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Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?

 

My YahooGroups -> Groups.io transfer completed today (woooo!)? See below for the progress I experienced.

The YahooGroups appeared to have 13207 messages in it at the time of export.? But the Groups.io import only has 13074 messages in it, leaving behind a mysterious 133 messages.

Is there any way to identify what messages got missed, and why?

Thanks.


I think my export from Yahoo happened overnight (Sat26 into Sunday27).

10/27: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 527 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
10/28: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 506 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
10/29: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 487 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
10/30: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 462 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
10/31: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 433 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
11/01: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 423 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]

11/05 (early): Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 302 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Stage 3 of 4]
11/05 (late): Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about?218?groups ahead of it in the queue. [Stage 3 of 4]
11/07 (early): Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 2 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Stage 3 of 4]
 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:07 PM, Ron wrote:
The YahooGroups appeared to have 13207 messages in it at the time of export.? But the Groups.io import only has 13074 messages in it, leaving behind a mysterious 133 messages.

Is there any way to identify what messages got missed, and why?
Ron -- How did you determine the "expected number?"

You cannot count on the message number of the highest message to be the same as the total messages present. I suspect these 133 messages were deleted from your Yahoo group before the export ever occurred.?

Regards,
Bruce
 

In YahooGroups (web interface), the URL of each message ends with the number of that message, and that number is incremental starting with "1" back at the beginning of the group and its first post.
In Groups.io, the upper right corner of the web interface says "1 - 20 of 13074"
That is where I am getting my numbers from.

Over the 20 years my group has been in existence, it's possible some messages have been deleted.? But 133 seems high.? I am the only one allowed to post, and I am the only owner/moderator.? If any had been deleted, I'd guess less than a dozen, not over 100!

Is there a way to export Groups.io messages in mbox format so I could 'diff' it against the YahooGroups mbox export and identify the oddities that way?
 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:38 PM, Ron wrote:
Is there a way to export Groups.io messages in mbox format so I could 'diff' it against the YahooGroups mbox export and identify the oddities that way?
Yes. In Admin>Settings, click the "Export Group Data" button at the top of the page.

Bruce
 

Ron,

You can also compare the Message History grid on your groups.io ¡°Home¡± page for your group with the equivalent on the Yahoo site. It¡¯s a bit tedious, but you should be able to determine which months have discrepencies. I did this for my group (11 years, 1300 messages) and found the discrepencies. All were spam that was removed, duplicates, or mismatches in Date sent versus Date received which caused them to appear in a different month.

Although, it¡¯s odd since you¡¯re the only poster, but you should be able to figure it out.

Gilbert

On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:15 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:38 PM, Ron wrote:
Is there a way to export Groups.io messages in mbox format so I could 'diff' it against the YahooGroups mbox export and identify the oddities that way?
Yes. In Admin>Settings, click the "Export Group Data" button at the top of the page.

Bruce
 

Great idea comparing the Message History grid.? Many of the discrepancies are matched up in end-of-month mismatches, but several don't.? But bottom line, nothing adds up to 133 missing messages.? It's actually less than 10.

Maybe it has something to do with threads/topics?

In fact, if I switch from Topic view to Message view, the Groups.io count jumps to 13204, which is close enough to the YahooGroups count of 13207 for me.? Thanks for the idea!

Mon Yr???? YG?? Gio
Jan 2001? 29?? 31

Jan 2006? 55?? 56

Feb 2007? 78?? 77

Mar 2007? 96?? 95

Dec 2007? 77?? 74
Jan 2008? 50?? 53

Nov 2009? 45?? 46
Dec 2009? 43?? 42

Oct 2011? 74?? 75
Nov 2011? 90?? 89

Jun 2012? 88?? 87

Oct 2015? 74?? 75
Nov 2015? 45?? 44

Feb 2017? 43?? 44
Mar 2017? 40?? 39

May 2017? 28?? 29
Jun 2017? 61?? 60

Oct 2017? 34?? 35

Jun 2018? 39?? 40
Jul 2018? 30?? 29

Dec 2018? 33?? 34
Jan 2019? 64?? 63

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