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For one of my groups, most of the files we upload are either minutes of meetings or officer reports.? When I go to, for example, the minutes folder, the files are all in alphabetical order.? Since the files are named things like "August 2018 General Meeting Minutes", this means that the minutes for every April for all years comes first, then the August one and so on.

Not so useful.

Is it possible to set the default sort order for a directory to uploaded descending (most recent at the top)?

Best,

Glenn


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You can change it, but it's not remembered.? Remembering the default (last used) for each user has been brought up on the beta group several times.? I believe it's on the todo list.

Duane
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

Is it possible to set the default sort order for a directory to uploaded descending (most recent at the top)?

The sort order can be changed as needed by clicking on the column headers. As Duane mentioned, some way to "remember" this has been suggested a few times, with no clear consensus being reached on how it would be done. Is *forcing* subscribers to see the files in a certain way really a desirable thing? Is this a group setting or a subscriber setting? If the latter, should it be stored in the subscriber record, or as a browser cookie?

And so on. I suspect resolution remains a long way off.

As a work-around, I suggest that you come up with a file naming convention so the files are initially displayed the way you want. Something like "2018-08 Meeting Minutes" might suffice.
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Bruce
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

Is it possible to set the default sort order for a directory to uploaded descending (most recent at the top)?

The sort order can be changed as needed by clicking on the column headers. As Duane mentioned, some way to "remember" this has been suggested a few times, with no clear consensus being reached on how it would be done. Is *forcing* subscribers to see the files in a certain way really a desirable thing? Is this a group setting or a subscriber setting? If the latter, should it be stored in the subscriber record, or as a browser cookie?

And so on. I suspect resolution remains a long way off.

As a work-around, I suggest that you come up with a file naming convention so the files are initially displayed the way you want. Something like "2018-08 Meeting Minutes" might suffice.
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Regards,
Bruce

In my view, it would be a per user setting overrideable per directory by the admin. I can also understand where that would require significant work.? I think the forcing question is a non-issue because allowing the admin to set it is not the same thing as requiring the admin to set it and so it is left to each group's admins to decide what is best for their group.

I did consider the renaming thing, but balked a bit a renaming hundreds of files.? Some rainy day perhaps.

Best,

Glenn


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I did consider the renaming thing, but balked a bit a renaming hundreds of files. Some rainy day perhaps.

Whether you rename or not, if you change now to YYYY.MM.DD at least the sort will going forward.

I did consider the renaming thing, but balked a bit a renaming hundreds of files.  Some rainy day perhaps.

Whether you rename or not, if you change now to YYYY.MM.DD at least the sort will going forward.

Oh, that's an excellent point, Michael.

Best,

Glenn


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On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 07:37 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:

Whether you rename or not, if you change now to YYYY.MM.DD at least the sort will going forward.

I strongly suspect that something of that sort (pun unavoidable!) is by far the best option. If (for example) Mark organised things so that the months of the year remained in the correct order that might satisfy Glenn's original point but it would start to fall down for those who need to archive weekly meetings. The months might remain correctly ordered but a different sort process would be required to keep the (weekly) dates in the correct order thereafter.

Although it can be a frustrating process I prefer the concept of "how can achieve what I require with the tools that are currently available to me?" In this case I think I would have arrived at Michael's suggestion. Yes it requires some work to rename / reorder already - stored material but IMHO that is something that goes with the territory of being a Group Owner or Moderator.

Some months ago I got a headache trying to find a way of making sense of the Photo Archive for the Group I moderate. Yes it required a lot of work (OK; I'm retired so finding the time wasn't all that hard) but the end result justified the prior thinking and subsequent effort. Which reminds me of something I was going to request of Mark... for the first page of "Photos" to be a blank sheet that can be written by Moderators only but read by all subscribers) to set up an index of all the Albums contained therein, complete with links to the albums themselves.

Chris