Hi all,

This week's change log:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

• NEW: Topics can have a reply to setting that overrides the group's reply to (and any associated hash tags).
• NEW: Replaced the Reply To Sender Only checkbox on hashtags with a dropdown, allowing you to override the group's reply to setting.
• NEW: When a subscriber is viewing a member's profile, display the Email button to send them an email.
• CHANGE: You can now like messages in topics that are closed (matches email behavior now)
• BUGFIX: Crash fix for database map view when geocoding cannot find a proper lat/long for an address.
• BUGFIX: Crash fix when exporting event responses.
• INTERNAL: Updated logrus logging package and fixed the logging when running a web server in development.

Duane
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* NEW: Topics can have a reply to setting that overrides the group's reply
to (and any associated hash tags).

How can you set a topic in this way?
If I click on New Topic, I don't see any way to change the Reply to setting.

Best,
Marina

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 06:28 AM, Marina wrote:

How can you set a topic in this way?
If I click on New Topic, I don't see any way to change the Reply to setting.

Marina -- As best I can tell, you have to create the topic first. At that point you can change the reply-to setting for the topic via the More menu...and even then, only from Topics view.

Of course, at that point the initial message has already gone out...with the wrong reply options in the footer. See on this.

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Bruce?
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On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 06:28 AM, Marina wrote:

How can you set a topic in this way?
If I click on New Topic, I don't see any way to change the Reply to setting.

Marina -- On further thought...

...I believe Mark's intent is that owners and moderators would establish a set of hashtags with various reply-to override settings, as appropriate for their group. Subscribers could then "lock in" the reply options for topics they initiate by use of the hashtag, which Mods and Owners could subsequently override via the More menu pull-down.?
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To test the notion, I've created a "ReplyToSender" hashtag for my subscribers on a trial basis. I doubt it will get very much use, but we'll see. I want my group to be a community, and if it gets too much use I'll delete it.

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Received from dgrass1@... at 10/22/2018 08:56 PM UTC:

Personally, I think this hashtag concept for an email group, is overly complicated for older generations of computer users.

I think the curent hashtag options plus pending requests, if all implemented, go well beyond anything I'm interested in, BUT... if it's true that it's too complicated for older subscribers, then group owners who require hash tags to be used... especially the more complicated aspects of them... will hear complaints about it from their older subscribers. And in the groups that don't require their use it really doesn't matter how complicated they are. Seems like a problem that will be solved by simply letting the "marketplace" decide.

Jim H

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I agree. I am of the older generation and so are most of the members in my groups. Hashtags go way over my head. ? Since I don't use them in my groups, it doesn't matter how complicated they are except when I?members sees them because of the calendar etc and ask about them. I have no clue no matter how much I read here what it means and how they operate. Ilene? ? ? ? ?

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 05:48 PM, <dgrass1@...> wrote:

Personally, I think this hashtag concept for an email group, is overly complicated for older generations of computer users.

For those who have grown up with Twitter, hashtags are all but indispensable. I am not one of those people, and I'm proud of the fact that I've never sent (or received) a tweet.

At the same time, some of the more esoteric functions of groups.io simply do not work without hashtags.

With the proper group settings, it is possible to disable hashtags entirely. As long as both extremes are still available to us, I'm trying my best to tolerate them. :-)
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On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 01:58 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

For those who have grown up with Twitter, hashtags are all but indispensable.
I am not one of those people, and I'm proud of the fact that I've never sent
(or received) a tweet.

Although my group has a Twitter page as well (just for announcements), I am not particurlarly keen on hashtags, but I must admit that the Groups.io hashtags system was a grand step forward.
On YG we had a set of fixed "tags" which members were asked to use in their objects and we usually spent a lot of time correcting mistakes. Now we have a small, fixed set of mandatory hashtags, members can choose the appropriate one when posting and everyone is happy.

...I believe Mark's intent is that owners and moderators would establish a set of hashtags with various reply-to override settings, as appropriate for their group. Subscribers could then "lock in" the reply options for topics they initiate by use of the hashtag, which Mods and Owners could subsequently override via the More menu pull-down. <

Oh, this is really too complicated. Group.io is reaching heights of refinement which are beyond my capabilities.
Thank you for your explanation, though.

Best,
Marina

Received from Bruce Bowman at 10/22/2018 11:58 PM UTC:

With the proper group settings, it is possible to disable hashtags entirely. As long as both extremes are still available to us, I'm trying my best to tolerate them. :-)

That's my take on it.

Using a new car as an analogy, I don't need to fully understand all the details of every system setting and option in order to drive my new car home from the dealer... or to the grocery store and back... or even across the country and back.

But if my new car kills the engine every 30 days until I contact the dealer for a link to restart it, that's another matter. ;-)

Jim H

Jim wrote:

But if my new car kills the engine every 30 days until I contact the
dealer for a link to restart it, that's another matter. ;-)

I've split this conversation out into its own topic:

"Automatic logout 30-days after login"
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/27769196

Shal


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