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Yahoo Groups death knell?


 

An owner of a Yahoo Group that I'm a member of recently posted this as notice of his intent to migrate to groups.io:



Summarizing, Y!G seems to be converting entirely to a mailing list service, eliminating their online resources (file/photo storage, polls, calendaring, etc). Even the message archives will be eliminated.

If legitimate, I expect a lot of folks will be wanting to transfer soon.

FYI,
Bruce
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On 16 Oct 2019, at 12:40, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

?An owner of a Yahoo Group that I'm a member of recently posted this as notice of his intent to migrate to groups.io:



Summarizing, Y!G seems to be converting entirely to a mailing list service, eliminating their online resources (file/photo storage, polls, calendaring, etc). Even the message archives will be eliminated.

If legitimate, I expect a lot of folks will be wanting to transfer soon.

FYI,
Bruce
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The system Help is your friend.??/static/help


 

And of course, typical Yahoo, the announcement on the top of groups pages includes a "learn more" link which is a broken link.

I have a migration question- when we migrate a yahoo group, does it automatically send groups.io invites to all members? We are testing, want to migrate all the message archives and save the member list but not invite the members yet; we we don't want to do that once we see everything is set up the way we want.

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On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:36 AM, Walter S. Arnold wrote:
I have a migration question- when we migrate a yahoo group, does it automatically send groups.io invites to all members?
When you click on Set Up New Transfer, you'll find a series of checkboxes. If you UNcheck the Transfer Members box, you can delay migrating the members.?

There are no invitations involved in the transfer process...if their accounts are not in Bouncing status in Y!G, they are automatically subscribed/shanghaied (and sent a notice allowing them to opt out). If you want invitations sent out instead, simply upload a flat text file, one email address per line, to send the invitations later (i.e.: outside of the transfer process).

Important Note:? Ownership of files, photos and other group content cannot be assigned to someone who doesn't have a groups.io account. So if you migrate the content without the members, they will lose "ownership" of it, and it will all be reassigned to the group owner. Depending on the situation in your group, this may or may not be objectionable; but generally speaking I don't recommend it.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


 

Thank you for the clear explanation. I found I could download the entire member list from the Yahoo group in .csv format, so I have that saved.

In our case the files and photos belong to the group, so that isn't an issue; but we have the white boxes/empty place holders, and for the past two days haven't been able to see and of those.


 

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:08 AM, Walter S. Arnold wrote:
In our case the files and photos belong to the group, so that isn't an issue; but we have the white boxes/empty place holders, and for the past two days haven't been able to see any of those.
Walter -- Yep. Unfortunately, access to Yahoo servers is something that is not within groups.io's control. If you can't see it using Yahoo's own web interface, odds are the transfer agent won't be able to, either. For what it's worth, it seems to affect only files and/or photos...the message archive is usually accessible.

The best time to initiate a transfer is when Yahoo is performing well. Transferring a group costs a one-time payment of $110 (i.e.: one year of Premium access). If you're willing to roll the dice and pay up front, I'd go ahead and get things set up, get the agent invited to your Yahoo group, and then click the "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button as soon as you notice that Yahoo has gotten their act together.

In the past, Yahoo has usually fixed their problems eventually; but given the recent notice who knows if they will do so this time around.

Good luck,
Bruce


 

If you pay for a premium group for one year you can move everything over and current members are set up as part of the group. I believe they only have to accept being in the new group when they get the notification email.?

You don't have to pay for it if you just start a new group. With a tool found online you can retrieve the membership list and grab emails to send out invitations. You can also instead just make an announcement in the old group about the move.?

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On October 16, 2019 10:24:56 AM "Walter S. Arnold" <walter@...> wrote:

And of course, typical Yahoo, the announcement on the top of groups pages includes a "learn more" link which is a broken link.

I have a migration question- when we migrate a yahoo group, does it automatically send groups.io invites to all members? We are testing, want to migrate all the message archives and save the member list but not invite the members yet; we we don't want to do that once we see everything is set up the way we want.

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