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On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Suzanne H <capeislandbedlingtons@...> wrote:

1) for the first bullet point above, how do I specify for GIO NOT to send a notice to every member?

Just FYI, some of my group members had were upset by the move — totally disconcerting. I had warned them and explained the why but when it happened it was like I was surreptitiously sending all messages to the CIA. That message was important because it did get their attention.

It was also a chance to clean the list because about 300 of 3,000+ members unsubscribed. I did a random check and they were either bouncing or had moved and never bothered to unsubscribe.

Sharon
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 03:00 PM, M K Ramadoss wrote:

In one of the groups we moved to GIO, there were many who had chosen 'no email' in YG. We decided not to provide the option.

If someone is "no mail" in YG and you have opted to disallow that in Groups.io, they are transferred as Special Notices only.

Just an FYI.

Frances
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 02:01 PM, Suzanne H wrote:

I understand from an email I received that if some messages or content is not transferred that will be noted in the email confirming the transfer is complete.? I'd like to be able to look at that info before I have the welcome message sent.

The FAQ says:

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 02:01 PM, Suzanne H wrote:

So my questions are:?

1) for the first bullet?point above, how do I specify for GIO NOT to send a notice to every member?

Suzanne -- There is a checkbox for this on the transfer setup page (where you decide what areas of the group to transfer).

2) If the Welcome message is not active at the time of the transfer, does that mean it will not be sent??

Such is my understanding, although others have recently reported that it isn't sent anyway (ref:?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/40205879#23064).

And if so, then how is it best to send a welcome message when I am ready?

You can send any existing notice to any collection of members by clicking the checkboxes in the Member List and selecting Send Message from the Actions menu. There is a pull-down menu on the subsequent page where you can select the Member Notice that you want to send.

But I really think it's a whole lot simpler -- and are more likely to induce others to follow suit -- if you take whatever parts of the transfer summary that you want to share and whatever else you want to say and just post it to the group as a Special Notice.?

Suzanne, I do suggest you give careful consideration to Sharon's response. If it were me, I'd just be up-front about telling everyone what's going on, and also go ahead and let the groups.io notification be sent. There are plenty of subscribers who manage to get paranoid on their own without the group Owner becoming all secretive and giving them a reason to be.

Regards,
Bruce

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 05:49 PM, Suzanne H wrote:

How do I get to the transfer set up page you mention if I have already requested the transfer but I'm still in the queue.? Can I change anything at this point?

Suzanne -- It appears that you've already given the go-ahead to transfer and are counting down your place in the upload queue. That being so, it's too late to change the entries in the checkboxes. If you want to make any changes now you will have to contact support ([email protected]).?

The folks on the yahoo list know the group is being transferred and have been supportive.? The reason I want to postpone the welcome email is that I got the message below from in an email after I initiated the transfer request.? If there is anything I have to do manually or try to figure out how to clean up, I was hoping to do that before the welcome message was sent.

While that's fine, it's also rather unlikely.?

To be clear, the checkbox refers to the transfer completion notification, not the welcome notice. As for the latter, I'm not longer certain it would be sent in any event.

I think I've read about some folks who have had to request the transfer be done a second time to get satisfactory results - or have I misunderstood this?

This was more common in the past, but there haven't been many recent reports to that effect. Most of the discussions of "missing content" in the past three weeks have been from those who simply needed to wait for the message indexing to catch up, or who read the number of topics on the group home page and mistook that for the number of messages. And if a few files or photos are left behind, it's usually easier to move the stragglers manually (if you can get to them at all) than it is to request a new transfer.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 06:06 PM, Suzanne H wrote:

I was looking for the transfer set up page that Bruce spoke of and found?/edittransfer?start=1? I don't see any option to opt out of having a notice sent to everyone upon transfer.

Suzanne -- You have to click the green "Start Group Transfer Process" button. Once you actually have a transfer initiated and are at the "invite the transfer agent" step, at that point the screen will refresh and you'll see the extra opt-out checkbox.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups#Step-2-E28094-Set-Up-and-Start-the-Transfer-Process?for screenshots.

Bruce

I'm probably in that silent majority. I recently completed the transfer of a group with over 20 years of history. We'd had to migrate within Yahoogroups twice because were approaching the archive limit. All three groups, plus a couple of smaller ancillary groups, transferred with very few issues. Of my 800+ current subscribers, only three had some kind of database error, according to the report email, and needed to be added manually. The report indicated a problem with the databases, but as far as I can see they're intact. The only thing that didn't come over properly were the links, but since most of them have been dead for five years or more, that wasn't a problem!

I did notice that not all of the messages showed up in our archives immediately. The topic count grew over the course of a couple of days, and it now looks more or less correct. At least, I haven't seen any obvious holes in the history.

As for paranoia, anyone whose membership is pitching a fit over the move might want to state up front that Groups.io's privacy policy is [i]much[/i] friendlier than Yahoo's, and since Groups isn't advertiser-driven, it's more likely to remain that way.?
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 01:45 PM, Suzanne H wrote:

I already did that and at the step 3 of 4 with only 90 groups ahead of me.? I don't see a way to uncheck that box at this point.? Is there one?

No. As I said previously, you have to contact support to make such changes after you're already queued up for import.

Bruce