Owner died - how can I transfer yahoo-group without being able to add a new moderator? #owner #transfer
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 01:46 PM, Andrea wrote:
Does anyone know if there is the possibility to migrate the whole group from yahoo to IO nevertheless?You can only use the Easy Yahoo Transfer if someone can send invitations and promote members to moderator. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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M K Ramadoss wrote PG4? Offline is the only solution. Hurry up and get everything downloaded before Yahoo falls apart. Already intermittent problems reported. But Andrea asked for a transfer to Groups.io. Right now there is no path from a PG4 download to Groups.io. Wilson Logan is working on a way to upload the PG4 information, but it's not quite ready for prime time. Best to get the PG4 download completed and wait until it's ready. That's my plan. Larry |
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Well, you can't, at this point, have them as a message archive as you would if you were transferred.
See this from the FAQ on transferring -? 10. What are my alternatives to paying for the Premium Yearly plan?
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(a) Moving members yourself:
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You can Upgrade your group to the Premium for one month plan ($20 USD) in order to upload a list of members (Direct Add). However everything else would need to be copied manually.
Details:
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On the Basic plan (free) you can upload a list of members to the Invite page. Similar to a Yahoo Group, it sends an invitation to each email address and the invitee must receive and respond to the invitation before they are added to the Members list.
To obtain a list of your Yahoo Group members you can go to the Manage Members page and in the Actions menu Export (download) a csv or tsv format file. It is best to open the file in a spreadsheet like Excel, then you can easily copy the Email column to paste into the Direct Add or Invite page. Note: this is only for groups with 1000 or fewer members, due to Yahoo's Export restriction.
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Send a message to your YahooGroups members on YahooGroups inviting them to join your new home. Include the URL. Or tell them to send a blank email to the Subscribe email address found at the bottom of your group's home page (that is, [GROUPNAME][email protected] ?substituting the real group name for GROUPNAME). Since you won't be using a G.io invitation, you may have trouble tracking members who don't respond.?
(b) Moving message archive, photos, etc. yourself:
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You can download content from Yahoo - see /g/GroupManagersForum/message/19430?
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There are a few third-party solutions to do that, including PG OFFLINE, and a
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The problem is what to do with the message archive once downloaded; as there is really no good way to re-upload it to groups.io, to re-link individual messages to their owners, or to provide online message search capability. ?It's not the same as a transfer and loses "ownership", but Lena has a way to get the messages into the archive, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251?
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An option is simply to print the collection of old messages to a PDF file; at which point you can upload that to the files area of your group. That will give you something, even if it isn't conveniently indexed and searchable.
Currently ?(Nov 2019), the only way to have the correct ownership for files is to have the owner upload it.
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(c) Photos and files:
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You'd need to move them manually if you're not paying for a transfer. ?It can be time consuming and "ownership" of all the items will be in your name. ?If the person that originally uploaded a picture is on the new group, you can manually assign ownership to them (if you know who it was.) ?There's currently not a similar function for Files.
-- Frances FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
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Andrea,
Our group has a similar issue.? Since 2009 nobody has heard from the YG owner.? Even the moderator who was left had limited abilities to do anything.? AND, YG would not move the ownership over to the moderator.? Our only option then was to use PGOffline to pull all the data, photos and messages from our YG location.? This saves it to your PC hard drive.? One can then re-upload all of the content files and photos with ease. At this moment in time, it's unknown how to upload the messages in PGOffline to Groups.io.? I did hear the 4 person team who wrote PGOffline may have a solution in the future.? BUT, our group actually to the direction to SAVE the message data to an HTML file, then a CSV file and a .ods file and finally an extended Excel file for Office 2013+ as .xlsx? I've then taken that message file of over 31,000+ messages and upload those formats to the FILE section.? Folks can download it, browse it, search it with ease, print sections etc....? It's faster that way.? So, our group has saved EVERYTHING as members as the owner is AWOL and the moderator is now up in his senior retired years.? We started from the 1980s on Prodigy then moved to GeoCities, then to Yahoo Groups and now Groups.io.? We are the 2nd largest tractor group on the YG site.? Much of us are homestead farmers. lol? what do we know about computers.? haha ? |
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On 14 Nov 2019 22:09, Andrea wrote:
OK - I fear we have to do the PG4 download. But - yes, what to do with it afterwards?PG4 can only download the mails in its own format. PG4 is actually a message viewer, and the idea is that anyone who wants to read the mails should download the free version of PG4 and read the mails inside PG4. This is not very convenient, if you ask me. One nice feature of PG4 is its ability to export messages as HTML. But it can't export messages in a format that most e-mail programs can read. If you have a geek friend, I can recommend IgnoredAmbience's python scripts wholeheartedly: Samuel |
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Bret wrote: I've then taken that message file of over 31,000+ messages and upload those formats to the FILE section.? Folks can download it, browse it, search it with ease, print sections etc....? It's faster that way.? Not the Yahoo files section, I hope! That's going away. You need to put them someplace like Google Drive, Dropbox, OneDrive or similar. By the way, for Andrea's benefit, this is what the PGO HTML (web page) looks like: What I had proposed in a prior post was to add a Search box and links at the top for previous page, next page, and home page. Clicking each message number opens the link in your web browser. Larry |
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Frances wrote: ? You can download content from Yahoo - see?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19430? There are a few third-party solutions to do that, including PG OFFLINE, and a? ? The problem is what to do with the message archive once downloaded; as there is really no good way to re-upload it to groups.io, to re-link individual messages to their owners, or to provide online message search capability. ?It's not the same as a transfer and loses "ownership", but Lena has a way to get the messages into the archive,?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251? One possibility was to use the PG OFFLINE feature to convert messages to HTML. My third-choice solution was to do as follows. It's fairly simple if you can write raw HTML.
This means that your Yahoo messages are in an archive, distinct from the ongoing messages. I wanted all the messages in a single, searchable place which is why this solution ranked third on my list of choices. Larry |
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 01:46 PM, Andrea wrote:
just recently the owner of our yahoo-group died, so now we are three moderators left, and none of us has the right to add a new member as moderatorYou might be able to contact the family of the group owner for assistance.? It would be awkward, but they might be able give you the login information for his/her account on YG. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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