and won't let me turn it off. When I click the checkbox, the check doesn't go away.

Spam Control -
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You must choose from among these four options. At least one of these options must be set as a spam-control measure.
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Restricted Membership - Moderators must approve any new subscribers.
Announcement Group - Only Owners and Moderators are allowed to post.
Moderated - ALL messages are held pending moderator approval before being sent to the group.
New Users Moderated - Messages from new subscribers are held pending moderator approval. After the set number of consecutive messages are approved, the subscriber is automatically unmoderated.
If you choose Restricted only, you do not need to moderate ANY messages, if you wish. But you will have to approve new subscribers. There is no Spam Control setting that will allow a new subscriber to join your group without approval and immediately post an unmoderated message.

See this link about unmoderating everybody.

/g/GroupManagersForum/message/18347

Frances


 

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 08:21 AM, Joan Leib wrote:
if the "new members require approval" setting is on, does that apply to members who join via invite?
No, an invitation assumes that you've already vetted the member, so no moderation occurs.

Duane
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On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 09:21 AM, Joan Leib wrote:
Okay. So this is a difference between a group that was transferred from Yahoo and one that wasn't. Re the spam settings, I sent out a lot of invites - if the "new members require approval" setting is on, does that apply to members who join via invite?
I am quite sure that members who join via invite are controlled by new members are moderated if it is checked. If your group is restricted, you don't have to have that box checked. Be sure to save any changes. The Update Group button is a long way down on that page!

Invites are dealt with differently in one way - if you have a pending subscription notice that is active to vet new members, those that you invite don't receive that notice. It is assumed that you have pre-approved them as the right fit for your group.

Frances


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Joan,

So this is a difference between a group that was transferred from
Yahoo and one that wasn't.
New Users Moderated is the default for any new Groups.io group.

There is a difference in the members, however. The members copied from a Yahoo Group retain the Posting Privilege they had in the Yahoo Group, whereas the members who join the Groups.io group by other means are initially set to a Posting Privilege controlled by the New Users Moderated checkbox.

if the "new members require approval" setting is on, does that
apply to members who join via invite?
As Duane said, the invitation constitutes approval to join the group.

Shal


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