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You have to do that from within the topic, at a certain message within the topic to specify where to split it. Go to the bottom of any message, click on "More," and select "Split."
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J

On 13 Oct 2017 at 15:06, J_Catlady wrote:

Go to the bottom of any message, click on "More," and select "Split."

Thanks! It seems like you shoul dbe able to split the latest message from
the rest, but I guess you can't.

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Jim
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<< 'Drop the guy with the devil ears.' -- NBC, June, 1965. >>

Jim,

But I can't even find the Split Topic feature anymore, just Moderate,
Lock, Merge, or Edit Subject.

Perhaps the Wiki will help:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Split-Threads
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-To-Merge-Threads

I realize that this will only change the archives, and email users
will still have the wrong subject.

True.

And when members reply to that message (any message that had already been sent with the old subject but is now in the new topic) their reply may not thread to the new topic. That's something that's been discussed in beta@ but I don't know if Mark has done any work lately to address this problem.

So if the new topic is active you may have to lather, rinse, repeat a few times until people are only replying to messages sent in the new topic.

Shal

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 03:31 pm, Jim Poston wrote:

It seems like you shoul dbe able to split the latest message from
the rest, but I guess you can't.

Yes, you can. You just can't split the original (first) message from the rest.
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J

Jim,

It seems like you shoul dbe able to split the latest message from
the rest, but I guess you can't.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

I think you've identified a bug!

You can't split the first message of a topic (which is what your second screen shot looks like). Make sure you're using the More menu under the second or later message - the message you want to become the first in the new topic.

Here's the bug:

Make sure you have _the date sort ascending_. You should see "Previous Topic" and "Next Topic" buttons below that last message. If you've got the date sort reversed in your current view the Split menu item isn't where it should be (and is where it shouldn't).

I'm a little afraid to learn what happens if, in that circumstance, you _do_ split the first message of the topic. Maybe the whole thread gets a new topic, maybe the server crashes for following a null pointer.

This one I cc to support.

Shal

Shal,

I just tested it. The whole thread gets a new title, no system crash. :)

Definitely a bug, since (a) in this sort order it doesn't let you split off the last message (as Jim noted), and (b) this "feature" (renaming via "splitting" the first message) is not available in the other sort order.?
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J

Here's what I reported to support on June 9 (request 3360):
"I've noticed a glitch when trying to split a message to a new thread. I normally sort with newest first and it won't allow me to split the top (last) post. It looks like it would allow me to split the last on a page (Split is in the More menu), but that would be the first in the topic which wouldn't make any sense. I suspect that the first item on the page can't be split instead of the first item in the topic. It was probably set up that way before reverse sort was available."

I haven't received a reply on it yet, so it's down the priority list someplace.

Duane

Duane,

"I've noticed a glitch when trying to split a message to a new
thread. I normally sort with newest first and it won't allow me to
split the top (last) post.

I was wondering whether it had been noticed and maybe ignored by others.

I haven't received a reply on it yet, so it's down the priority list
someplace.

Only the automated acknowledgment, or not even that?

Either way, maybe another report will give it a "bump".

Shal

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 05:54 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

Only the automated acknowledgment, or not even that?

Only the automated. That's how I got the request number.

Duane

Hello chaps,
I'm fairly new to Groups.io (I came from Yahoo Groups). I have various questions...

* Is there a general user guide or FAQ anywhere?

* Can you set messages to avoid the grouping and the need to use the Split?
I can see that it would be useful sometimes but I generally don't need it

Thanks

??? Steve

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 05:10 AM, Steve Crook wrote:

* Is there a general user guide or FAQ anywhere?

* Can you set messages to avoid the grouping and the need to use the Split?
I can see that it would be useful sometimes but I generally don't need it

There are a few places to find information as noted in my signature below.? The Wiki here on GMF is public, so you could refer users to it if needed.

The grouping/threading of posts is automatic and can not be turned off.? Once others learn how the group works, splitting usually isn't needed very much.

Duane
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Help: /static/help
GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
Search button at the top of Messages list
A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions

Thanks Duane,
I'll plough through those wiki pages

??? Steve